Core Daily Discussions Part 2 - Clans, PvP, Olympiad etc

you should disband bs, the freemarket will fix it.

 

he is a myth and everyone "fears" him can he shoot fire from hes butt or smth :d

 

i understand (and participated) the holy war against kardi's group and his cheaters friends, but you have to keep in mind that while we may have been able to draw a line at server start between black and white, i know also that when i look at the past of ba/bs/rg right now all i see is grey, sorry.

i didn't come back to bother about politics and other **** which were part my cp got tired of the game in the first place 2 years ago, being fuelled with hatred only take you this far. i came back to play for fun with friends, and will keep doing it regardless of politics.

 

well, taking in mind that 200 ppl in one side of the fight is like 30-40% of ppl active in siege... ofc you would be called zerg ^^

 

Spoiler

company 3-5. captain
> platoon 3-5. lieutenant
>> squad 3-5. sergeant
>>> soldier 5-12. private

there's a reason why 3-5 squads has proven to be the most efficient amount over the course of human history, why the same limit was set in mmorpg's, and the rank of lieutenant (platoon) is the threshold a clan leader can operate from.

the original definition of a zerg is a vast number of people who can rush forward and stomp through anything spite how weak they are. in mmorpg's, or more specifically lineage 2, a zerg is a vast number of people, who are not necessarily weak because they are unable to play their class, or because they don't have equipment equivalent to- or of higher grade than their opponent, but the fact that they are so many that they become impossible to manage, and each player ends up fighting autonomously from intended strategies.

the magical number is three to five. it doesn't matter what mmorpg you play. three to five squads is the maximum amount of squads you can use before it turns into a zerg. so, yes, you are a zerg. it doesn't matter what amount "the top 10 biggest clans" got; you're a zerg, just like them.

just saying.

 

organizing clans on mmorpgs is quite harder than organizing trained military, you can't order people around since they aren't paid or forced to be in your clan thus using complex tactics is actually counter productive, unless you can train/drill people it's far better to play simple and easy. being in quite some clans here i saw how attempts of organized complex tactics failed miserably.

 

pretty much like this. when your party used cheats and bots in this game, and you deny it until nowdays, when every1 knows you do, ppl feel the same. but yeah, no1 cares about you.

obs: it's even funnier to see you talking about kardi and cheats, rofl.

 

while you make a fair point, obviously, this isn't the military, but a game we play for its entertainment/fun sake... how much fun is participating in- or fighting against zergs, really?

tactics don't have to be complex in order to make results. the simplest of tactics would be to use the overlord's invincible buff to relocate positions. but that wasn't necessarily what i was referring to. what i was mainly referring to, was how the battlefield becomes near unreadable when the number of players participating exceed a certain amount, and creates more confusion for oneself than it makes control.

 

this. really alarion , you're judging people while you're not anymore in the server. tbh you had a well stacked party but now it's over, you are part of the past, and for real , people doesn't listen to people that are not legit to say something. you're not legit anymore sorry to learn you that.

seems you're not having so much fun on your so beloved mmorpg where queue is longer than the game itself , you're still comming here to take part of politics that have nothing to do with you !

 

you don't train yourself fighting 5 times larger zergs, because thats not going to happen when you want it to happen.
you don't train pvp situations that may (or may not) happen, in whichever condition that will never be the optimal one you experimented on paper or on friendly fights among clan/ally members.
complex tactics exists since forever and they hardly fail, unless the enemy counters them properly.
i can make you tons of example, a descent damage output group flanking any disordered mass is already devastating to the latter, if you'd played long enough with real top pvp gaming communities you'd know what i'm talking about.
you can flank on one side, on two sides, make feints, do giant sniping, lure enemies to chokepoints or whatever it comes to your mind.
the newer - complex the tactic is , higher the chance it fails.
but on other hand, its even higher the chance that, if it works, you're going to win flawlessly.

i've seen complex tactics used in almost any game, even in l2 , when the situation made it possible, and sieges are just the most common example.
toi at best of this game used to be a war school class, and old school players were overly descent to apply these orders in a correct way.
yet to execute a complex tactic you need proper people capable to listen and operate it, knowing their role, their cards , their gcd's and whatever it comes in terms of organisation and coordination, one wrong and anything screws up, thats why most people goes for the zerging , easier, brainless, requires no skill in the players and leaders involved.
this is why i rather fight always outnumbered . because i know that zergers and stupids are going to be my enemies.

 

another guy who think all was only bcs of items xdd

i have more right to judge this situation than u, playing here from beginign of server and being loyal to my own rules and 1 of most important was i hate hypocrysy which this server was constantly increasing lvl. same as i was insulting princesi4ka crydeyka when she was swearing i would never ever join oooc in front of 50 ppl on ts, same as ppl were swearing kardi z friend grp is 110% legit and it is worth to play with such cool ppl., same as whole ppl (especialy shaniq grp) who left bs and joined enclave were talking about ba / rg for more than 1 year. how strong they were insulting them and vice versa. i hate such ppl i just want vomit and make such ppl disappear. i could even show pm from shaniq from like 2 months ago where she was making me sure she isnt such ******ed to join ba when first time i heard some rumors she is planning to do it. i apologised her for my accusation but seems it was only matter of time. rats like selenia or atlantis changing other ppl around in rats.

u just proving again hwo stupid u are ))) go count my posts since head start (from 16th) and compare it with period before it when was still beta. be smart do math and think twice before u write something stupid again.

1 extra hint for u: from work i cant play, just read forum.

 

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just go milk ur cow and feed chickens or w.e alarion who cares

 

well i can do both including pvp like 500 vs 500 yesterday but i guess u know better )))

anyway dont change topic we speaking about something else.

 

alarion go bot and nolife on aa and gtfo from here. its lineage ii not aa forum.

 

well shanike said "if they give the 7s talisman to farm i will quit". they bought that talisman and leave.. so at least she keep her words, if you know what i mean


@ lolsnowyz. dude, you were not even play when kardi and his cp did, so wtf you talking about. you know nothing.
but you can lick some more butt, and they will tell you some story.
best regards.

 

who are you?

 

that guy knows or has an opinion about absolutly everything ! i remember having him on clan chat, damn what a pain...

 

some other stupid person with his epic conspiracy theories? ehh i will miss these idiots and what they believe xddd

so lets come back to main topic.

 

although, i realize that your post was not intended for me. i would just like to say, that i can throw a deck of cards on the floor, and watch as it makes a mess, too.