pa price

they wont need a 2nd server anytime soon at this rate =)

 

i go play tera.. till all this **** here is fixed..

 

@umbarabumba i don't say server quality is awesome. i just say that ncwest is neither better (due to the fact both companies get their files from the same source - ncsoft) nor cheaper (if you want to exp twice as fast as those who play for free).

do you really think l2j is better? on most l2j servers i've seen only cosmetic fixes and not a single real fix of something. yes, i agree the patch they got from ncsoft messed with the game seriously, no idea what the developer is thinking, but still it's not innova's fault, they're distributer (of a sort) after all. and i do believe that even if this patch was intended there is some sort of idea behind it, tho with my experience with ncsoft usually their ideas of how the game should be developed and mine are usually not quite the same. but i'm used to playing it and i usually adapt.

and i didn't say that i like the pa prices, no i don't. but i was 100% sure it wont be cheaper than €10 per month. well it seeems like it's €10/month only for 3 months subscription, not so bad. after all i don't plan to move any time soon anyway.

also i thought it's obvious that innova had to rush the launch of the europe services due to the fact ncwest updated straight to god on 1st. if they've waited more they could use their license as toilet paper. but well ye rushing things don't aways work well, on the contrary it's usually a disaster, tho i'd give them a credit it's not that bad all things considered. and giving them a credit for this i'd also give them vote of confidence that they'll fix the things we don't like in a longer run.

i'd buy pa for a week or wait a bit probably and see if there is improvement and then get 3 or 6 months one which is within the price range of those who say €9 and i'd buy. well i guess they can throw a coffee on the top of it and get it for €10 but well i guess most of the people around are used to servers closing in month and don't want to pay for three.

whatever, it's free continent last time i checked, i'm just throwing my opinion here.

good luck with the strike, hope you succeed, overthrow the evil innova and get lower prices for pa. viva la revolution!

 

stomped1 i dont understand you at all. how you can compare wow price with innova price? blizzard make game so blizzard must pay workers, ncsoft publish aion so ncsoft must pay workers, ea publish star wars so ea must pay workers......... and what innova must pay? server? its same like private servers, they cant lose money cos they probably signed with ncsoft to give % of soled items. i saw lot of private servers that have less laggs then innova and same amount of ppl. 10 and less euros for premium is ok, but 12 is just too much.sry for bad english.

 

u dont understand do u?
its busnes, and every busnes company is intented to make money.
its market.

 

you are the only one to me, that keep saying the same thing over and over again and dont know **** about what you are saying.

but keep going, you might get some followers.

"market he says"...damn...

 

yeah thats hwy u cant afford pa, and after hard studys and alot of work i got at the place i am today, knowingthe marking and learning bout it and knowing how stuff works irl make me i am today, i dont evne have to leave me home now to work and earn money.

 

who said i cant afford pa? i did? where?

stop coming up with ****** posts, over and over again. you're the one that seems to fail to see what most of people are talking about here.

ill give you a small list, that has been quoted for alot of people in this same thread:

f we think about pa as our support to this company, why should we support :
1, general greediness and short sighted direction:
refusing to buy/open second server.
refusing to motivate and fight for ncwest customers, no attempts to crowd as many eu servers as possible.
overpriced items with unworthy rewards.
overpriced premium account.
2, amateurish presentation of company:
unprofessional press releases ( cleaning dust from server instead of patch notes )
dear deer ... we dont know anythink .. we will inform u soon that nothing has changed about us not knowing it.
delays, unsuccessfull server start
general knowledge of moderators
general presentation of moderators
lack of content of website
3, technical problems
server lags / dc problems/ shot lags
website launcher related errors
badly programmed launcher based on absolete c++ runtimes at launch
bad / incomplete translation of premium shop items ( vita replenishing pot does not info about 10 minutes instead of 30 etc)


rings you a bell?

is this the market plane? really? is this how a company should work? really?

its been fail after fail after fail. what people like you fail to understand, is that 90% of people playing right now were here before, and they left for a reason...rings a bell to you? do you know why we got back? want me to tell you?

now you can come up with your ****ty "3 arguments line" (trolololol at this) that you been using over and over again, because i wont give a fck about them (and they are "you cant afford pa", "its market, business bla bla bla", "its f2p you dont need to pay for it")

best regards.

 

wtf man, what bussines?i dont say bcs i would do like that but if they put 10e they will make much more profit then 12e.they have bad financial advisor if they even have any.i know that what we speak will do not change anything but nvm...lineage 2 will have players until february,and then ppl will go to aion f2p especially if in aion we get pa for less money. btw ncwest have hats so for me that is worster then pa here..and yes they can do regional price same like steam.example in west europe price of game 50 in east europe price of same game 40. and here are almost all ppl from east , i see very very small amount of ppl from uk,germany,france bcs they play wow,rift,star wars....

