NCSOFT will open a classic server

before god you could add +12 to a single stat, but only +9 would work, rest would go to waste.

now if this l2c will bring some changes to old l2 then +12 might work, but definetly it didn't before god. do you have any source about this change?

 

yes, you can have +12 -15 (x3 +4 -5 from grocery)

 

before god you can use +12 but work only those negative ones.. for example you canget +5/-15
anw -30% hp, that hurts

 

oh yeah i forgot about the grocery store d:

 

lol so fun u wrote so big text but said nothing regarding the actual game nor counter-argument on anything, out of arguments already?

simply stating truth to clear delusions. pet buffers will exist, there is no utopia as u try to deceive ppl here, they exist on kr, ru, core/na, priv servers. everyone should play as they want, not because you want them to play a certain manner. you gonna rage on ppl if they box? i see the sympthoms here.

 

woooooooooooow (i'm starting to force this at this point)

you call that big? really? there's nothing to counter-argument as there's no argument presented. you used a very absolute word to describe a play style (read is, not mostly is or more commonly is, you just said is) while boxing is more profitable to individuals and even groups (which comes from sharing no or fewer rewards) it is far from absolute(as in meaning _nobody_ has to play this way).

what you want me to counter-argument? you want me to say boxing is worse for an individual? because that's a 100% subjective, for me boxing takes away all the fun from this game so why would i care for quicker and more profitable progression when i'm not having fun? if you want to rush to end-game asap ignoring most of the game's lore then sure, boxing will definitely help you in that regard.

what i argue is that lineage 2's community pushed away different play styles as more players started to ignore the company of strangers due to the reduced need of them.

it's bad game design 101. not like ncsoft would ever listen to non-pvp changes(okej that's unfair of me, they did listen to it when they started to wownize the game and went back to its roots by removing bound equipment).

 

finally someone's showing to be smart. that is your own ideal of how the game should be. many people play this game to win, why did the drop rates got severely lowered? cause of botting and devs afraid of future inflation (which is stupid, on server that doesnt have adena to begin with and kill rate of mobs is slow), so if people bot to win why wouldnt they box? which is completetly legit and profitable? to "have fun" is not the same for all, some have fun by winning or staying competitive, by being relevant on the big clan scenario. also you can box while u group with people.


i hate the "box scheme" ncl2 put on players, i dont need to box on other games at all, while i can still solo or group, at places designed for those types of interaction. on l2 you are forced to have a buffer for way too simple tasks that puts too much limitation on what you can acomplish(and the only way to take some limitations from this is to play ur lol ranged class like 80% of dds take cause they can kite). i should group whenever i wish to go to group areas, not have to be completetly cast away if my buff bar is empty.

 

to be honest it's just how i have fun, not how i idealize the game, but yes... it's completely subjective. i enjoy having a character or more that are avatars of myself in that world. i could give them a personality different from mine(i currently play in core as a completely arrogant narcissistic gorgeous flamboyant male elf) or simply self-insert myself. i dislike seeing that some avatars hold no importance to their owners outside of supporting roles for another avatar, but that's just me. people can play the game in anyway they want but it's awfully dishonest to spurt it out as the only way to play.

and please don't think this means disliking competition, i love to compete i just am not willing to bend the game's design flaws to achieve my goals(like accepting wars and leaving a clan temporarily to don't be affected by it, that's ridiculous).

why i advocate and will continue to so is that this game can be played in several manners and when the game's community is so close-minded about that it might just push away newcomers that could only enjoy this game playing differently.
an example would be for a new player to be constantly told he or she has to run two windows at all times, raise a buffer or anything of sorts. not everyone likes that and the older player-base that didn't kind of left the game.

 

guys can u tell me if there is auction house in l2c gk?

 

no theres not, or atleast i havent seen on any streams.

 

as you can see on this video (one of top archer pt from ru), when he got dances/songs on he deals far more with auto attacks than skills.

 

before god you could have only +5 to 1 stat, while you could have even -15 for 1 stat. for example you could have 3x +4 str -5 con, and you had bonus only from +5 str and you lost hp/resists for 15 con.

 

+5, +15, +50 who cares, just open the server pls :notworthy:

 

no!

 

archers till h5 was always stun and auto-attacks mate..

 

without songs/dances skills deals more dmg.

 

ur so full of **** dude, rapid fire dont change skills range, only regular attack (f1)...... and everyone that played oficial knows that there is a big diference on oficial game and privates ones, on private servers u just press attack and on the official game the archers skills are the real dmg.



all of u talking **** about it and dont know a damn thing, please stop posting ****.

he start f1 ppl, cos he dont have mp.

 

fire dance 35% crit dmg, chant of rage 35% crit dmg. idk about summoners, they have those feline queens or not. if yes.. another 35% crit dmg can be added from blessing of queen with this setup archers was imba op dd's during pvp till god when skills dmg become stronger than normal attacks.

btw on interlude fire dance and death whisper/chant of rage crit dmg bonus was reduced to 15 or 20% just because archers was too op. he with draconic bow and baium ring 2shot da in ic set (in one of geechi moovies form 4seps pvp (c4 times) )

 

the boxed buffer vs live buffer issues is complex.

while the game was made by koreans and designed primarily for their own audience it is not entirely true for the west, experience is very different between the two regions.

koreans play l2 differently, for them it is a social event. most used to gather in internet cafes and played together, the collective moment is far more present with them as it is in western cultures. with that being said, most of them didnt need to box the most crucial support classes and rather grouped people who played them. while some classes are very similar there are over 30 different of them and a 9 man group system that nicely portraits this.

while in west, most people are competitive, the collective moment is far lesser. most people want to be number one/win the game/be faster than anyone else to reach top levels and end game or be recognized. hence why some people prefer to box a buffer/support in desire to reach max potential in minimal time.

 

the second part of this is that sometimes buffer think he has to give buffs and go afk. ive seen this maaany time, especially when party play with warcryer before cov. buffer afk, whole party have to wait. sad but true. and what when someone died? waiting...

btw
i prefer alive buffers, but sometimes it just looks like this.