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  1. Rnika

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    Many of you always argue who is better
    everyone calling others donators cheaters go on go on...
    But you never have any evedence.

    Mayeb put here any evedence other side is cheating, is RMT...

    Always only empty words

    also TH speaking all time about en propaganda.
    Maybe tell us how many stacked players like archer healers daggers you have, and how many other side have? Put them by nick, and what eq he have. by that we can really check what side is better equiped. and by that have better chance to win, and that will be shame to sall other side donators ect...
    if EN have 20 yuls stacked nad TH 20 yuls that is pure skill, if one have 10 and others 40 that shouldn be so much happy ti win with 40 stacked yuls...
    so go on who have more donators and cheaters in clan show has begun!
     
  2. S4nDm4N

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    Did i win already?
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  3. Rnika

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    SURE!

    here is yours reward !

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    Tyvm Sir
     
  5. Hax

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    I dont know too much yet but:

    Number wise EN has an advantage but not too big of an advantage.
    Reference: Sieges last time were around equal numbers. Ramona raid yesterday EN had 61 ppl and TH 40.

    Equipment EN has an clearer advantage.
    Reference: ENs Top Party has highest gear on server and is also deemed strongest cp currently. TH is good geared too ofc but biggest difference here is: ENs average gear (low parties still have pvp weapons and set etc.) is quite a bit higher than TH (THs low parties barely have pvp weapons or sets).

    quality i cant judge.
    feel free to disagree
     
  6. iVoid

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    The only thing i disagree is numbers overall (im not commenting on last night's ramona or anything).

    It's easy simply next siege post a 2-3 seconds video clicking refresh button on CC from both sides and u will see that we dont have number advantage. Maybe you are not 30+more but still you have a bit more.
     
  7. MrOurk

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    Numbers more or less are the same, specially in important fights such as castle sieges I would say number are kinda equal.
    As about equipment, well TH is farming gainak uncontested for 2-3 years already, farming also 101-103 raids, anakims and liliths, while EN are farming pvp castle stones + usually a couple more of heroes than TH aswell as dragons usually, top TH CP have the most OE bow atm and 2 of the most OE sets but I'd say EN top CP have a bit more of gear compared to them as about low pt's both clans have low pt's w/o full pvp weapons / full pvp sets.
    Last but not least about quality, both clans are making huge mistakes on all kind of pvps but i'd say it's more or less balanced for the moment, one clan win couple of fights, then the other clan wins another couple of fights
     
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    Not all cps in EN have pvp weapons. My cp have 0 pvp weap for example.( and some others only 1 )So gear is more or less balanced, EN have maybe a bit more but if you look at especific cp's, clan gear overall is more or less the same, between boths clans.
     
  9. Anxxonymous

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    What is the aim of the topic ? I mean who cares about what EN/TH have in clan ? L2 always have been empty words and propaganda after a victory.

    Results speaks : lately you see wins from both side that's all.

    For the rest , you just have to play a bit on server if you want to be aware of things.

    Useless topic.
     
  10. iSTOMPquakez

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    All top th pts miss 1 or 2 DDs while EN have full pts + olimpiad is won for EN atm, also there are alot of wasted items on useless ppl in TH while in EN is a bit better
     
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    I think lowest geared people in TH are much worse equipped than in EN, many former players from lower clans with little gear. On the other hand EN manages to recruit the best parties from these clan, well done EN !
     
  12. Anxxonymous

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    Sorry I'm not the one around that sounds like a zombie !

    Nothing is working , you're just a typical kid that needs to talk about real life to feel important. Leave the grown people argueing properly.

    Please mods just erase this topic !
     
  13. Rnika

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    Maybe Mod erase your brain. I can make topic as i was. Only oyu here have a problem with that. You are biggest clown on server. You are in omnislash circus or you going to assazhi circus? you fit to them both.

    Make a topic becouse you want to make a some discuss that what player at server are good what clan have more better geared ppl.
    Maybe becouse i didnt mention mages you are mad cause you are nooone ons erver and noone will mention you ?

    angry anxi will come and spread sh it around every where just becouse he doint like topic. Tisama making EN in best light ever.
    Dont like topic cry in topic then cry about erase topic even if he didnt put any value here.
     
  14. Anxxonymous

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    Cool story , say more please.

    Idc about what people say about me just stay at your place and do not talk too big.

    I'm so bad that people that I played or I'm playing with are keeping me in CP while I had no OP gear and playing feoh. So much logyc.

    Omni and Assazhi are way more interesting than you , because first of all their voice are valuable since they are pvping. So they are much more qualified to speak about it.

    Once more , your topic is useless.

    Btw keep insulting me, you'll learn respect maybe once in your life. Also it will close your topic, 2eznogf forum too easy.
     
