1. Discord Support team Facebook l2central.info

[Core] Hax Valakas 15.01.2014

Discussion in 'Archive 2.0' started by Hax, Jan 17, 2014.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Hax

    Hax User

    Joined:
    24.11.11
    Messages:
    4,883
    Likes Received:
    841
    pov: aeore cardinal 99
    duration: 16:20 min.
    party:
    eternalize - 99 aeore cardinal
    kaworu - 98 aeore shillien saint
    ddos - 99 iss hierophant
    ireflect - 99 sigel shillien templer
    clockwork - 99 yul trickster
    bugaimer - 99 yul trickster
    m2s - 99 yul trickster



    tracklist:
    {tr}{tr}{tr}{tr}{/tr}{/tr}{/tr}{/tr}
    dead kennedystoo drunk to ****urbansteprainextreme musicthis is for the fallendevicewish

    fights in order of appearance:
    valakas - several rushes

    notes:
    - i put nearly every rush in this fraps
    - no ++pvp set on me, still too strong
    - mastercard cp worth 80k euro
    - we got valakas at the end
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 5, 2015
  2. Zairakh

    Zairakh User

    Joined:
    02.12.11
    Messages:
    631
    Likes Received:
    49
    3+1 heals 3 archers setup.
    stronk.
     
  3. Hax

    Hax User

    Joined:
    24.11.11
    Messages:
    4,883
    Likes Received:
    841
    i count as 3 healers, shaon as half maybe, so yes i agree :d
    normally bugaimer goes mage on mass pvp but was good like this too :d
     
  4. Zairakh

    Zairakh User

    Joined:
    02.12.11
    Messages:
    631
    Likes Received:
    49
    is just my nostalgic impression or just the game has been dumbed down even more with this latests updates?
    i mean,yea,dps-wise setup is cool and with 3 heals you might not need to have somebody with tank function but still im used to remember the times in which l2 would focus around having more necessary classes to be effective in pvp (bd-sws-cardi-ee/se various dd's based on what the party's goal was...),not going around and pvp'ing with half healers and half archers party. :d

    ---

    edit: nevermind there's shillien templar in group.
    in other fraps you made your group didn't had tank,tho so i mislead....
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 17, 2014
  5. Hax

    Hax User

    Joined:
    24.11.11
    Messages:
    4,883
    Likes Received:
    841
    usually i always pvp only with 2 healers or alone.
    but if a dd or so is missing i usually never take clan dd's for simple reason, better to have 3 healers or 2 tanks or 2nd rhapsody
     
    kapznnickwtp65 likes this.
  6. Ultimated

    Ultimated User

    Joined:
    03.04.12
    Messages:
    335
    Likes Received:
    198
    cool last song.
     
  7. Alixyz

    Alixyz User

    Joined:
    29.06.13
    Messages:
    193
    Likes Received:
    37
    took my reply with master card team and made it your cp name/signature, now "that escalated quickly" xd
     
    Hax likes this.
  8. KSERW

    KSERW User

    Joined:
    26.03.13
    Messages:
    1,135
    Likes Received:
    377
    plz post fraps from other antharas valakas.

    oops i forgot. like this one, you stayed carpet mode for 234123412341234123412341235123512835`283476192354192835491235491253649123654912853649126341276401236401263401623047162034 hours and after

    123412341234132412341`234`1234`123`12323542345204356203756023475 crp to bs you managed to enter.

    plz give us these fraps also.
     
    Joumskamblolo likes this.
  9. Hax

    Hax User

    Joined:
    24.11.11
    Messages:
    4,883
    Likes Received:
    841
    ? i included all rushes except 1 where we rushed from heart to bs w/o ba and died.
     
  10. yLogy

    yLogy User

    Joined:
    07.12.11
    Messages:
    2,985
    Likes Received:
    861
    and u are so mad why? because u were kiting for 20 hours...
     
    ReewOxize likes this.
  11. Yunalesca

    Yunalesca User

    Joined:
    31.12.12
    Messages:
    1,429
    Likes Received:
    534
    the game has been dumbed down to range+ iss, and on mass pvp iss is not so relevant due to the purges and lack of range.could simply go 3 healers for perma purge and 4 archers on mass pvp with ol buffs + harmony from w/e and the eficiency is absolutely better. a iss with mystic immunity however, does contribute much better than br iss for mass pvp(if only 2 heals).
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 18, 2014
  12. sleepers

    sleepers User

    Joined:
    29.11.11
    Messages:
    816
    Likes Received:
    426
    mages are doing way more damage and are also better in terms of utility though
     
    Hax likes this.
  13. yLogy

    yLogy User

    Joined:
    07.12.11
    Messages:
    2,985
    Likes Received:
    861
    mage is hard to play, that's why archers are more popular.
     
