i liek tyrr in pve. ofc you can, just have to use your brain. lindvior they had 1 archer and 2 mages. dual dagger class cuz of pve. so, nothing right except the 3 healer cry.
m2s and clockwork arent both archers? https://4gameforum.com/showthread.php?t=25166 https://4gameforum.com/showthread.php?t=27431
in theyer start, they had pony as mage, and bugaimer was playing mage. when cw came, m2s changed to mage.
my point maintains, many of their pvp videos, not bothered to link them all, had 2 archers in pt, then had more mages in pt. which brings us to the initial point of all the conversation so far. i know what sleepers will say if he writes. well be on circles forever, no point to even do that, so , to me, as long as players do not show they can play with classes that "can" make the diference according to them(wynn,tyrr,tank), and still play the classes that only the devs benefit(nuker/dagger currently, archer on previous update) there is nothing from them to proove to me or anyone else, as long as they wont be rocking on those classes when they have the least favouritism by both players and devs. i dont diminuish their ability to play, which they do to me, cause..that's the only ability to communicate there seems to be..
well i played archer on a siege on this chronicle and we still wiped alarion's party in 30 seconds, there was even a mighty video somewhere on this forum! i made the mage mostly for pve actually, since my elf mage had some issues. i always planned on going back to archer but now with the recent events it's kinda hard, sadly. and about 3 healers... trust me, we only had 3 healers because nerven left our cp and we invited someone who was a friend (blair). the same happened when shaon left and we got lacie (she wanted to play healer for quite some time). -- and by the way: blackangels cp lf active lvl 99 summoner, you don't have to be stacked. pm he4uctblu/eternalize ingame. this is not a troll btw, if someone is interested give us a pm.
but none is telling u, summoners are better. we just telling even if u are summoner and even if u play vs 3 healers u can be still usefull. because u wrote here in your river of tear, summoners are totally useless bla bla bla and thats not true. for sure some combo 2x mage + dagger or 3x mage is very effective and much more popular at this chronicle, but ... btw u can see on amc, in every tournament there was some parties with "useless" classes like tyrr, wynn in very high ranks.
please.. saying wynn can still be useful is like giving away prize for participating. against 3 healer party wynn is just a lesser class, with almost no impact whatsoever compared to what a fotm class would have with the same gear
since when its true? if you cant debuff the othell when aod and/or ue is on, prolly you wont able to debuff him even without that. the yul ue > aod+ue. just saying.
im curious to know why, how can 80% resist alone from aod be worse than +95% from yul ue? and if we take into account othell ue on top of that your comment looks even more ridiculous.^^
@ wyn for pvp - is usefull if u know what to do , look surprised, core didn`t had till him a usefull wyn in pvp 7vs7 or mass , no matter 2x or 3x heal setup, he need that window and he find it always @tank in pvp - not so useful as be4 when agro was 100% , but with proper setup he is the best crowd control class , ofc if u know what to do, 2-3 skils in right moments are more then enough to end a pvp. @3 heal setup vs 2xheal+tank - if both partys have same items 3 heal setup will lose allways in my oppinion, u just need to know when and how to exploit the weaknees they have.
wow suprised so good, wow. using marks thrugh the purge, wow! putting 3 healers in one cage, wow! summoner so strong, wow! killing people on one shot, wow! pets killing people in one second wow! are you all ******ed or what? summoners and tyrrs atm **** and daggers plus stucked mages ftw! what we can exactly see on the population in our server. there is one summoner ( suprised) and tones of lol daggers who one shot you and many stucked mages. so stop with this bull**** and i am not saying that suprised is week but his class is, in 7v7 especially agaisnt 2 pro healer or even 3 lols one. and in oly they are good, but still even a lol dagger with olympiad ring and normal aq can one shot any summoner if they manage to hit crit on cc, so gg on oly and gl on open spot where he just gets out from the hide and puts you on stun and before you manage to get out of it you already got 1 blow for 40 k and 2 for 20k.
relax, i just said that wynns can be useful in proper hands, not that they are better than feoh or dagger actually... take it easy dude.
it still prove my point. you have to play out of your mind as a wynn to reach a decent level, whereas anyone can roll with the same gear on a feoh and do the same, or even better without trying as hard as the wynn needs to. when you reach a point where there's just one ******* person who can actually do something with the class (and by something i mean having just the same impact - not a better one - as any other dd would have), you have a lesser class.