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Topaz in Innova server

Discussion in 'Archive 2.0' started by Nickmgs, Feb 12, 2017.

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Topaz Brooch in Core server or not?

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  2. no

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  1. Nickmgs

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    I want to ask you if you beleve that topaz Brooch can help some "weak" class to balance in oly-coc pvp..
    Now archer - Dagers its very OP class and some class like Tyr-tank-iss very weak low DMG..
    I think Topaz can help this class litle bcs this Brooch make true DMG ~1-13k with 30 sec re-use..
    Some l2 store items help more some class than other (like reberth shirt.healer-tank no need it.but for mage-archer-Dagers is very good).
    So i think its time to come to l2 store some items to help the ''weak" class and not all time the OP class.
    Archers-dagers-mage make ~ more than 7k dmg per hit (topaz give 7k dmg at lvl3) so i think this class dont use it..But for tyr-tank-iss 7k dmg its very good. So i beleve to help litle..

    Foto from Topaz--> https://files.fm/u/nhswzsru

    Ty Nickmgs
     
  2. MrOurk

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    No, it should never come, end of topic, it's not that some class is bad in oly, just every tyrr in this server with 1-2 exceptions are terribad
     
  3. Captive7

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    I agree with the idea, helping for class Tyr-tank-iss olys/CoC
     
  4. MrOurk

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    Tyrr and iss are rly strong in CoC/Oly, idk what you talk about
     
  5. Eyon00

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    topaz = cancer.
     
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  6. iKoobu

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    My god... topaz usefull for tyrs.. while they got damage on barrier, yeah good boost for tyrs, get killed on your own barrier, or better lets give othells the chance to kill you via hide + topaz + hide + topaz.
    Did u know how stupid is this broch? Please, do not bring it to our server, its a ******* game breaker.
     
  7. Hax

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    i gotta agree with my brokobu
     
  8. Eyon00

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    And level 6 topaz gives lethal chance, double cancer.
     
  9. cmec1

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    tyrs/tanks/ises are weak in oly coc? in oly maybe but not all of them, in coc look if there's not hero char in arena 99% the winer will be iss/tank/tyrr (or tie from those 3 clases)
    im iss i dont cry about my dmg in oly.. if i dont fail i can force any1 (except top healers) in using shirt rebirth (be it tank or archer or dager and etc).. ofc dagers are cowards and fight 15s of 5min fight and sit in perma hide
    and to bring balance they should remove shirts from oly that would be game changer for all, and if they bring topaz imagine 13k dmg on your own barier or undying if u arent full con build and undying prox on 10-15k hp
    dont forget there is a thing like pve char and pvp char, dont want to make dmg with pve char like destro or dreadnought, and at same be OP in pvp like archer shooting 100k, archers are weak in pve u will not see archer runing with mobs soloing in A1 at atelia, (dont count few exceptions like in rusian server dude with lindvior lv3 bow)

    also about oly on "weak" classes u dont need 800-1000 pts like on archer/dager to take hero, tanks are heros with 200pts, some tyrs with 100pts.. so stop whining
     
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  10. Alskling

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    Tyrrs are weak in oly, or you need to have pvp items/epics/brooch and etc. to be good vs players with lower eq, archers with 70k dmg /sayha with perma hide/soultaker with perma resummon/daggers with perma stun. There is no oly balance, if you make tyrr for dmg you lose con, if you make tyrr for con you lose dmg, I have tyrr gk with +8 set/diamon lv 3/3x +5 con+4 cha and with wolf on oly i get 45 k from archers. Tyrr should get boost, not daggers or archers, they are strong enough. Those heros with 100-200 pts, most of them are heros because they got fed, I'm wonder how many pts they would have without fed.
     
  11. Ravhyon

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    No, topaz *****, they should just remove the shirts inside oly(Shiny,M.reflect,P.reflect)
     
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  12. SnoWyz

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    Just the skills are okay. Remove 6 slots buffs too.
     
  13. Takanodan

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    The reason why tyrrs get hero with 200 pts is just because nobody with gear plays it..

    If I fully stack a GK or Duelist or Titan, it'd pbb do around same damage my healer or wynn does inside oly.. Just watch RU frapses and you'll see that there are some tyrrs destroying top archers/healers/etc.