  14. sleepers

    sleepers User

    Joined:
    29.11.11
    Messages:
    816
    Likes Received:
    426
    mages are way easier to play properly than archers atm. a stacked mage is just stupid, any handless random can be a god with it.
     
    iuuwnxUF and VewNeetecebop like this.
  15. yLogy

    yLogy User

    Joined:
    07.12.11
    Messages:
    2,985
    Likes Received:
    861
    define propeply then :d mages has twice less time to react. that's why 95 % of mages are carpets.
     
    ReewOxize likes this.
  16. KSERW

    KSERW User

    Joined:
    26.03.13
    Messages:
    1,135
    Likes Received:
    377
    mage easier to play than archer? lol. just lol.
     
    Schofield and ReewOxize like this.
  17. sleepers

    sleepers User

    Joined:
    29.11.11
    Messages:
    816
    Likes Received:
    426
    mage used to be hard to play until tauti, when there were noble cancels and you were 1 shot on rhapsos. now its just ridiculously easy. not to mention that a stacked mage with pvp set and hero staff is just unkillable and will be doing insane ammounts of damage even if you are terrible and all you can do is using both aoes. also, if healers can't cleanse properly, the problem is not the mages being weak. their survival skills are already good and will be even better on the next update. it's kinda ridiculous actually.


    not easier. way easier.

    maybe you got my point wrong. it is probably easier to play archer on exacutrix level or like selenia level, but then you are just bad and not playing properly at all. i wouldn't expect you to understand what "playing properly" means though, so i'll just let it go without wasting too much of my time trying to explain it.
     
  18. Alarion

    Alarion User

    Joined:
    16.12.11
    Messages:
    1,675
    Likes Received:
    231
    i will not agree with u gustavo. nuker except ew. kfc with temporary ud boost has nothing except crystal form. jumps? b** plz, any enemy dd has counter for jum, like rush / shadow step/ jump from archer / warrior, pull from tank etc. anyway he use robe, so we know light >> robe (dont compare pvp robe with standard light).

    archer has flash every ~~20-30 sec, amazing strong ue (oe on time), hide, clone, jumps. dont look on amethyst cause he is stacked (or sepsa). compare with other archers stacked on similar lvl (dont mention gruzzi cause u know how handless he and his cp is).
     
    MNQS89 likes this.
  19. sleepers

    sleepers User

    Joined:
    29.11.11
    Messages:
    816
    Likes Received:
    426
    except mages, unlike archers, are actually doing damage and have good utility in pvp. this chronicle already destroyed archers because of elixirs and the next one with the pdef boosts will be even worse. archers can survive but they are still doing no damage, compared to mages.

    and just no in general. as archer, your obligatory debuff to do damage is on a high cooldown and even removes itself sometimes, randomly. your best aoe only works on people that are on the same terrain level as you are. it is way easier for most classes to stack pdef instead of mdef.

    as mage, if you just snare on cooldown on a mass pvp and do nothing else you are already doing a bigger impact on the pvp than 95% of the archers on this server.

    i have an archer and a mage, i was a top mage player when it actually was hard to play the class. i played it again the other day and its actually quite silly how snare is landing now, compared to the landrate it had before. you just pop your cds, snare, if you get attacked you use crystal form (that has low cd and will buy u time to get cleansed/get some immunity) and actually the jumps are insanely good if you know how to use them. done.

    you prolly take it for granted because you have so many mages in clan, but atm its kinda silly, who has more mages (especially mage heroes) just wins.
     
  20. yLogy

    yLogy User

    Joined:
    07.12.11
    Messages:
    2,985
    Likes Received:
    861
    mage is op, i agree. but u need hands for him and equip for 20 bilions. otherwise mage is carpet. u can see on tournament, hell was dead for 4 minutes ... just epic.
    u have less seconds to react, because u are very squishy. about dmg, lets say grave dmg to amethyst is 5 times stronger than opposite. blinking is also not so easy. u need to watch a position of your healers, not blinking randomly to gludio...

    as archer, everything is slower, tausends of surviveability skills. that's the important for decide, what is harder to play. slower, u don't need so fast reactions and hands...

    mage better dd, but harder to play. about mass pvo, actually no sense. we don't discuss who is better dd, for sure in mass pvp mage, no discuss. skill and difficulty can be seen in small pvps.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 18, 2014
    KSERW likes this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.