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  1. BeFair

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    Hi,

    the whole World talk about Energy savings, we are in the year 2017 and yet we cant have things which are easy to introduce on official Servers yet.
    Why we can not have "offline Shops" or even "offline Fishing" ? I know many would now QQ gtfo with ur private Server ****, but really where is the point in having ur computer whole night online just to sell some items ( yes u have AH for that, but uits not the same + u cant set AH Buyshop )
    Even for fishing it would be an solution, no? And why not? It would save tons of Energy and also on the other Hand alot of money which people spend into L2 store insteed of paying an Horror Electricity bill
    For Example, here 1 KW Electricity cost almost 30 Cent, leaving ur computer 24/7 online for PA points, and shops or Fishing would cost u in average (if the Computer "only " Takes 250 Watts 6 KW , which means 60€ per month just pure Energy cost ? !
    Even if u cut it into half by just having ur computer online 12 hours, its still 3x more then people pay for their PA accounts .. Maybe worth to think about it
     
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    maybe we dont have that thing because all would sit 100050000 boxes just for shop? if i would have posibility to put offline shop believe me i would create at least 50 accounts and sit them 1 by 1, and im not only 1 like this.. now i sit with 1 shop and 1 active char and that's isnt enough
    those who have 3-4 year old pc's already have terrible experience in aden while runing trough all those shops, and u want to increase that lag in towns?
    plus all those adena sellers now must have char online and they dont have 2-3-4 or more, and imagine 100 new shops about advertising selling adena poping each minute
     
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    u forgot that u have to pay PA account in order to log more then 1 account right? Have fun paying 50 Pa Accounts , and if u do so then u have all rights to have ur shop, no?
    And those who have 3-4 year old pcs, could buy newer by the money they save from energy lol
    Even if u dont have the cash u could lease a pretty decent computer for less then 30€ / month so ur excuse about old computers doesnt count imho
    Adena sellers now use free accounts to publish their service, if they wanna have more then 1 shop for it, it would be a win/win since they would need a premium account, and banning a premium hurts more ( and gets more income for innova) then a free account, no?
    Also prolly more People would activate premium account if they wouldnt have to be online 24/7 to take anything usefull of it ( its still silly u get PA points for beeing online ... ) think about it, more PA = More money, Maybe even more Players, more GMs, better Hardware , all get happy

    PS: It also wouldnt be hard, to just add an Option to blend out offline chars ( shops, fishers, w/e ) so not even needet new/better comp :)
     
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  4. cmec1

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    do u even think about what u are talking about?
    leasing pc? i doubt i have such a service in my town or even country
    why need pa to log an account to leave it in off shop?.. u need pa to log 2nd active account, and off shop is an INACTIVE account
    in any random free java server if have off shop even with ip restrictions i can make 100000500000 boxes siting.. by simply using wpn after leaving 1 shop.. game isnt runing so you can reset your internet conection (use vpn or if lucky to have old dsl which resets ip auto on every login)
     
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    First of all number of logged accounts is not limitied by ur IP adress, that alone shows that u have no clue what ur talking about ( its limited by HWID )
    2nd of all , it wouldnt be hard for the client to mark the logged account by the hwid it was logged in with, so no u could not load ur 50 boxes without pa
    First think, then talk
    About leasing in ur country ok maybe not available but u still would save money, and could buy a new pc after 1-2 years ... so ur arguments are still invalid
     
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    and hwid is very hard to change? it would be even easier than finding new vpn's that aren't already used
    besides here all logged accounts are monitored by frost not by hwid not by ip.. if frost checkup shows that already 1 in then u cant log 2nd without pa (can be proved by support not banning neither hwid neither ip, just account because of those 2 can be changed easy)
    1-2 years for new pc? and in that time play unplayable game? - when just enter a game and your pc renders thousands of boxes siting in talking island? (not to mention other towns)
    Hardware identification is a security measure used by the Windows operating system on activation. A string called a Hardware Identifier (HWID) is generated by the operating system when it is installed for the first time. This identifier represents all the hardware devices attached to the host computer and is transferred to Microsoft. Every 10 days and after every reboot, a new HWID is generated which is compared with the one generated at the time of installation. If both the IDs are close to each other, then the operating system assumes that it is running on the same device. Otherwise, the operating system needs to be activated by Microsoft.
    The disadvantage of this approach is when a user changes components like RAM, graphics cards and sound cards, thus generating a considerably different HWID on the subsequent reboot. This can cause the operating system to be blocked, and the user must then contact Microsoft customer support to report their changes.
    so even if it would be hwid dependant i doubt innova have decoder to check if its same or not same pc so after each reboot your could log another account
     
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    thats windows hwid, innova gets ur hwid by another way, u can easily check that if u ever got an crash report, u see ur mac adress and ur hwid, and its not the same hwid which is created from windows, in other words, they have some other method to give u some unique hwid
    Even if u can get a work around by rebooting ur pc, then have fun reboot 50 times, if someone take all that work for just a shop ok so be it ... , still as i said it would be easy to introduce an option to "disable offline shops" to not lag
     
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    so with new functions to disable smth u can write to korea.. besides that newcomers who launch game first time launch it without disabled anything, and with so big loads can get perma crash and etc etc etc.. there will be no such things on official server u can forget about it, this theme was discussed like 3 years ago when private servers started those features
    https://4gameforum.com/threads/21142/#post-144402 and there were more
     
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    well i just dont understand how this game still works like in stoneage x.x
     
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    its not in stone age.. and its not private l2j server.. official servers have their own benefits and java developers implement more and more features just to have income in selling product.. u will never see in official events like in java (ctf/ctc/tvt/auto lms and others)
     
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    Buy a very low power usage laptop and do ur stuff.
    Here ,problem solved.
    Having a server with ten millions off shops while we r lagging on siege with 200 pple running?
    Great idea sir.
     
  12. BeFair

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    playing on a laptop can only be suggested from ppl which actually never played on a real pc lol
    i dont know why u all scared about the "allmighty " lag ... maybe u should buy better computer ? :)
     
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    there is already problems from server side (skill delays/ and other latency related issues) and with 10milion boxes that only would increase cause u want it or not sitting shop is taking spot/activity not less than active person..
    besides u alone have problems with savings here, so buy yourself a "better" energy saving computer and enjoy your low bills..
     
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