Are we still playing same lineage?

when i log in to this game i am always asking my self what to do? baylor? kartia? facepalm on your kartias and baylors, istinas and octavis and the rest instances you made to waste people time. pvp? against who? server is dead after your events. good people quited game and some of good people are about to quit , but whatever. make l2store button more larger and more pay2win events people like them not it makes game more intresting not. what is my problem? i could ask you same innova . why you put a chance to get pvp weapon stone in l2store when there is no way to get it from the game? why vakas/anthy is every 2 weeks and drops 2 bottles, but when you make pay2win event you drop 100 bottles in 2 weeks for players?why baium is every sunday and in half of year it drops 1 -2 bottles and when is pay2win event it drops 20 bottles in 2 weeks? good questions ,but what you can do is just be in silence. people plays hours,days,months,years farming gear just to be better then others and you *** them everytime you put such events. you giving those gm buffs with nevits because you think is hard to get 99? its 2 weeks lvl from lvl 1 to 99 if you know how and where to exp. and what you say is that you have problem with kamaloka...

 

srsly i have same feelings. from some logical point of view after this stupid pay2win events there should be (and they are) many many ppl who made their sets oe, got blessed weapons, pvp sets/parts and blessed jew (including dragon's what never should happen). the result is?
spots are even more empty. some trashes from ba saying we dont leave town (however i still ask anybody for 7 vs 7 since several months). guess what, we left few times 1 week ago with fll or 6 ppl and couldnt find anybody from enemies except haxito trying to make some ninja 7 vs 21 (at least we are not such idiots like them to trash on hv somebody lost 7 vs 21...). next 2 days were kinda same or even worse.

so i ask, where are those boosted by l2store ppl? what is the point to leave town and waste few hours in order to find few insta prs while rest server stay in town and doing what? sets +8?
dragons pvps lost their fun since first day ba were doing carpet mode.

sieges? lets say most of them were fun but for god's sake! it is only 1 time per 2 weeks!

 

ugh,my same conclusions,just 2 years late.

but don't bash on innova too much ,i mean ,yea , they're adding further mistakes to all of this but is not about them,is just the game that became that way.

l2 had hardcore features that were removed and put in place of more simplified mechanics catered to completely different audience (wow-aion kind of players,the curse of online gamers,thats it).
which was the main cause that lead to the end of l2.
cause this game is now dead for good,however you put it it won't last long 'cause its already over his natural timespan.

there could be a deeper discussion about what the community turned to be, but i would start again the whole p2p/f2p discussion and i would go off topic pretty fast.
overall yes, you're right, but don't expect anything different as long as nc believes to catch a milion of casual players to replace their former playerbase gone since long time.

 

i wont agree with u cause just few months ago there was ** load of pvp everywhere. overal previous year and until may this one situations was more than good to enjoy and got plenty of fun around.

 

can be but still a game like l2 needs a larger activity to keep servers alive and interesting to play.
i can say,the same is going on the west servers where basicly the community and servers turned to be two sided and everything else dwindled down, preparing to the end.
yea,you'll still have some pvp, fun during sieges and whatnot , but honestly the more the gameshop gets invasive the more players will just get bored and quit rather than waste a fortune just to keep having fun.
the break point is how long will this take, is sad 'cause sincerely i really loved this game (thats why i'm still jumping around l2 community even through i quitted) and had much fun playing it.
but to make adenas, to make gear and so on should've been stayed an ingame achievement and not a event-lead or gameshop consequence.

be honest alarion, compared to day 1 of core launch the server has lost 90% of his population,how this can be considered as nearly as good? :/

 

im ordinary player, dunno how about u but i find pvp almost everytime i want. i can do my dailies easy. so population seems fine, there is still some nice number of ppl in dragons, siege events.

about l2store, well i dont think that the chance of getting bottle/pvp stone or any other uber item, is that high that it influences economy. however it's not good in respect of other people who've farmed their ***'es off for those items.
i havent spent any money on this server and still able to enjoy it, since i treat it as a game, not as a work or any other hard activity.

don't forget, this server is kinda best server in the world for english community.

 

if you have "everything" than yes. only cry in forums left that there is nothing to do. many peoples reach 99 and start xp duals.. like 95 for dual is not enough. and ignore sp farm.. boring. but this is reality. want oldschool pve.. here you go. get 11b sp for 16ap. don't like it? go xp zaken chars. i know some peoples who doing exactly like this. main/dual 99. 2-3 ap. and ***tload of useless twinks.

 

ppl trying to speak about real problems but the ****** coming and spread same propaganda again

 

can some people put aside jihad & alahu akbar hatred away for just 1 thread? just 1?

 

i think the discussion was about ppl playing competitive pvp's in 7vs7 situations . finding ppl by harassing lowbies in cruma tower and such is not considered a pvp .
totaly agree with all on the discussion , but here is my question - when you are perfectly clear with what is going on , why do you still play ? this is against any logic . if you don't like it - then leave the game , simple as that .
there's no need to open 20 new threads with the same content .
as the elders arround here say .... human is different than donkey cuz you don't have to tell him twice ... meaning anyone with a braincells will understand something , once he's told . in this situation you don't even have to tell anything , cuz it's obvious even for the kids what is going on .

and last but not least , this is certanly not english friendly community .
i guess u misstyped some of the ncsoft server's name . cheers .

