it's not about arrogant people it's about geared squad who can decide moments where you need this cp . grave can be what ever person , buy you cant change the thing he have geared squad with some potential to kill cp's i'm not pointing how his cp is pvping or fighting and what kind of skill do they have . each decision is having risks and elronia is aware about them . still better to have this group in clan as fight them
no matter how good you are when you are confronted by twice the numbers, you will lose; it's simple math. the real value of a clan can be judged only clan vs clan. although there is no way to convince you of your ignorance, for this is a victory for you and this euphoric state will last for a while. this is not something achieved by you alone, you were just a part of the force that attacked us, again with most damage and hard work done by bs. and again, don't tell me that you were there for fun or whatever reasons your leadership feeds you, because that was a coordinated attack, bs and rg attacking from different directions and staying out of each other's aoe, and then again concentrating on the crester's party when we attempted to take it back. i will not complain about the numbers, as i said before diplomacy is part of the game and it was well used by bs. i am here just to put you in your place: as a stand alone entity, you are weak; as a stand alone clan, you are below bs or ba. whatever clans team up in this equation the one standing alone will lose. as bs lost against ba + rg and as now ba lost against bs + rg. ba remain the same, as do bs: stand alone powerfull clans with the ability to fight each other on equal terms. the only variable here is rg, that can choose to fight for one side or the other, changing with the wind. we have a word for those kind of people in real life, we call them "women that sleep with everyone" or "women that jump from bed to bed"!
i did not get it seriously. as ba member i can only say, we had fun. i think you heard this from lot of ppl from ba. we said it even here and now you start actually with all those fairytales and stories from the past. can't you just accept we had fun and we did good job as clan even if we lost aden? do you think we wont try take what we want back? go fight in game, there is place to show your skill, not here.
hnofs, my friend, is that you ? we saw how long your ally lasted last night on giran. we had ~7 parties there and your clan + laonda didn't last longer than 5 minutes. pvp ( read camping ) on parna is all you can do.
learn to read signs maybe. we had 2 parties there and maybe 1 laonda. but for sure you can't count it's not new. even with that 5 mins. you can see these stuffs in our siege movie. camping parna? you serious, if you don't have gruzzi cp and maximo you'll never leave town. probably you still camping ch.
elronia, keep your comments about "ba helping us" in the heads of your clan members but not in public forums. we have same wars/ attitude with ba like with any war clan arround. never helped any of my wars. personally ba/rg same story just 1st are kinda harder in pvp. about siege. gz bs. sadly my clan are not ready for aden/rune sieges but i heard it was owesome fight. severance had 625/130~ ss vs rg,7s, castigadores. p.s. lawled about elronias "god mode" and calling people "son". /happy new year guys.
my cp m8s just asked me to read topic more carefully and what i saw?.. wow. elronia, frand. i sended 2cp's at giran + it was some laondas and we wipe you guys there at 1st rush+ some pplz at gorgon not talking about rushes at oren where you managed to take 20% of doors and gave us like +100~.
no there is no such thing as "we had fun". be honest. most of your clan, my clan, or redguards wouldn't like it at all if they were in your position and lost aden. i didn't have fun when we lost aden from ba and rg. no. it hurted. now talking about the rest may i have the attention of you people please because some randomz (hue hue hue) declared me forum warrior of the year? ok. so. i 'll try to put myself in the brains of 3 people that are all equally brainwashed equal level of intelligence against their wars and show how they think about the siege. then i 'll try to apply logic in each one of them. be warned the 3 guys following are picked up personalities that are being most commonly seen in these 3 clans. i am realistic with what i will write. all characters appearing in this work are fictitious. any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental. number 1. the blackswans member. (aka less ****s given ever guy) his view : for this guy blackswans took the castle with a little help from redguards. we won ba and we took what we deserved. but even if we didn't, "who the **** cares, we can try next time, lets go baylor". applying logic : you stupid idiot if you think you took castle and you won ba you are as braindamaged as they say you are. your clan lately is slower in regrouping and in following orders than any other clan around. is it because of lack of english or lack of brain processor i cannot tell. but it is there. most of the clan lately cares only about their own *****, which is not even considered to be into pvp stuff at all. baylors, kartias, zakens. that's what you care all about nothing else. you jump on parnasus without buffs knowing enemy is there and you just feed. then you cry on clan chat nobody cares. no nobody cares because 65% of them is like you 20% is afk and 15% wants to help but is busy or cannot kill the ones that killed you so they don't port to give poisonbg or ownedbyjik or equal idiots the only pleasure they have in this game. you are being possesed by a lazy spirit that makes you unable to even think properly. number 2. the blackangels member. (aka... hate hate hate hate mada*****) his view : ********ing blacksweins took the mother****ing aden only because of these ****ing trashes radguards and nothing more. we are the best of the best of the gods that made gods and we we hold castle for 1 and a half hour alone and and and we win and we best and **** you all and you will pay it with the blood of your ancestors and **** off ******s. before applying logic in that guy we must apply tranquilizer dart on his head. then wait 1-2 mins. if he is calmed down then apply logic if not then apply another dart on his e-penis, then apply logic. applying logic : bro, broooo... broooo. youdabest we know k? but let's face why. just imagine the the guys i 'm gonna put next are gone from the server the same moment along with their items. never existed never will exist. poisonbg, ireflect, ownedbyjik, sprtcs, skizzik, riordian, gravedigger, hax, bugaimer. poof. gone ok? gooone. ok so. where do you think your clan would be w/o these? nowhere. would you hold aden w/o poison party sprtcs and skizzik as individuals? even only against bs? no bro you wouldn't and you know that your clan is what it is because of the biggest ammount of top parties. these top parties are making the difference in this so called mass pvp. nothing more nothing else. was not any big secret ever. and this difference is unfortunately i must admit