  15. Takanodan

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    my cp is lf dd..

    pm "wTakanodan.. :p
     
  16. Rnika

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    They are mor qualified? So you speak about respect and you dont respect everyone who are not pvping.
    while you had NO OP GEAR? PvP set, pvp weapon, full epic jewelery. Now you sold in on RMT with your full cp you sold all from everyone and now you back begging for attention i see. Going to put another 2k posts?
    Anxi logic
    Dont care = cry and spam as much as you can trying set someone by his disturbed vision and try erase topic!
     
  17. Anxxonymous

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    The only epic jewelry I got was Lindvior and it went back to RG cwh , you can ask @sh1ny about it.

    Pvp set And Pvp weapon , things I still have so dunno what fairy tales you dreamt about saying I rmted. I don't even have a baium.

    Also saying they are more qualified doesn't mean I don't respect people not pvping , it's just that for me their opinion are less valuable because they are speaking about things they don't know , but it's only my opinion and since you're so much caring about it , I'm giving it.

    Don't mix everything.
     
  18. andrius3022

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    Well do not know if such topic is going to give any results.. Both sides will claim theirs.

    I have been for more then 1 year in EvilNation, last 1.5 months I am in TheHorde. Both clans are more or less focused on PvP and of-course any other clan(s) in server could not stand against any of EN or TH. Who is 1st and who is 2nd.. well I guess it is quite obvious at the moment. EN claims more victories to their side and maybe there are many reasons why.

    From my perspective as TH and former EN I can say there is quite similar and at the same time completely different politics in both clan.
    Yes EN has better organised/better geared clan "core" (Kengaa, wTakanodan, Rewind, TheTruth CPs, etc. (sorry if forgot to mention some others, but there could be like 2 more) but yes, they have really strong CPs that are doing 75% of all job, especially Kengaa's CP. Lets be honest, I know and I am sure most of EN will agree - there would be no EN w/o Kengaa.
    TH has well geared people as well that are capable to play really good as well. The only problem for them that they are missing certain members to fill a gaps in their parties.
    About gear overall in clan - could be that EN has slight edge.
    Numbers - TH has more CPs/ppl in clan. Sadly a lot are way behind in gear, interest to play, etc (There are many CPs that not even 1 person has full PvP set, no PvP weapons, etc.
    But there is one huge difference in clan politics. Lets say Logy vs Kengaa.
    Kengaa is really focused in wining, he does not like to lose and do not tolerate if people are not interested in helping - so is Logy, but still Logy probably pushes people way less then Kengaa. He does not push people and probably many people are not hat much interested in wining stuffs like midnight Ramona or Antharas, go for 5am Lindvior, etc (that is why it is hard to make 3-5 parties in TH side after midnight, while EN has no trouble to come with 6-7+). People of-course could try to push harder but there is no need to try making them machines doing what they do not want/can't.
    It can also be represented by clan/CPs structure in both clans. It is well knows secret that last 1.5 years are archer-age and EN has 90% of DDs as archers, while there are plenty of tyrrs, daggers, feohs, evicerators in TH side. I am sure it helps a lot as well (that probbly comes from everything I mentioned before).
    Oly and heroes - EN has advantage here, that also gives huge advantage in siege/pvps.. (70%+ of time TH died in last siege was after hero fear).

    Maybe someone will say that I try to state that situation is not fair or Th is falling behind because of certain conditions (well at least I would :D )... No! both clans are good, both has its flaws and strengths. At the moment Kengaas' focus on winning is winning and I'm happy about that. If situation would change I do not want to stay fighting mobs and have atm no troubles being in "loosing side".
     
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    In my opinion there have never been and there will never be such thing in this game . I've seen it all. This game is all based about "momentum" . In that hour of the day one of the clans will have better activity and respectivly will win something . In other certain hour the 2nd clan will claim the win. Olympiad is something that is not so much clan based. What i mean is that there are people that are driven by someone else in order to get spot .There are people getting restarts (not blaming ,jsut stating). Olympiad at the moment is in my opinion 50% personal achievement, 25% gear, 25% clan. Cause no matter what gear u have ,if you **** u wont do anything and the opposite ,or for the non farming classes without restarts (tank ,healers i.e).

    Sieges are in my opinion the only place where you can get closely to the idea of clan vs clan and to see who'se better and that's only possible if we excluse facts like : who have the initial crest from previous week,who managed to no-life and keep the fort to port faster and many other factors.

    Conclusion is . In that current core situation ,is really hard to say who's who (winner/looser).
    On previous update when 1 archer could aoe your whole CC and wipe them untill a tank casts a UD ,was obvious who was the better clan.Now is different,but yet i think EN has advantage.
     
  20. Anxxonymous

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    Logy politics is simple instead of pushing players he is trying to fill the gaps by recruiting.

    TH was going for all those night dragons just because there was people pushing players.

    Well a player in the clan since already 1.5 month saw it.

    Btw Verb , you can't say EN wouldn't be EN without Kengaa since we can do the same statement about Riordian.
     
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