NakedForce or Ecarlate?

Well, I reread once again this whole wall of flame those 5 last pages of the forum were, and I still don't find any point that would prove we, Ecarlate, lost our "values".

Don't get me wrong, I'm in no point assuming that YOU lost your values. As I said before, I never was in NF, so I cannot judge what it was/is/will be.

 

why so mad mengz? it's just a game .. relax .. life is beautiful <3 i love you all <3

after last sieges i am pretty sure ecarlate is a better choice than nf, judging by tactics used on the siege grounds. yes, we lost the castle in the end, but i still think it was a good fight.

 

Well Seivlas im not going to be taking screens every time a Ecarlate member insult/flame us in game because i dont care, but i dont know if you really believe that your clan doesnt do it or dont want to accept it, the true is that you have some members with "values" but some others dont, just ask BlackMamba(or something like that) from ShadowsOfSoul, that guy insult my CP so many times that at the end is funny,

 

Hum, I know this name. I think I'll speak with someone ^^

 

You got insulted in this game? :S this is so unusual :S

 

Is not about being insulted because I know this game is full of kids, was about that Ecarlate was a clan that didnt insult other people and now is not like that anymore (not all members)

 

It's like this in every clan i think, simple flames are fun but then at some point ppl can't handle or control it and they go on full insult mode, just dont take it personal

 

That's mainly why we are banning flame in our clan, we know that it'll always be the same thing : small flame, then bigger, bigger, bigger, and eventually full flame war. We have principles, and want them to be respected, otherwise, as you said Adrian, "It's like this in every clan". I think that what made Ecarlate alive for almost 20 years is that it's not like in every clan. Or at least that's what I believe, and try my best to make it respected (well, except scammers, but the 2 I know are perfectly aware of the high esteem I've for them )

 

I really don't understand why to flame so hard. Basic old l2 flames like "wow, you couldn't kill a pt with half boxes?", "gf, 7x14", "you had double gear and we killed you so easy?", and etc. But now it's family, win at all costs even if you lose, wall of texts saying how bad the enemy is and how was lucky of them for winning, excuses for defeat and etc. It's that hard just to say "gf" or a normal flame just to make it funny?

 

So first a grand speech about respect and whatnot and then boom all went south when you mentioned 2 known scammers who are still in your clan (or are they not?)

 

I heard they're scammers too, but to do any action you need proof.

 

Out of curiosity, who are those white knights we speak of?

 

2 Scammers : none are in the clan anymore, do not worry about it.

1st one : RagingWizard (you can also meet him as Skepta and/or ToySoldier). I've screenshots (the fact he scammed me helps). He was expelled as soon as we discovered it.

2nd one : Khrysis. Left the clan few months ago, but a member trusted him enough to share some "private information". Guess this member was wrong...

When I spoke about respect Preslav, I wasn't wrong. For scammers, you cannot know who they are. I mean, if a guy comes to you with everything about him screaming "Scammer", you won't give him anything, so he won't scam anything. There is nothing wrong with having in the past a scammer, if you kicked him as soon as you knew he was one. But welcoming one/protecting one IS wrong, and will bring to your clan a reputation that no clan wants to have.

It reminds me the signature of someone on the forum (maybe was Yolai, not sure tho') : "the sad thing about betrayal is that it only comes from your friends". Behind a screen, everyone can be whoever he chooses to be. Some decides to be trustworthy, others choose to be *******s.

 

Okay, good to know. Lets hope no one welcomes them in their ranks. At least you kick scammers which is good and all, and not keeping them like a clan we all know always breeds and protected them. Yeah well one can never be sure so better don't trust than mistrust.

 

That's a life lesson you often learn the hard way ^^

 

I liked the picture

Sadly it's irrelevant, as Preslav isn't Ecarlate ^^

 

The guy in the picture saying "now kiss" is Henerik right ? he look like him so much :>

 

that's absolutely bull**** Ecarlate are going pvp no matter vs who, NakedForce brings 14 ppl if they lose 7v7, I pvp'd vs them soo many times, I know them, they are just trash

 

yep.. archer dagger with pvp weapons add 2 more healers and active iss and gg. but atleast some of them have respect points for not port on hide, and bsoe when hide is fading.. )))