    About topaz, it'd help a lot tanks/tyrrs/healers/iss (maybe a bit for wynns).. It'd be nightmare for feohs/archers, and kinda annoyin for daggers.

    If you think about it, the same classes that get big help inside oly from shirt skills (rebirth) are the ones that would suffer more from topaz (because they have a hard time healing themselves).
    Outside oly/coc, topaz doesn't do much since archers walking around with 75k hp, healers on 120k+ hp.

    Tbh, I'd prefer oly without topaz/shirt skills, but that's not gonna happen.. And introducing topaz now? They'd pbb put 3 min cooldown on topaz to make both sides pleased and almost nobody would get it, that's if they implemented.
     
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    and u think +8 tw set and lv3 diamond is good for oly? ppl are runing oly with 500b or more worth equip.. besides that if u know how to play your tyr then archers/sayhas with same equip or even slightly stronger shouldnt be problem.. only problem i would see is dagers on perma hide and tanks that u can die from reflects .. and i guess u runing with aq normal+baium normal +coc jewels and etc with 3k mdef and crying about sayhas 1shoting u? or u runing in light set with warior and having 6-7k pdef thinking that archer with kelbim (or even apo +10 +2sa +crit dmg augu) and tauti ring will not hit u 50k?
    im iss with diamond lv3 and with pvp set, i dont get more than 50k from top archers who are runing with lv5 rubys and pvp bows+12 and rest equip worth like 50 times of yours, and if u think having all bufs+sonatas its much more stats wise than having those 5 that oly npc gives u are wrong.. daring sonata -2k pdef, if i run with knight im vulnerable cause stone/angel doesnt recover for perma usage
    heros with 100-200pts are fed? are u joking? i can take 99 noob and if not lazy to camp watch who's inside and who's not probably can make same 100pts, ofc after 100 pts or after 30 matches everything changes cause u are grouped with top scorers but if u do it cleverly there is no problem to reach 200pts mark (do it at last weekday and prepared to the teeth, and observe whole oly situation at all given time.. all even newbies are giving 10pts.. so 5wins to get 100 pts isnt that hard ^^)
     
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  15. Seivlas

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    Good idea, as a Yul, I was only missing the ability to kill people when they had undying will/giant cele (/sarcasm)
     
  16. cmec1

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    ps to all who rly rly rly want that **** here.. wait for next update invest 50b and buy upgraded kelbim.. and u will have your topaz 7k dmg each 1min (even trough cele's and etc)
     
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    You are wrong, i have eternal hvy, i use knight vs archers and i have soul aq/soul tezza/tauti/zaken an stun earring, i dont have 500 bils for better eq. Ofc they are fed, just look on monument, their fights history, at least 70% are 0 min, and fights x times vs same guys . I seen some fraps and what? He can show you 1 fight where he won, but you will never know how many times he lose to him, 1 win vs 20 lose, wow... I also seen on Naia healer with dragon weapon 1 shooting other guys with good eq.
     
  18. ViaAgnis

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    http://imgur.com/hhCavNz

    to be fair it isnt up to us what we get here in innova, it will depend on the russian community, if they start to qq about this skill on the kelbim weapon we might see topaz in these servers.
     
  19. cmec1

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    well there is a thing like feed waves all know that, but that doesnt mean when for example 50ppl from clan goes on feed wave that if u get hero who will be sufficient to stand stand in pvp and use hero fear or silence and u will not relog to him.. feed waves are not made for tyrrs.. they are made for tanks which is crucial and healers, and +- for archers.. for example if that "fed" tyrr meets a tank or a healer in oly who is hero pretender than 200% not healer (if he has competition) gona relog but tyrr
    go and check for example captive's record of this month 50 fights, 9 fights with <10s (which 3 of them 100% noob reloged(cause know that has 0 chance with his 3b equip against hero or was simply 1shoted) and not from feed wave) so its 7 feeds which are <15%..
    bahuraspwnz 14 fights 2 relogs , 2 wins against hero's not even from same clan.. also fed?
    mukino 2 fights <10s from 15 also fed?..
    knowing what gear ppl can take from cp for oly if they are confident about taking hero even tyrrs make dmg and dont die so easily from top dp'sers
     
  20. Arbogast

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    fascinating is to play lame doomcryer and give advices everywhere...
     
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