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Siege 21/08/2016 - Ecarlate vs NF, SK, Covenant, DDZ - paper healer edition

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  1. S3lf Destruct

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    Hello all again

    I would like to present you another paper healer fraps (this time aeore cardinal) from the Siege on 21/08/2016 with fights taking place at Goddard and Giran, with Ecarlate fighting versus NakedForce, SkyHunters, Covenant and at the end also DDZ.

    Party setup wasn't the best since we didn't have a tank.

    Your advices are always welcome - I know I play bad.
    (I also know I spam group heal a lot - will remove it from bar!!!) - ENJOY

     
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  2. zauliuz

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    nicely covered parts where rg pets come for help.
     
  3. S3lf Destruct

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    Actually i didn't cut or covered anything - just some small parts at the end of the fights to fit in with the music - this is almost all the PVP activity the party had at the siege this Sunday (didn't fraps when we crested Goddard because just 3 NF in castle) - i have 1h and 50 min of frapses and the only times we met RG are noted below.

    Regarding RG helping:

    - our party met them 1st time at Goddard after your gates went down - they were killing us also (you can see in the fraps) but we had to PR because SK was rushing our castle (i think they broke all your crystals but you reset it)
    - 2nd time we met them was near the end of the siege when i think 1-2 parties were @ Goddard (owned by us) - we didn't engage them because we thought they want to take it
    - i heard they were fighting NF/SK in gorgon flower garden - didn't hide the clan chat you can see it there

    As RG was breaking your castle crystals same for TH on Giran - considering the way you think it means you had ally with TH no?
    I watched your NF tank fraps (he deleted his post here) and i don't see that Ecarlate + RG anywhere.
     
  4. iRuthless

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    Come on, RG follow us almost all the time, you both came from different sides at the same time to our castle, RG was DEFENDING Godard when YOUR box clan Carmin was the owner, too many coincidences, regarding TH they were how much time on Giran ? 2 min till EN came ? and we pr when they came you can see that on video too, is okey see you next Siege.
     
  5. Seivlas

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    Self is in my CP, and I was in the party also. What happened :

    ->"Only" RG impact is that you weren't unable to get back your castle. When they were in Goddard, the only other person here was my box (clan leader of Carmin). If they weren't here, I don't think that my box would have prevented you from cresting back.

    -> You don't see often RG in the video because we didn't see often RG. We switched between attacking your castle (my party hitting you from the back because we're courageous we use tactics :D) to defend ours.

    -> I'd say that TH/EN episode didn't really matter, as they were both really quick to come/go

    -> My party had to PR at goddard because we were rushed by RG also (I had the castle with my box at this moment, still no idea what really happened, probably you made them mad ?)


    My intuition : you made RG mad, and they just wanted to see you without castle. I'm just really sad that fights cannot just end with a "gf, see you next sieges", I mean, we didn't ***** out during the finale of Euro when I had to lead 20 people against SH + NF + Covenant + w/e at schutgart when we lost our castle, you can check my posts. Once again, whatever floats your boat man.
     
  6. Padj1l

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    Well it's true that it gave us some air when they came in gorgon flower to kill you guys, yet it was not planned or an agreement between us, it's just that apparently they don't like you, I guess because of those flames after some pvps we could see in world chat ? Anyway they stayed there for like 20 mins I guess and then went to your castle, which you decided not to defend anyway. TH didn't stay long ( a bit more than 2 mins as you see in the vid) but it was them who destroyed our 2nd crystal and denied us the ability to rez. Probably you would have done it yourself but maybe not as fast. Reason we came from different sides at your castle is we were on our way to attack you and Rg arrived on our back, so we PRed and went to the other side to avoid sandwich.

    Anyway, was a fun siege full of action, maybe the best I personally had in a long time, so gf everyone see you in 2 weeks, gonna be hard for us with all your clans registered.

    Good job self, keep the fraps coming ! And seivlas I want to see your PoV !
     
