Tournament: AMC season 4

awesome job core teams!!! keep doing

 

(ramsheart) true team vs (waytrel) варуйубегай

numbers of deaths: 12 - not important
match duration: 9:30.000 ( 570 seconds )
death ratio: 47,500 - not important

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(ramsheart) true team vs (core) qqc

numbers of deaths: 2 - 10
match duration: 2:30.000 ( 150 seconds )
death ratio: 75,000 - 15,000

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(core) qqc vs vs (waytrel) варуйубегай

numbers of deaths: 11 - not important
match duration: 19:33.000 ( 1173 seconds )
death ratio: 106,636 - not important

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overall:

(core) qqc
nod:21
matches duration:1323s
death ratio: 63,00000

(ramsheart) true team
nod:14
matches duration:720s
death ratio:51,42857



according to my results: sepsa pt died 1 time per 63s, trueblade pt died 1 time per 51s.
so, im surprised, but i guess sepsa will go to r rank.
anyway, we will see tomorrow official results. stay tuned and pray for sepsa

timer in video is wrong in every qqc match. their 1st match is delayed by 10s +-, 2 nd match was interrupted earlier, but their enemies manage to ress. i counted from "start" till "finish".

 

such dedication...

 

previous group we were supposed to be 1st and we finished 2nd....
unfortunately i guess this time will be the same 'cause no bonus for being russians

 

sorry, but your results are not correct. correct formula: ((deaths1/time1)+(deaths2/time2))/2.
and if your data is correct, then:
true team: ((12/570)+(2/150))/2 = 0,017 deaths per second
qqc: ((10/150)+(11/1173))/2 = 0,037 deaths per second.
qqc died often than true team.

 

than from logical side is your opinion wrong. its not logical, u know. bcs qqc was fighting 1323 seconds and died 21 times. true team was fighting 720 seconds and died 14 times.

so

is incorrect. but yes i admiting, you can be right. i dont know exactly what "average detah ratio" means....

 

the details can change depending on the situation, i've never seen them post their calculations this season. :d
suddenly average death count per minute changes to averaged death count per minute per match!

 

my formula is correct and has been used for 4 seasons without changes. and it is logical! in 1 fight qqc die very often (0,066 deaths per second), in 2 fight - very rarely (0,009 deaths per second). on average, anyway often ((0,066+0,009)/2 = 0,037).

you can't sum up time and death of 2-fights. we need to find average. and incorrect time divide at death, we are looking death per second, but not vice versa.

sorry for my english)

 

so qqc died avrage 0,037 times per seconds. but u know, its not true, because they died 0,016 times per seconds.
but now when i see formula, u should define rules more exact, bcs now is just nonsense and imagine nonsense situation.

1st match: u will die 7 times in 1 second.
2nd match: u will stay alive for 1200 seconds ( 20 minutes )
when we will apply amc formula, what it mean?

((7/1) + (0/1200))/2 = 3,5 deaths per seconds. so yes, u died 3,5 times every seconds. nice formulas u using, no offense

 

too much math @.@. confused :s welcome to our forums, alioth! (wave)

 

ylogy formula is good, remember they count deaths per minute no seconds

 

no, no. we write in seconds now, but anyway its not important. difference between numbers will be same.

and both formulas are good. this discussion is just about, what formula is "better". also second fact, this is just discussion, because formula is define and using. it will not be changed in this season for sure. maybe in next season, maybe.

3rd most important fact is qqc will not qualify for rank r. i dont think i counted it wrong..

 

i still think they should change this in the rules. it would be so much less work and dramas, if after rank a in this situations there are rematches... like for all. not to ask the teams: hey, guys, are you up for rematch? whoever is not up, can not show up and will have tech lose... asking teams if they want or not is just weird (my opinion ofc)...

 

we should just w8 for official info

 

i understand your resentment. but ... 7 deaths per second! this is a terrible ratio, and even if at the 2nd fight, all is well, average anyway a bad result. you've got to understand.

hi, tnx) w8 screenshot where you pk troy :d

 

w8ing for the official results first

 

it's not important. seconds, minutes... difference is only in constant, it has no effect on result.

earlier (non-ranked, d rank) rematch used only if it was necessary. starting with a rank rematch is used where possible. that is, when there is time and the teams are ready.

 

once the participants agreed to be a part of this tournament, they should follow the rules there. if there is a rule for rematches, they should follow it, isn't that right? (not that this is the rules, but i m talking in theory). what means if teams are ready? they are showing up, they are asked if they can participate on rematch, they answer, means they are ready... how more ready they can be? i realize there are time difference etc., but the matches a rank + are not that many, and not all are 20 minutes... what are the pluses? less work for referees (they are not need to watch matches, calculate, take responsability, if there are any mistakes). less nerves crash for players (better finish all fast, than wait in agony next couple of days for results). more fun for watchers (we are really having a lot of fun watching those matches).
minuses: more work for commentators (haha ). the participants have to wait little longer till the matches finish, but the payoff is a good thing. referees have to stay little longer, but they ll lose less time than all this count/calculations thingy.
edit: also in the existing rules, there is one point: 9. 7 if tournament matches are held after 08.00 p.m. gmt+0 (12.00 p.m moscow time), at the discretion of the organizers the rest of the fights might be moved to the supplementary tournament day.
if the organizer make those rematches a "must" thingy, the point about the time would not be valid as they have in the rules right to continue in the next day. and whoever still want to fight for amc rank, will show up...

 

rematch is good choice for qqc, bcs they will be 2nd and eliminate. but why should true team agree with it and "be ready". they can just loose. if i should be a member of true team, for sure ill not agree with rematch.

to aliothamc: yes, i understand it. and after all, yes your current formula is better than mine. its more fair.

 

yes, you're right. if true team could not spend a rematch yesterday, judge could appoint a rematch in the supplementary tournament day. but probably judges decided that fights had already shown who is the best and rematch is not required. the supplementary tournament day is only used in case of emergency.