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Discussion in 'Archive 2.0' started by Nemesys, Jan 19, 2012.

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  1. tommaso

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    you think this is a bigger advantage over having maximum casting speed, ~500 more p.def. and a lot more cp/hp/mp (depends on wearing s duals +4 or health weapon) ? do you realize what is the most common damage-dealing class in god ? yes, it's nukers, and now even more powerful and deadly, as there wasn't any equivalent of song of warding given in new buffs, and the warrior harmony and daring sonata lowering your m.def. even ridiculously more. and we end up with a situation, that many dd's got less m.def. than they used to get before god, but now conditions are changed, nukers got their skills with more power and are able to 1-shot on higher lvls. so what warriors are left with ? they choose to have somewhat better combat abilities with knight's or warrior's harmony, but then they lack m.def., their skills re-use longer (and now it's more significant, as tyrrs and rogues got their re-use time on skills raised even more), if they choose wizard harmony, they lack p.atk. and crit.dmg. which lowers a lot their killing ratio, while nukers are stacked and ready to go all the time. imho it's not an issue of some old "combo songs" being op but "a little" disbalance between mystics and warriors, which should be reconsidered by developing team.
     
  2. Umbarabumba

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    u forgot wizard harmony is decreasing pdef
    we cant talk about 1 hit kills anymore, u have lot more hp/cp than before
    1700 or 1999 cast speed makes no difference when u r capped by skill reuse delay which is a lot higher than b4 4th class change, the only significant difference for healers was solo farm, nothing more
    dual s +4 or health weapon wasnt rly so good for party play, compared to requiem weapon it was ~500 restored hp points difference by heals

    so first u r complaining healers had more pdef bcuz of light set, now they can have even more pdef in robe set, lot higher mdef and same skill reuse - those stats are a lot higher and more important than benefits from light armor mastery previously on healers

    i understand u r defending it bcuz u use it same way as we do but the fact is its ******ed and shall be changed
     
  3. telez

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    songs+warrior=36% -.-

    anyways its awesome to see that are still people that dont know the difference between "change" and "fix"
     
  4. Sirien

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    +1 couldn't say it better .

    exp ***** untagged abusers (guess who ) gonna cry and defend it .
     
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  5. Adamaris

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    there is a simple reason why they should fix this just like they fixed healer light mastery, orcs don't have dances therefor everyone is not on equal conditions.

    i don't know why you get to do stuff like this, they should replace all your old skills directly once you complete awakening and buggers wouldn't exploit these kind of "bugs".
     
  6. Delios

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    you guys should quit game.
    god update is very dan gerous for your life.
    you will die of dehydration after sheeding all those tears when you will face:
    tyrr warrior with +20 duelist spirit
    iss with songs
    de feoh with arcane power and empoweric echo
    kamael with cooldown reduction
    elf feoh with cancel
    and more
     
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  7. Umbarabumba

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    i have already met half of them in my party and still have the same opinion about it
     
  8. Sirien

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    its epic that u continue like this , since ppl that use them say they are exploits and should be removed ,
    u should just stfu and go exp untagged with ur exploit buffs :)
     
  9. Umbarabumba

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    actually its not an exploit, its just ******ed :)
     
  10. Delios

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    all your "haxes" have been explained, you do not have any more points.



    just for your info: we were retagging.
    like, you know, penalty does not allow you to be in new clan.

    stop being mad coz one grp killed 2 sissy grps.

    you dont like god? blame developers and quit game.
    protip: innova is not l2 developer.
     
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  11. Sirien

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    wtf u didnt explain me sth , i didnt know , still ur lack of arguements is epic .
    keep hiding behind videos from youtube like a 12yo
     
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  12. Delios

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    u didnt explain me why its all cheats, ur lack of arguments is epic.
    keep hiding behind logic like you have never played l2.
     
  13. Sirien

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    lets go again , 80% of ppl plays with normal iss buffs >> discrimination
    cps that have orc enchanter cant have them >> discrimination
    well if its never gonna be fixed , just inform all orc enchanters to reroll and
    disable the creation of new orc mystic chars .


    chewed food for kid's mind : the whole problem isnt that you stack them , no sir
    the world is not spinning around u , the problem is that not all chars can have them , so
    that makes op the people that use them and the game gets unfair .
    imagine sth like that only 2-3 cps in whole server could have iss buffs , while whole other server
    uses the ordinary buffs , fair ? not
     
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  14. Funreal

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    dude seriously, you are more ******ed than hax on this forum and that is something, really
     
  15. Sirien

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    serious business arguement , by another abuser i suppose :)
     
  16. Funreal

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    explain me, how can you abuse something that is made by game developers? its not a bug, its how the developers wanted it
     
  17. Sirien

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    says who ? :)

    p.s. where did i hear that again ? oh yes in light armor mastery on healers .
    what happened ? oh yes they fixed it .
     
  18. Funreal

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    when do you start to notice diffrence between obvious bug(1999 c.speed in light w/o acu weapon? srsly?)
    and simple leaving old buffs which in fact are not really that op if you can do some math....
     
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  19. elyts

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    whatever you want to call it its an obvious game design flaw and should be fixed, all old skills should be auto unlearn so the game would be truly balanced, rhythms/powind/various other old skills give you the edge over someone who cant/doesnt use it, if anyone denies it hes either stupid or lying

    i would like to know if innova is even considering looking into the matter at hand and giving us some answers asap, cause theres alot people (including myself) considering rerolling or even quitting
     
  20. Funreal

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    who said you can't use it? who said you can't make bd/sws, awaken it into enchanter and not buy wiz harmony so you have old disco? tell me who is this person who said you canno't do that?!
    oh wait, noone! kkthbb

    in other words: your point is invalid.

    have a fluttershy
    [​IMG]
     
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