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you are just scared because u can clearly see from troy fraps that ba entered first.

 

g ********** g.

"bs entered first"

r o f l

 

whatever problem appear on this server, we never get clear answers. i'm sorry roonove that we ask gm's questions for what they are payed. you must understand its their job to give us answers on our questions, even if those answers will show that we are wrong. people must understand that this server can't stand 200 wolfs, and in anytime we (players from core) can summon 200 wolfs and we will **** up the server npc.
gm's know those problems and they don't do anything to fix those problems.
only what we ask is to do job for what they are payed, and to give us answers on our questions.

 

i'm not, gms can do whatever they want, but if you're gonna demand logs in 1 moment and 2 paragraphs later say you don't trust gms and they take sides, you're contradicting yourself, the logs are simply text-based, anyone can edit them, it's based on 1) credibility 2) feasibility. why would you ask logs from someone you don't trust, if you don't want to take them on their word in any case?

 

you can keep asking questions, and you should, it should be your duty as a paying customer, but at same time, if you're trying to undermine what they say while asking questions, that's just cynicism at its finest.

 

did i say something what is not correct ?
answer me isn't a joke that players can crush server with wolfs?
and what they do to fix those problems ?
sorry but i don't see myself anywhere with that "cynicism"

 

it is completely different to have a gm just posting something without a care in the world and single-handedly modifying a server log. it could be checked in the future with different gms in different ways, not to mention that editing server logs would possibly put his job at risk.

it has a lot more weight than just posting casually here in this thread. it has absolutely nothing to do with "trust".

 

thanks for ur efford, but everyone with a basic it knowlegde know that the programs don't work as expected sometimes, no matter what the programmer says to the user. in my oppinion the fact that more that 200 ppl entered can consider the dragon bugged which leads to the possibility for the loot to be bugged also. i dont know if the server concidered 1st and 2nd cc as one or smth similar. so the most proper thing to do in this case (imo) is to delete the loot or to give it to the cc that actually did the efford. remember - the developers are kinda "sellers", ofc the "product" will be perfect. regards to everyone.

 

i started hitting it right after it appeared, got rez+up after the movie.

 

you make a good point actually, i wonder how long those kind of logs stay.

 

guys,

unfortunately, we cannot publish the logs as they contain parts of game's code. we simply have no right to do it.
but i can tell you that, there is a .4 second gap between bs and ba entering the raid zone.

as for the question about timing, the cc that gets inside the raid zone first gains the looting rights, but the timer won't go until the raid starts with the first attack on the boss.

a couple more answers came from nc soft:

 

good. so basically we have video evidence of ba entering first and you are telling me otherwise.

great job, keep it up.

 

as i said... you ask for 'logs'/info to say they're wrong.
/facepalm

 

at this point it's not worth it to continue the discussion
since you are here what about trasken? i guess thats 100% legit too

 

did you saw logy's video with slow motion? where we enter first? answer to that please.

 

and you should behave like a member. if game master (explaination here) says that bs has been inside first and it is known from game logs, why you still want to convince everyone that it was different?

deal with it, bs's leader has more agile hands and was in faster, maybe others must train it.

and this is called propaganda™(alarion's property).

and i warn you sleepers to spread any false statetements like you just did. there is no difference whether you are from blackswans, blackangel, redguard or any other clan member - you are always treated in same way and all rules applies for everyone without any exceptions.

i expect to see no false statements.

regards and have fun in game!!

 

i'm sorry to repeat my sefl but

 

of course you will never believe or accept the truth because you are the side on the lost position and your pride will never let you say "ok bs you were faster... gf".

and i have never stated any arguments. i only explained you what just pazak said but you will never believe.

what would give you print screen of data ? "unreal engine hates ba/rg and let bs win" ?

 

one point more :

why ba cc had the looting rights too ? (because, nobody will kill a boss if he don't have looting right.)

this + more than 200 ppl in (known issue) is a real problem, and must clearly by fixed for next raid.

the only clue we had, that something weird was happening, is that they wasn't ported out.

 

why u all r so ******ed
explane plx gms or moderators
cc bs didnt enter 1st acording to moovie troy -its clearly
cc bs didnt entered whith full force (not all was ported inside) -but ba/rg did have all in
and yet you r trying to say that gap is 4 !!!! secunds?
not to mentioned that maximo (ba cc leader) had loot rites
if ppl enetered inside obove 200 ppl -instance is bugged and nothing u say/cheked is valid--and if you said buy you'r self it a bug -why items/exp/q items r not take back(deleted)?