 

@legionar012: i seriously doub't ncsoft signed for percent of the profit/income, it'd guess it's more like license fee. also private shards can afford having their service off for quite a lot more therefore can reduce the technical personal to one person on a part time job, usually the one who get the profit anyway.

but yeah i really want to see the contract innova and ncsoft signed, i want to see the figures of registered players/online players/online times. age, location of the registered people. some marketing studies. probably if we get those we can really judge if the prices are fair or not :-d.

 

u wont see that stuff, first of all they cant show contracts second they would not want to show

 

this is only because you had luck, im computer engineer and i dont have work now where i live ( spain ), you dont have reason only because you have a work ,dude â¬â¬.

i can pay 12 euros for a can of coke, oh yes, i can, but a can of coke dont cost 12 euros ........

 

it was part of luck yes, but alot of em was hard studys at universitet and hard hard work, extra studys and more hard work

 

oh so it's just private company deciding on their prices. weird, by the amount of protests i saw i got mistaken it's the government, so i was already writing a letter in the form mentioned in the law of public information access.

 

i like this sentence, clearly shows the issue here

 

you can be easily tricked with that, some tard will just say, you dont need to buy coke, just get a pepsi (see what i did here?)!

 

sup,

it seems innova needs to hire marketing menager as they prolly lose a lot of money due to unreasonable price policy.
there is 1 ( one ) eu server atm that gives +-8k players. most of them came from private servers just because l2 became f2p.
by setting pa price at 12euro, which is more than wow prepaid or even brand new sw tor prepaid with milions of subscribers both; for 7 years old, bugged, lagged game is just amusing
not to mention comparing to ruoff price it's nearly twice more. i don't know innova's intentions or business plan, but it looks like they want's to ruin their business completely. 12euro = 16usd..

i'm going to buy pa, i admit but it's still pretty overpriced, especially for poor service innova provides - server started with a huge delay, overhelming lags ( shots, drops, talking with npc, craft ), monsters level issue, floating combat text delays... i know that noone is perfect, but customers demand quality.
if u want us to pay, offer a decent service worth that price.

and one more thing - everyone who says it's free and nobody has to pay is a *****. lineage is a game that level means everything so it's not a competition when few get twice more exp than others.
so pa is a must have, everyone knows that.

cheers

 

atm its not worth to buy pa at all if u r not above 85lvl bcuz all exp spots are broken and the only 1 left with good exp is pi with awesome exp quest for mages

so would u buy coke/pepsi for 12 euro if u would not be able to drink it? even if u could, would u buy coke or pepsi for 12 euro? i doubt that

 

obviously i wont buy it any soon. not that i cant afford that, but is kinda useless atm, since im 2levels away from pi amazing xp (lololol).

 

came here just to say my opinion, i think pa should cost more, like 15euro per month. why? because for me 15 euro is nothing, and for some of you it is something, looking from my point of view for me higher price is better because less people will have it. so i think this is fair for those who have money, and its really not fair for those who don't or who just don't want to pay this amount for a game. my advise for those who cry about the price - if you cannot afford 12 euro per month for hobby/game where you spend 10-50% of your day, then you need to stop playing and go search a new job with a bigger salary or apply to the university if you can or things will get worse for you every day.

okay, now about innova, even if you give them money, service wont change.. its going to be even worse. i added 75 euro same day when they launched their payment system, but i bought it for a wrong account, i was lvling twinks for adena and forgot to relogin my main acc, same day i opened a support ticket on 16th of dec., don't want to tell you the whole story but i still didnt get any normal reply from them, no help, no chat, nothing.
regarding the launcher, this is the worst launcher i ever saw in my life, so much headache and still its not protected vs bots, visit any bot website 99% people know how to launch bot on innova. i came here with my friends because they told me there will be no bots here, or at least less bots.

and i think everything from this list is true:

1, general greediness and short sighted direction:
refusing to buy/open second server.
refusing to motivate and fight for ncwest customers, no attempts to crowd as many eu servers as possible.
overpriced items with unworthy rewards.
overpriced premium account.
2, amateurish presentation of company:
unprofessional press releases ( cleaning dust from server instead of patch notes )
dear deer ... we dont know anythink .. we will inform u soon that nothing has changed about us not knowing it.
delays, unsuccessfull server start
general knowledge of moderators
general presentation of moderators
lack of content of website
3, technical problems
server lags / dc problems/ shot lags
website launcher related errors
badly programmed launcher based on absolete c++ runtimes at launch
bad / incomplete translation of premium shop items ( vita replenishing pot does not info about 10 minutes instead of 30 etc)