  7. iRuthless

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    You are serious about "gf" ?? that endend after your clan mates stop saying GF after pvp and talked too much from boxes and mains, so dont blame us friend, your "honorable" clan broke that :D
     
  8. Seivlas

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    You should screen and send them to me, as I didn't see any flame from us toward you.
     
  9. S3lf Destruct

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    They followed you almost all the time and yet in 1 hour and 20 min of the fraps that i edited for this movie (with the speed up and the parts i cut for inactivity and to synchronize with music) i see them only 1 time - i double checked to see if we met them and I didn't notice.

    Did you actually watch the fraps? In 40 min of speed up fraps you can see RG for 2 minutes killing us also. Besides the fight inside Goddard castle it's only us vs NF / SK / Covenant and DDZ at the end.

    TH was inside our castle for ~ 6 minutes, good enough time to break all crystals besides the one in the crest room so we couldn't res anymore - advantage to your your ally.

    Yes cya at next siege (we will probably lose it considering the amount of clans in your ally that will be registered to our castle).
     
  10. Leckter

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    There is room for improvements...
    Tbqh I lost interest after few minutes, so I cannot talk that much, but still, imho you should focus on two simple talks :

    - Cleanse debuffs. mother ******* cleanse. As a start consider useless to land a single heal on a debuffed target, it will get killed one shotted anyway. You cannot outheal a one shotted target. Then once your fingers learn the cleanse mechanic, start to get a sense of what should be absolutly cleansed or not. You can feel really fast a difference on how easy it can be to keep a party alive (or not).

    - Prioritize your healed targets. You're spamming panic like crazy on a target who got half CP off (maybe an AoE), while your next member get wrecked by an obvious assist (hello 10 debuffs). Or you panic on an archer (hello flash, hello hide, hello jump), while your 2nd healer gets heavily focused and is in trouble. You don't have a single clue what target to heal first, and that's probably why you spam group heal like a "******". It takes away the choice you HAVE to make. It's convenient, but inefficient and bad. Try to think every second "which target I should heal and why". It's easy for some people, harder for others. You clearly have to work on that.

    My two cents, from someone who didn't really play healer, so that's like very basic stuff :)

    PS : noblesse ffs, ask EN or TH how that works
     
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  11. Joshy

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    Nop we had 0 arrengement with RG on that siege sorry to disapoint you ;)
    But i must admit something we didn't take a care about RG, we attacked them only if they were too close from our castle.
    20 Min before the siege end, we took your castle sneaky waye with 1 PT, at that moment we send half our force to goddard and prevent you to take it back and still defend our castle.... but we saw some RG coming to goddard and no NF, so order changed to "IF NF dont come and RG want the castle, let them took it and come back defand ours"
    So the goal was to remove your castle, IF it was for our box or for RG, we didn't care and that why only RG was at goddard... and i still dont know why they didn't took it :p
    5 Min befor the siege end, we go to goddard see what happend because we didn't had any news for like 10 min, and some RGs was there yes and attacks us, but we didn't fight and go PR ^^"
     
  12. zauliuz

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    some rg means 3 groups on gates and rest ~4-5 groups on field? yep. "some rg"
     
  13. Vonak

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    I don't know what did you do to piss them off, we have war with them and they don't do anything they can to ruin our sieges : x
     
  14. DefNotMits

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    Who is nakedforce clan leader?
     
  15. Seivlas

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    Buddy, we have no idea about how many RG there were, we were not fighting where they were. The 2 times we saw them we already told you, were : when we were in Goddard (we fought like 20s then PRed, we used our skills previously and were going to be wiped out without being able to give a proper fight), and in the end when my party was roaming around Goddard castle and we saw a horde rushing us. We also PRed this time.

    Mravec, nice guy. (to find him, look on the battlefield the 2 smallest chars, normally it's him and his healer (hello Amolee) :D)
     
  16. Vonak

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    Mravec i think?
     
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    Same kind of strategy u used this siege i guess. Specially 3:50.
     
  18. Padj1l

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    What do you mean lonnie ?
     
  19. Kym Willer

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    Neither we had half of those groups looool
     
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