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Experiment 41 Othell's STR and DEX

Discussion in 'Archived experiments' started by Tully, Oct 2, 2013.

  1. Tully

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    tags: [skills] [stats]

    yul archer’s tested, who is next
    to verify how much will dex
    affect his critical attack?
    meet othell rogue, he’s here to rock!​




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    purpose: to find out how str and dex affect the damage from othell adventurer's skills.

    attacker: othell advunturer lvl 99, no buffs, equipped with [​IMG] assassin type / light eternal leather set and [​IMG] focus amaranthine shaper

    target: othell advunturer lvl 99, no buffs, equipped with [​IMG] assassin type / light eternal leather set and [​IMG] focus amaranthine shaper

    experiment: we will carry out 2 tests: in the first one we will test the increase in dex with the pitch of 5 points, in the second test - the same for str. the first values (58 for dex and 101 for str) are the initial values for equipped char. the attacker will be placed behind the target and use attack it with the following skills:

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    [​IMG]blood stab[​IMG]heart beraker[​IMG]chain blow[​IMG]reverse
    the results of the tests can be found in the tables below.

    test 1 (dex)

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    test 2 (str)

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    conclusion: as you can see the increase in dex didn't affect the damage from skills at all while the increase in str increased damage from othell's skills.
     
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  2. thunder1989

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    mega lol, in lindvior it supose to do it and, why ppl in the forum say that they have tryed it and dex increase blows damage in pvp?
     
  3. Vonak

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    dex = blow land rate. so +dex = +blow landed = better dps
     
  4. DeadlyIllusion

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    40str increase dmg by about 3% ? worth it
     
  5. SnoWyz

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    dex is better for double damage, no?
     
  6. syzgod

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    there was a discussion about it before. don't put str go for max dex!
     
  7. thunder1989

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    in lindvior dex should increase the blow damage,¿is this a bug?
     
  8. orbi_

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    with max dex you will hit more often for double dmg
    example :
    str - 10k, 10k, 10k, 20k, 10k, 10k, 10k, 20k, 10k, 10k = 120k dmg
    dex - 10k, 20k, 10k, 20k, 10k, 20k, 10k, 20k, 10k, 10k = 140k dmg
     
  9. xHaseo

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    not so simple , since we can even crits for more than that , if the base damage is 10k , an othell can even reach criticals for 40-50k

    str = critical power (but looks pretty low) and skill mastery
    dex = critical blow chance and blow rate (but i don't think it works nowdays)

    so it's up to you how you wanna play : maximize your critical chance with a blow or maximize your skill mastery?
     
  10. orbi_

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    mg it was only example frequency of double crits ( dmg by skills )...nothing more
     
  11. thunder1989

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    tully . i think it is a bug becasue in lindvior patch notes it said that dex increase blow damage, it doesnt said nothing about dobles critical or land rate,it understand that it is normal blow damage but, ¿who can confirm it? doubles critical doesn't existed in god? were they influenced by dex?
     
  12. Tully

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    there is no information about the correlation between stat's and othell's skill damage. could you give me a link to the post with this info?
     
  13. thunder1989

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  14. Yunalesca

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    this is a fan site, these are not patch notes, they are preliminary thoughts and ideas that were posted months before lindvior came out.

    you should read the oficial patch notes presented by innova.

    fan sites are untrustable without source or real translator (aka real person who knows korean), so they should never be taken as source for 100% correct information.
     
  15. NemesysX

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    regardless of dmg output, dex always gave accuracy and evasion, also provides more often critical skill rate due to othels passive skill, p.atk offers close to nothing to your blows, who cares about yr crit damage if you crit once per month.
    we run huge tests in both pts and live, there was not even 1 occasion that str won vs dex .
    as well as the fact that skill power bonus does not work on blow type skills.
    that was just a bonus tips for all ya nubs with master rage skill from dual class on othels.
     
  16. AnotherVictoryOfHB

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    +1
    except some say oly build othell is better with str cuz of the higher chance of reset/double skill time .
    i think there should be balance cuz we r not playing only mass pvp or oly . id go for +10 dex dyes , +5 str dyes , +3 dex hat .
     
  17. NemesysX

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    next update, cb oly = 3 weeks, open oly = 1 week, gl w/o +15 dex in cb
     
  18. itherus

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    first of all dex affect on skill crit sience tauti chronicle not linvidor, str gives u **** not dmg for blows, str bulid is for olympiad and its much more better then dex coz of skill mastery or double duration. dex does not give you chance to hit from blows sience c4 or interlude this was a specyfic racial formula...
     
  19. Alarion

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    some sources plz ******, cause i,ve heard only so far:

    1st week = cb
    2-4th weeks - open
     
  20. KSERW

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    oly in epeiodion = 1st week =cb
    2-5th weeks= open

    30 macher per week ( not 50 like now).