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  1. Razzly

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    buying adena from rmt's just encourages them to do it more and more while from l2store it stays in core and helps develop server.

    no ppl buying adena from external source = no rmt sellers
     
  2. Sun40

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    your ignorance is disturbing ... so you are saying l2store is good no matter what , cuz regardless how obviously stupid it is to get the top items in the game with $ legitly , as long as in stays in the developers it's good ?
    ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha...

    tell you what , when there were no l2 stores at all and the game was with subscription (no , not this ridicilous premium that alows u to get 99 in 2 weeks) , even with the bots arround the game was 10 times more balanced and fun to play .
    cuz the risk in botting is that u get hammered right , but also it reduces the prices of overall items on the x server and balances the economy .
    while using l2store any rich or addicted kid can e-bay the **** out of the "events" , i don't know why they even call it event when it's nothing to do with any ingame activity .
    comparison of the 2 things is just out of the line .

    and please next time you ban me in the forum for using "fyi" get a clue what it stands for (no it is nothing like fu)

    just the opinion of a retired lineager . cheers .
     
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  3. Zairakh

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    gladly another oldschool player got my points.

    in your message a word,that i purposely avoided to use before , just hit me.
    balanced.

    what the heck does this mean?
    that before , when the eula clearly stated that the use of real life money was forbidden exactly as it was using 3rd party softwares it didn't mattered a single bit how rich you were irl but how good you were in growing your chars with your own resources,those that you managed to get through game mechanics,not through spending rl money.
    and ebaying was at least discouraged. this is difference,now is not discouraged anymore,lol,just botting it is.
    keep cheats along as everybody used them , it was balanced in this,way more than it is now cause now poor people still can't bot while rich people can just throw endless pockets in the game and feel pro. thats indeed not balanced.
    its just hypocrite and it completely defies the concept of the game.

    you see the difference on this?

    apart of this,cause now everybody will flame me,but be sincere to yourself and tell me how botting (free,10$ for everybody at best) is more unfair or balance breaking than ebaying under whichever label.
    is simply false and now i will explain you why.
    as if the first may cause inflation,the others does the same but with the return that most of the playerbase wouldn't ever manage to afford what few people willing to throw hundreds of € will without efforts.
    it completely screws the whole game,no wonder that after f2p this game gone nuts.

    so no razzly,i am sorry, but rmt e cash shop are two different entities (on speech) but they answer the exact same demand.
     
  4. Relic

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    lmao what did you expect ?
    l2 is dead game,dead get it ?
    what you do with dead game ? you milk from community every last penny before you can close servuh for good ,or leave it running w/o gm's and support staff
    lold at develop server,koreans are doing all the work while the only thing innova seems to be capable of doing is nerfing everything to the ground to make us pay more or upgrade cash store but yeah i guess you could call it "developing" .

    seriously dunno guys why you keep playing this game here.
     
  5. BeerWarrior

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    that's what seems to be the only explanation, what relic said.

    the majority of the server community has well developed characters with less and less left there to do, except few more weeks of sp farm, pvp set, equipment enchant and pvp.
    not much of the above comes from the l2store, less and less of the xp/sp runes/potions, instance tickets are bought.
    people made up their minds with beauty shop, appearances, genders and classes.
    less people need pa having 99/99/80/80 characters.

    so what do they buy? rose buffs and some of everything but that's not enough to provide sustainable income to pay innova staff's salary.

    precisely, not much is there left to do except for pimping-up the characters (i'm speaking of majority of characters, not of everyone) so innova as a company had no other choice than to help people pimp-up the characters with what's currently so controversial about the l2store.

    sure we don't want it but they have to keep earning the money, it's not a charity, it's a company dependent on the income and we're the ones they get money from.

    surprised? it's hard to say that the server is dying, i'd say, the server reached the endgame and the recent move of innova is a one of the last resorts to su.ck the money out of our wallets before the inevitable shutdown.
    sure they could leave the server as it was a week ago, keep one admin, stop checking on bots, close the support and let the server die naturally.

    honestly, if you ran your own company, what would you do? eh? that's what i thought.
    so do not be angry with innova, don't act surprised, you can be angry that the server is reaching the endgame.
     
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  6. Sun40

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    it makes perfect sense from company's point of view , but us the players got enough (i think) of this neverending greed for more money and the nasty ways of obtaining them .
    as for me , the server already is in meltdown status ... progressively . nothing to be mad at really .. just move on .
     
