Core Daily Discussions Part 2 - Clans, PvP, Olympiad etc

what are you stating is wrong. we go daily pvp and fight even if we have less numbers. there were times when we needed to rebuild clan, those times we didn't show up. but if we had enough numbers to kill the raids, we did show up. of course 3 ba to 1 bs ratio is pointless to fight, but 2:1 numbers is very common these days and we do participate in such pvps so you don't need to spread invalid info.

 

i can't say anything about lvl94-99 (since my old cp disbanded at these levels) but saying that alarion party only started to go out after they got gear advantage is wrong. by no mean they did hide like some others party did to get gear advantage against everyone else like tazman, autobotkardi and turnon party. (keep in mind i'm talking about server start)
these 3 parties are the ones who started pvp after they got gear & lvl advantage, i remember doing a lot of 7v7 against alarion back in the days in soa where they were very active and the gear / level difference wasn't that huge, what sealed their early victories most of the time was their 3rd class prof (noblesse cancel, pow and harmony + song).

but most of the people here were still in soa when the server started reaching lvl95..

 

i was there

 

2 : 1 how u count it. idk we see frapses from your players and they are not afraid to delete online and now someone telling me we have double of your numbers?
clan who bringing 63 ppl to parnassus at midnight telling me they have 80 ppl in cc during prime time?
sorry kinda hard to believe or mby u think we have daily activity 300+ . last siege we didnt had 300 ppl .
during events we had 151 ppl to lock insrances a lot of times with boxes

 

don't even try to argue with this boy, it's pointless...

 

finally home, so here are some number about our top zerg clan and ally:

1.10.2014 valakas 130
7.10.2014 valakas 152
14.10.2014 valakas 127
25.10.2014 valakas 115

3.10.2014 antharas 147
9.10.2014 antharas 166
14.10.2014 antharas 132
25.10.2014 antharas 152


so still lf confirmation -> bs ally online during siege 180+80 and in dragons ratio 3:1 resp. 2:1 so 50-80? really?
while in parnassus u have similar numbers without 7s? seems u again catch in ur own spider's web of lies...

 

oh boy.. the problem is that our activity is not stable, do i have to mention that we didn't show up for some events like livindor becouse we didnt had even enought ppl to enter with ally?
one time we have more one time less..

 

no one reads what i say, do you ? :f

i didn't say that they didn't pvp before they had the huge difference in gear, i said that they looked for pvp all evening after they didn't have anything more to farm. i didn't say that before that they didn't pvp at all or didn't pvp for whole evenings, i said that before, when they had the time, they went to farm, instead of camping parnasus. my point was ( and always is ) that to "matter in pvp" you have 2 options :

1) mucho farm
2) mucho donador

different people have different real life, different priorities and so on, so i respect everyone's choice on how they earn their gear/levels in the game. what i don't respect is arrogant and ignorant people, that think they're better than everyone else ( donated or not ).

yea, about that, can you tell me, how much is your average online at evenings ? cuz i really wanna compare the numbers. i know it varies but there shouldn't be more than 10-20% variance of the online count each evening, i.e. if you have ~100 online, some evenings can be 80 some 120, right ?

 

well and now read what i wrote previously :d

 

it is true that you pvped actively when barely any1 was 99 (only maybe kardi grp)
fact is, after everyone got 99, and shortly before my party left hi to join bs you guys went very inactive and since then you didn't pvp actively until lindvior update where you got amethyst/totiskind and started to pvp again. this lasted +- until our 7v7 and after you farmed gainak 24/7 and loa aswell, you started to leave town actively again.

so yes, you may have a lot of frapses on lvl85 to 98, but i highly doubt you have many frapses from tauti chronicle or glory days, where the majority of the ppl hit 99.

 

@elronia:
that is one of the reason i am looking foward the next update that finally put people outsides to do what l2 was always about : farm. i heard people joke about infinite level but people tends to forget what l2 always did to force their players to pvp : endless farm be it leveling (classic) or top end items (gracia and above).
hell, on server start my old cp time from 6pm to 0am sometime consisted only of 1 soa daily which took you 4h to do because there was never ending pvp there. why ? because it was "the" farming spot not only for xp, but also for items/stones. now you have the failure which is hb only useful for sp (and not even good at it) and instances for everything farm related, forcing parties that want to pvp to "camp" because what else they should do when they are max level with instances on cd ?

 

to be honest i have no idea, i am not checking recently online, but i think it's around ~100 at cp time. i think our biggest problem is that we can't get ppl for dragons/events if it's not in cp time or close to.
you have there more possibilities as you have more ppl in ally, so if you announce something you have more chance to get enough ppl. simple example is anakim/lilith at weekend where we just don't have enough people online to enter or to kill as it was in last weekend.

and also i think it's not so bad with mass pvp during cp time as ppl wrote, we have some fun, and logy's imagination that everyone is doing pr when see ba crest...

 

is not ba crest, people is afraid to loose his wallets when they see haxito coming.

 

well i would say there is almost every evening some mass pvp!

 

yesterday night good pvp in soh but 2 much friendly fire from enclave and ba.gz all for pvp.do it more often.
thats the only thing that matters nowadays.both sides go out of town.

 

are u saying two clan has bigger numbers in clan events then three clans combine ? and even u saying they have 3 times or 2 times more numbers then u ... lol? i don't know is that funny or sad .. or maybe i don't get your math ...

 

that's the real numbers from 3 clans that we had on those raids. take it as you want, sad, funny, w/e, but it's even more funny when i hear the "zerg" word or 3:1 or 5:1

 

well i understand that 3 clans would had might less number then 2 clans .. but when he says 3:1 .. wtf .. at that much ? :d unless he counts they're box's as part of zerg too :d
p.s and hes name is logy .. so kinda sounds like logic , so where is logic !!! :d

 

yeah... i'm done with this, thank you pointless argument in the end, having fun is what matters

 

are u sure u was 4 pt's? did u count if i had box's on cause logy sure did count :d