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  1. QUinter

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    hi can anyone help me with deciding what dyes i should use on Evi , i would wondering if should go +15 str -6 dex or should try not to lose dex? or go +15 dex??
     
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    +STR+CHA is best option since cha will add some pdef/mdef/hp/cp/patk/atkspeed/critrate, want cheapest go +5str-2/3dex but reducing dex will result in loosing crit rate (which u should try to keep at 500) u can allways go focus on wep, but that reduces dmg also, u should have 2sa (crit dmg 7-8%, +crit dmg 3/4% and patk)
    evis is crit based melee char, so u must with all means increase crit dmg/rate and only patk on him (ofc pvp/oly there are other things to consider)
     
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    well i dont have adena to buy +5+cha dyes :D so im trying to think with most cheap way thats why said +5 str - dex .. so i can balance but thx anyways :)
     
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    Go +5 str -xx adena and focus on weapon. Like this you have equal terms.
     
  5. QUinter

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    well i wanted to get shadow pve weapon witch cost about 6b but was caring what dyes best suited for me :) anyways thx for answers
     
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    for 6b its better to take apo +12 2sa, and even have some leftovers to catch 15% crit dmg augu.. and that will be 2x better than those pve fists
     
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    Apo +12 2SA is better then Shadow First? Really? (I'm asking w/o argu)
     
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    try it.. 1 patk lower on shadow, 2 good sa+crit dmg augu is better than options that are on shadow, +12 (8.4% ss dmg) counters that 10% pve dmg.. SO YEA +12 b apo 2sa +crit dmg augu is better than shadow dmg wise

    ofc there's another factor about shadow u can trasnfer it to boxes while with augu u cant, so if playing 1 char and want to be stronger then apo>shadow, if have 1000500000 evises and 1gear for all then shadow>apo
     
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    And what is the best double SA to put on Fist?
     
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    cheap version 3x +4str/+3cha, can be +2 cha, those is cheaper. -dex is bad idea.
     
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    If your crit chance is low: death + critical death.
    If your crit is ok: death + speed death.
     
  12. QUinter

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    woow Snowyz u still here?? are u GM of forum now or smth ? :D
     
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    he is guru of all possible and impossible class.. he know things, and he drink warm milk. :))
    btw for max crit rate on 102 with normal buffs i miss <10..
    i have 6lvl critical death and 7lvl speed death SA.. also passive 15% crit dmg augment.
    when i put dex talisman i have 500, without dex i miss some.. didn't have longing.. maybe those 2dex will be enough, but not sure.
    and for shadow fists.. they are good on low lvl... solo kartia, and ofc useful on higher level, but i easy do more dmg than evi with shadow fists and same gear.. that was with +6 helios fighter (not blessed and 1 sa)
     
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    What you mean warm milk D:?
     
  15. QUinter

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    every time someone asks smth , snowyz always answer i feel like he knows all and try spread his wisdom that's why I ask if he is GM in the forum now , so he spread his knowledge to all :D
     
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    Haha, just try to help.
     
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    Why no one speaks about attack speed? Ok, SM gives a lot, but 3/4 of the time I am without SM. Or anyone else, but me have no problem hitting max? Or no one cares about damage outside SM? :D

    I use fury and death on my fighter. I like to have max attack speed without SM, and fury SA on my weapon allows this. Stage 5 fury vs fury death SA: I think 8% attack speed 3/4 of the times > 3% crit damage. To make up for the 8% I would need +10+ DEX more, that I can only do on the expense of STR. I think that would hurt my damage more than the lack of 3% crit damage.

    You can easily try the effect of the +5 dyes with the +5 PA talis or the currently available event ones.
    DEX dyes are not that great on Evi, because we only benefit from basic stat increase of it. It's about 10 crit rate and 40 attack speed per 5 DEX. Not worth it.
    STR dyes all the way. More p.attack is more damage. About 2,5% p.attack per 5 STR.

    EDIT: So the best SAs and best Dyes are the ones, that can get you max crit rate, attack speed, and the highest possible crit damage and p.attack for your current equipments.
    If you lack a little bit of crit rate, and still need fury/fury death in your fists for high attack speed, I would go for crit rate hat instead crit death SA.
     
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