because the people (not all tho xd) mentioned above have some skills besides gear. uber donoring or farming made these guys unkillable by normal people even if they are 1vs 7 sometimes. realise tho that is your mouth and their mouth that destroyed your already stupid "public relations" with redguard. simple as that. ah small p.s. i wanna mention since some months : funny thing when bs were top pvp clan you were crying about alarion's so called bots etc and now you have ireflect in clan the guy that botted/ebayed/scripted his brains out as on any other server and you still keep him in clan (if any ba or ex ba member can comment anything here i would be grateful :d ) last but not least. number 3. the redguard member. (the proudful guy) his view : was so pissed already by the treat they had from ba that eventually made him agree proudfully to cooperate on this siege to let blackswans take aden as a payback to blackangels. they deserve it for their unacceptable arrogance towards us. applying logic: ez. good job because i would do exactly the same in your leader's position. but. yes bro you did very well for breaking this ally with ba but you did late for me. at some point you should blame yourself for what ba is right now. why? because the jewels the items and everything they got non donated was won with your help. your help was tho an emergency solution if you remember when bs was this notorious zerg of the armies of mordor 1 year ago. you did very well back then if you did not want the server to die. all cool. but. you did not realise that after bs finally did "fall" you stayed best friends with ba. why? because it was comfy. items flowing like gold between your arms, auctions every now and then. you forgot ba was getting stuff too huh? you forgot ba item sharing was not dkp based? you forgot that in ba strongest parties just get stronger? you forgot the stupid "fight for the spot gainak rules" that also supports the strongest guys? that's why ba became what they are. because you feeded them good. because all they are is 70% done by co-operation with you. you realised it too late tho. you were pushing hard an already weak enemy and creating a new stronger one slowly. this is what you did. and unfortunately if we want to be honest you do not have the firepower to stand clan vs clan against them only because of lack of donors and farmers. this is the problem with your clan. be proud of your clan yes because you are the most stable clan on the server but also try to develop and think forward not only the present. now have fun flaming my minions! for me what is said above is being said by being just a watcher of the server not a blackswans member.
eh ... i was speaking for myself. as i said, it's just game. i seriously do not know why you make so much drama around it and try put some words in our mouth when we/i do not feel it on this way. so trust me or not, i had fun. for sure i will have even more fun on next sieges. and please stop speaking about rg like this. it's not like they got nothing from dragons.
[2014-12-19 0008] kengaa: time to take aden? [2014-12-19 0002] defricz: i want aden or rune [2014-12-19 0012] kengaa: i will use bssr next siege [2014-12-19 0038] defricz: spoko wts book of lineage2.
of course, severance is way stronger clan than rg, and you won us with minimum effort, ***** us at oren, giran and everywhere you met us. good job, sorry for even typing here, going back to ch. p.s. i watched the video. amazing pvp skills, we will never reach you.
when the words ends- starts trolling. you should try to find yourself in circus elronia. i am almost sure it would be success. p.s. there is no need in your comments towards my clan we know what we can/cant do. but is funny to read how you claim yourself as an overmind of core. xd
turn down for what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 we want respect. but your clan did tarshtalk. some trash talk from nowhere. and if you check your math better there weren't more than 21-28(and with some ppl with bad internet couldn't move). when you understand that what ****ed ba was your arrogant members with big wallet and we had to show them that they aren't that strong. nothing against u, tinary, but i ask you to do not transform into them. numbers werent twice.
almost as funny as reading how you wiped us at giran. if you really wiped us, we wouldn't be holding the castle with an alt clan, would we ? and oren attack was just dust in your eyes, we didn't go there to break your doors or crest your castle, we just needed to free giran so we can move to more important locations, and you happily followed where we led you, not leaving even a single person behind. for a pvp clan, your lack of strategy on the siege fields is amazing. p.s. i am in a circus for sure. and the show is amazing atm
don't try to find excuses for what you did, you allied to bs because you knew that if bs would have failed on us they would have turned their forces on rune. if you can't handle trashtalk there is plenty of rg that are used to trashtalk also but everything is beautiful , the clan is perfect and cleaned. your behavior mostly made some people from ba trashed you. so please stop trying to be the saints , you're not as we are not but the difference is that we dont claim to be !
you have serious issues. we went to giran to pvp nothing else. we were looking for pvp during the siege probably that's what a pvp clan do but you don't have a clue as a pve leader so i won't explain it to you. but you are the big almighty guy with god's strategy so you led us everywhere where we appeared. we appreciate that. i'll stop talking to you i feel that your level is too far that where i don't want to be.
i am almost lost, help me braw, giran was important or wasn't? bcoz once you use it as an excuse of not important pvp zone & other time you are saying about luring us somewhere from it. give me advice from the master of da game. giran was the same important for you as for me. actually you had twice more people there then i do. so /next excuse plx. and last thing. i feel pity for that parties you sedned to "so not important clan as my" just to feed our crp abit. but i am thankfull anyway for your lineage lesson of siege strategy. p.s. the show is amazing only bcoz you are there as clown :*
and you came to rune two weeks ago, not to save us, but to stop bs from cresting it with box. because if i did allow that to happen, you knew we will come aden full force from minute 1 of the siege, without friendly fire with bs. in both cases, results are the same.
so it begins. all bow to elronia and ask for advice, permission. maybe he will allow you to take any castle... oh my gosh.
actually i think that would have been easier if you lost rune 2 weeks ago. i'm not sure what would have happen but for sure , i'd rather take full force from rg than bs+rg. no offence but i fear more bs than rg. and actually you had no power in what happened in rune because if i remind it clearly you even did bsoe from your castle.. rg isn't able to face bs or ba as clan vs clan even if bs members thinks their clan isn't well prepared.
