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Patch Notes for Harmony Update

Discussion in '2011 ~ 2017' started by Fahrenheit, Mar 13, 2012.

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  1. owen12

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    when mentor will be implement?
     
  2. Gilby

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    sorry my bad found it.
     
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  4. Lyvien

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    they realize they make a mistake with this unbound item and full piece reward from quest, but sundlely cut it of increasing the materliar for normal crafth and decreasing the drop from monster of pounch is only a way to say " u are new player? it's your problem ". for me, as new player, it's realy stupid pacth. older player that have drop and full set have too much advantage on newer one. like always ncs think on preserving ppl on his game instead of helping new one.

    till now ppl asa they reach lvl 85 have full set r for around 20kk i realy want to see how mucth it will cost to a new player.
     
  5. lisail

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    and without the mentor system?lets just say this game will be dead before tauti arrives.

    btw my vitality ends in ~20 minutes so i never got a pouch to begin with past 85.so meh to that!
     
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    kamael still don't gather souls through crittical hits. why they make feoh's keep checkmate, instead of fixing the races basics?
     
  7. Lyvien

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    mentoring sitem is an hard think to deal with imo.

    consider the fact:

    1) this game offer a f2p server based almost enterely on the exp bonus by payment, pa and fashion item. implementing mentoring could:

    - give a too huge boost on shopper
    - kill the exp for money trade, and this mean that innova have to compesate introducing other item in the shop that can destroy the balance late game ( that actually is quite good for a f2p, look at nc and theyr r-grade scroll destruction )

    2) shop interaction:

    -actually the best way a new player have to interact with the game economy is the 50k for iss buff, even if seem few that money help late game trade. iplementing mentor make unseless buy buff and will kill any interaction with other player till level 85+.

    3) again pa will be too much advanced.

    - rise up a new pg with a mentee sistem and a dual pa willl be realy easy ppl can start to farm mentee poin and complete an lvl 85 in 1 week or 2. this will give realy huge help to shopper.

    and there are a lot of other minor issue, i think this comunity have to think 2 or 3 time before ask in every tread about mentee sistem and the vantage that will come with it ( i see only disvantage ).

    reganding the patch, i dunno if innova want to follow ncs rule but in order to not kill your game i realy hope u make a step bak for us new player increasing insted of decreasing the drop for r pounch. ncs have a 10 year comunity on her back u guys have only a few mount player, fully implement this change will make a lot of people leave the game and will kill any new player income. do u realy think u have a sufficien numerous comunity to fully implemente the change we are talking about?

    so it's up to u innova.

    1) change a little the patch note to help new player, new player = more ppl = change to have more money
    2) mantein the patch note as ncs, no new player = only alredy high farmed user = prob less money

    we are not korean we love pvp more than pve and u are killing this aspect for new player

    make something that ncs has been never able to do ... listen to the comunity.

    think about the fact that a patch interaction with us ( comunity ) could be a realy huge step forward and that can lure more ppl from ncs to innova.
     
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    i barely understand what you said but ill try to answer:

    1)mentoring is integral part of the game now.elemental stones were severely nerfed in god so the best way to get them is trough the mentor system.
    its always better to have another player as mentee as opposed to your second account.mentor system has no effect past 86 when grind actually starts so your point is moot.

    2)i would advise iss enchanters to go hunt monsters like the rest of us who cant sell buffs.atleast your shots dont cost 800 per cast (meaning every monster i kill brings me closer to bankruptcy)

    3)paying 12 euro a month is infact more than some p2p games out there!i would think pa players deserve something for keeping this server open.everything you buy with mentee coins is bound to your character and most players can make more just grinding (not to mention they also get xp)
     
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    1) in harmony the stone can be farmed more easely since the reward from quest give r-grade hardener pouches that have an high chance to give stone.

    2) i'm not a iss but why u want to kill game economy? i have an item, i don't need it, i sell it ..... who buy it if i ask 100kk and none have money to buy it?

    3) actually pa sistem is quite fair in term of price - reward give pa more advance will make a lot of ppl leave do u want a game with 100 pa user or a game with 1000 ppl with 80 pa? only change in would make on pa is remove the bound from some item, like u say. givin them the chance to have more adena, but nothing more.
     
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    lol clueless ppl,actually reducing the drop of items and pocuhes r95/r99 is good for the new players,since every party 95+ will get zillions of adena till lowbies hit the same lvl and can start to farm the same places.and ofc older players and nolifers will have advantage over the new ones,what you expect to start 3 months after server launch and to be among the top players or what ?l2 was always about grinding and time you spend playing it and it will remain like that,deal with it.
     
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    1)yeah 1 of them.do you know they have 60% fail chance?

    2)is buffs are not items.past 86 the only way to level is in full party in which an iss is present anyway.

    3)right 12 euros is a fair price for 2x xp.you gotta be kidding me!double xp only means that you get half drops/adena per level compared to others nothing else!since you level in full party only outleveling your cp could be a big problem.in korea most players have hit 99 because its so easy to level.

    btw am i the only person who saw this? elixirs are now impossible to get as a reward;

    this might make aden reconstruction useful.
     
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  12. Warzone

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    •it is not possible to use skill "bear-provoking" by wynn summoner's summon cute bear in order to provoke other players to attack. gratz all summmoners.
     
  13. mus1ek

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    remember hellbound? remember interlude? remember c4!?
    there was hard to get items.. now? pfff..
     
  14. Nirvi

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    but someone got it easy, and now u have to farm for it.
     
  15. mikrobz

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    what easy? everyone who haven't made q could have bought top+low armor for like 60-70kk they were the cheapest parts and it is good that drop got reduced again,couse too many 90+ runing in full r95 and that's a disbalance in daily life
     
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    koreans were drunk when they fcked up quests thats the only logical explanation i see :d
     
  17. Ps2004

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    looks like i've been lucky to do my first istina yesterday night xd
     
  18. mus1ek

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    koreans were drunk when they added almost full sets as a revards first time and such a crazy item drop rate killing great craft system that way..
     
  19. Adventure

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    ncsoft has just proven to be most careless, not to call it worse and insult them, company. first they flood market with easy-crafted, quest-obtained and obsessive-dropping top items, easy to obtain for old players (old servers) and sprinters (new servers), and then they decrease it to screw up new players...
    gz ncomment

    thank you innova staff for detailed info.
     
  20. Warzone

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    this.now they are just trying to fix the mess they did before.
     
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