 

ofc u can, u flag on lowbies on s3 24/7 and call it a pvp with a 99 dagger.


back on topic.

the game is now "farm l2 store in town and do nothing else". even if found pvp , u see these ***** that get all ***** blessed, epic jewels in 1-2 months and go around shouting "youre trash! youre trash!" cause they can 1 shot people who only pay average (pa, some goodies every now and then) unlike that lol dagger with 5k euros on acc? wut?



also sixsense, why dont u just tell nemesysx and maximo to war the entire server except for rg? when i was in heartbreakers and we couldnd find pvp anymore, war the next flagged *******, kill all flagged, i dont see you doing that, u focus on 2 clans, and ofc there is no pvp. i remember when i was in ba and almost everyone was an enemy to me we attacked all flagged, i dunno why you decided to change that policy like a creepy carebear.

 

there is still no bettar game out there...yet! so stop qq and play ******* game like right now! ofc it will go all p2w model and blablabla, it will waste ur time and nervez, but after all, you choose to play it and it's just ur fault ur still here...

 

well, we declared wars against every clan that has 99/99 toons such as laonda, furiousangels and many other clans. the outcome? best case scenario war opened and after 1 day they closed it

 

well in my case:
-this game was nice way back in the past(not on this server);
-this game is nothing that it used to be (no instances , p2w , stupid pk system etc);
-this game is stupid but i cant quit (sometimes i do for a few months but always come back for more of this stupid game);
-this game is not a game, at least on this server, its a business so ofc the owners know the numbers, as long as there are enough idiots to pay for some pixels , lets feed them some more pixels;
-its summer, some idiots go out and forget about the pixels for a while.

 

nobody wants to fight l2store players. so go cry that nobody wants to play vs you. when you step on a siegefield and your average good equipt char gets 1shot for 150k damage by some mage. enjoy much ? if you want pvp . your better off in a average mid ranked clan. but you also wont get the chance to get something of the epics top clans farm.
top clans are mostly about reaching max cap as quick as possible. ppl care mostly only about their cp and dont give a damn about other clannies.( if your rich and or you have amazing items, you suddenly become best friend of many ppl xd or you get haters ) these clans are farming clans. epics epics epics. siege.. thats it. the clans where ppl are friends are usual the clans where you can have fun.
choose your destiny.

 

it doesn't have to be the opponent a donor for you to not like to go against him because you will eat 150k on the face. many people had the advantage being on the server longer than you. still has the same result yeah. aaaaand about the other thing about top clans...yes you care about your cp because you do stuff as cp so you must communicate with your cp but, if you wanna stay self-contained in that cp borders and do not have contacts with the rest of the clan that's personal issue not clan issue. i am attached to my cp but i do not only speak and communicate with them. i have fun with maaaaaaany people in the clan and there are others being the same.

 

god update killed the main playerbase of l2
accept that and move forward,
play here and stop crying
or search for the numerous private servers with huge player base that open all the time
u know what their common thing is?h5 or gracia chronicles
most are for a low time-margin?
who cares ,1 year of epic pvp is enough

 

well you can all say, dont like it leave, l2 is dead blablabla. the thing is, the reason this server didnt die yet is because the players love the game, but no one has the patience to wait forever. some already left, some think to leave every day (like me) but we still believe that the gm's or who ever is in charge didnt get irreparable brain damage because from the last events thats what it seems.
they have 2 choices:

1- keep this big ******** and loose the rest of playerbase (yeah u can get 1 or 2millions from the rich ppl fast) but in the late case scenario you will probably loose way more than that! keep in mind even big donors get bored cause they donated so much that they have nothing else to do/farm)

2- increase adena rate, change drop chance of stupid octavis and istina that drop 1 jewel per 2 months, do ingame pvp events 7vs7 14vs14 3vs3, and what elesmira said about premium and drop chance was also a good option. u know why ppl are leaving and cry all the time? i will explain you, the only way you have to make adena right now is: merchants (farmed by completely stacked chars with clan protection), gainak in war (also farmed by top clans), make 200 zaken chars and pray for luck (this might take a few time). so for the actually average player that pays premium every month, waste money in vitality, waste some money in l2store (90% of ppl do it, gambling is a disease!) he is completely screwed and will eventually stop trying to improve his char.

you have problems with gm's to organize stuff? i bet there are a lot of players that would do it for free without personal interest or reward (im also one of them), because what matters in the end is the fun you have in the server!

now to finish this off, respect your enemy because without them you wont have any fun, so stop this hate and focus on what is important!!... killing mobs aint fun at all!

 

ppl spending more time on l2store stuffs and aden trades and forums then playing ... map is rly empty except lets say 6pm till 12 am