  7. Zairakh

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    yeah but still past god the devs structured the game around a concept of gameshop (85-99 at first) that tends to be abused as soon is put in place.
    even rapidblades would manage to realize this. :d

    sadly most people doesn't know how to count let alone how to judge and recognize a commercial policy from another one.
    end of the road as it was meant to be 3 years ago.
    nc already has chased away 80% of his former playerbase in the hope to convince casual-softcore players wow-style to come and try a free l2 but...it was not l2 anymore,regardless of what those guys and the devs can think now.
    again these talks have been done already,here some:

    https://4gameforum.com/showthread.php?t=10996

    dumbing down the game was the first step , allowing real money involvment to substain it the last nail in the coffin.
    indeed the game is old and after ten years nobody would expect to be still at his best shape but this does not mean,anyhow,that couldn't have handled differently.
    l2 devs have failed long ago.
     
  8. sixsense

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    i m not happy about this game because now there is more to play in l2 store than in actually game... huge clans going to dragons , epics collecting drops slowly takes monhs to get things. and now u can spend 1 euro and get it all u can spend 3 euro and get longing. there is no respect to players no respect to the game. why da *** u put those dragons in game when u can buy epics. and its not something rare because from easter egg everybody was sifting bless aq bless orfen in tarot event half year baium not droping any bottle and like 10 if not more alrdy got bless baium botless... what to talk about pvp weapon stones , there is no way to obtaid from game only from l2 store again about 10 ppl got it and now u faki ng remove it from l2 store wtf is wrong with u even putting such stuff and u faked people with golden create because it had like 0 chances to get it from 4 euros but 10 times better to get it fro 1 euro. mages with pvp weapons *** ing op putting faking gloom +devil curse -90% mdef and killing 50 ppl 1 hit. u faked totaly this game now wait for next update is gonna be even worse.

    destroyed all game fun absolutely where is those times when u want to be beetter then others you farm hard lets say to make +8 set u buy peaces you fail many times u waste your time but at some point u are only 1 who makes it. and now from l2 store u can obtain for few cents few scrolls without putting any work in game to enchant or you buy from others who got and sell and its 5 times cheaper and better chance. dragons every 2 week droping 2 bottles but from event after 1 week there was like 50 valakas 50 anthy bottles. innova you are happy and its just because you see the numbers of money you get , you have 0 respect to the game u just make business from us without any kind of respect. lilith died core will die as well i hope u collected enouth money.
     
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  9. dmxpowa

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    they could atleast remove the dualbox limitation now that theyre milking the players w/o pa
     
  10. JayJay

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    meanwhile in catnnova office


    all you write here people is true, but they couldn't care less.
    they know that people feel some kind of weird but powerful attachment to this game and that we won't leave that fast & easy official server (especially people who are here from the beginning, having much stuff) so they mlk us, muuuuuuuuu

    at the beginning i've felt so bad that i'm not that rich to afford instant +8 blessed set + blessed 99 wep and shine bright like a rihanna's diamonds but i feel so much better now with my tickets to summer music festival.

    life is full of hard choices....... nope
     
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  11. JayJay

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    anytime, just give me limp bizkit show in aden 8)
     
  12. SentencedToBlues

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    anyone has seen yet any ancient scroll?:

    well this is not the end yet, i've asked a question to innova regarding brooch system lets see the answer
     
  13. sixsense

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    i've asked them if they are going to ever add it, if they will i guess time for wow
     
  15. Elesmira

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    russians have brooch?
     
  16. iRayDeN

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    lol, i didnt see the event of brooch, if i see this here, it's time for leave.
     
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  17. zauliuz

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    leave it now. because sooner or later this happens.
     
  18. Alarion

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    there was interview few / several weeks ago with some russian inova menager and he promised threy dont plan to put brooch. on the other hand they promised a lot of stuff 1 year ago so we will see i hope inova has at least some brain remain. if brooch or something similar come then i quit for 110% )))
     
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  19. Epyh0n

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    lol'd about mdef debuff calculation u must know there cap for pdef m def reduction but u are right about all others
     
  20. RazZz

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    dont think it will be any goddess server different so soon ? ps: i hope i wont get ban for this "spam/flame/troll"
     
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