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  1. Tankas

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    Worth coming over here to start over?or are things just as bad as in na l2 where you need to either bot for gold or spend 100$ every month to stay competetive
     
  2. SnoWyz

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    It's that in any oficial server.
     
  3. cmec1

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    100$ every month thats like if u want to be competetive in <85lvl.. after 85 that ammount goes x5 atleast, not telling that first month u need x300 that ammount to start being "competetive"
     
  4. Tankas

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    guess im not touching global then :)
     
  5. iKoobu

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    if you don't want to farm, you would need to donate simple as that. Get endgame gear w/o donation is possible? yep, its easy? nop. You want easy items just donate. Simple as that. The only thing that is expensive as **** here is the broochs thing, rest is affordable for everyone who either spend euros or farm their own adena.
     
  6. Tankas

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    idk how things are here, but in na version credit card warriors run around decked in +15 r99 weapons easy, if you dont pay you really arent getting that, so its either bot or pay
     
  7. SnoWyz

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    We just have 1 bow +15 here.
     
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    Before new brooch lvl 6 in my eyes everything was fine, but now.... Better do not start play on this server. Just waste of your time and money. I still believe, that Innova finally will realize how powerfull, destructive and expensive this brooch are.

    So at this moment can't invite you to this server with a clear conscience.
     
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    Innova really know how expensive this brooch is...they have money from this ;)
     
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    Surely there are some more differences but I write here first ones you can easy see.

    Possitive:
    You can play from every or almost every country.
    PA subscription with xp/drop boost and possibility to log extra client.(no unlimited boxes).
    No topaz in game and no abundance talisman at olympiad.
    Helios rings only farmable in game, yes, here we kill helios for ring and sources.
    GM not rewarding events with +16 dark weapons 2x SA stage 10 lol.
    99% less HEWR.
    Shirts can be made in fantasy or with l2store anytime you want and exchange +8 to +10 adding stone.
    You can buy brooch boxes from players or mammon or l2store anytime you want and 3x times cheaper than in west.

    Negative:
    No dimensional siege/raids

    People complaining about wasting money dont know game they are playing? Players giving gear, quitting, rmting since 2004, doesnt matter with or withour l2store, who can play 24/7 or donate will obiously will be stronger than who plays 1 hour, besides there is people playing for years and a new one starting will need time to catch them, even being millionaire or nolifer, to be in top in one week play other game or private.
     
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    With unlimited sources u will not be top in 1 week, u will reach everything possible in 2 days, even 103 lvl +. From L2store u can buy every possible item, its just matter how much euro u invest.

    Regarding money or farm:
    If u are good player u need 1k bilions or 10k euro as damage dealer and 200billions or 2k euro as support.
    If u are bad player u need 10 times more to start play.
     
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    200b for a suport means 1shoted by any archer with pvp wep (not talking about 5/6 brooches and skills +20)
     
  14. iKoobu

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    Do not hear this guy is just a clown. 1k bills as dd / 200 bills as supp? Thats why u were playing azira's healer instead of yours? You was that bad that your 200bill gear were not enough and you needed to go on other guy toon.
     
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    Rumors are going around that Lineage2 is not profitable enough for NCWest so maybe soon there will be only 1 option :/
     
  16. MrOurk

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    Right now if I had to choose one option if I had to start from 0 on both servers I would think about it really a lot, since it's not that clear anymore what server is better.

    In Ncwest you get more people playing all servers, with the problem that there you got some bots for farming <90 areas (they did insane cleanup in every area) but in exchange you getting l2 store event in double or tripple price than here. There also you don't need to pay for anything in order to play with boxes, per PC you can log 3 accounts, the incovenience is that RMT is way more extended there than here, but the server management knows pretty well what they are doing and they seem to be caring latelly WAY more than team does here in Innova (at least the non russian part)

    Here in Innova you got better drops / spoil rates, more adenas from mobs / quests and it's a little bit easier to gear up, but it's getting everyday more and more closer to NCwest in the matter of reduced drops and quests adjusted. While on NCWest everything you want you can RMT it without much problems (at top RMT levels you might get ban) here RMT is legal (not RMT itself but anything you need you can get it from l2store basically) the only thing you cannot get for now it's Helios Rings (the last ingame top epic) for which you need to farm the boss and the enhanced bosses for sources to upgrade them (last ingame event we had x4 level 1 rings still injected into server). The moment this server loses part of their remaining playerbase there's nothing that can save us since there "can't" be server merges (we could get merged with russians but not likely in short amount of time), also you can't play with 2-3 chars if you don't pay PA account (it's somehow good as not that many boxes in server and PA gives you +100% xp/sp/drop rate and +50% spoil rate and also one premium item per day per char that can go from hp/cp cocktails to pvp armor stones). Also l2store events here are somehow more affordable that in NCWest and the most important events are permanently in the l2store such as talismans,brooches and shirt, so for newcomers it's easier to get that part done. But as Naito said, after 6 slots brooches with the brooch rhapsody madness and NO possible way of gearing up decently added to the fact EU team seems not to care at all (at least we got CM Fragola reading forums, before that it was like ghost server from Innova side) about what's going on server, and also no dimensional raids / sieges (we got custom sieges with pvp stone in a random castle but it's totally custom and bad managed one).

    TL;DR: If you plan to start I'd recommend you starting here, but with the thing that NCWest seems to be doing a little bit better latelly, it's not so huge difference in favour of Innova anymore, so don't expect that much more here compared to there
     
  17. iVoid

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    Not like that when she/he is reading she/he is doing anything ,besides deleting every post that exposes her uncompetence regarding the game (not talking about classic).
    Ah well i forgot important part 118 HOURS ONLINE MAI GOD.

    To answer the question if it's worth it . I would personally say if u start from the scratch on both servers i would start for that moment here. If u have played one of the servers and you have gear there ,i would stick to that server.

    Thinking in the long term plan ,with the support and management staff that INNOVA is currently possesing with i would never start here honestly.
    Lack of interest.
    Lack of ambition.
    Lack of creativity.
    Lack of ideas.

    Most important for me is that no matter what the players want/ask for (no matter if it's possible for the team considering they have to talk to the koreans) the stuff is not giving any correct answer or solution or plans.

    Simply this guys are clueless about the game. They see us as walking ATMs nothing more and as long as there are people who are willing to pay they will not change a thing.

    NCWest change quite a lot comparing the moment when we all started in C1 back then, but at least they finaly realized where they brought the server to and they are ready for major changes.In reverse for INNOVA major changes = brooch event in L2store saying "up to 40% discount " but is actually 15%.

    Fragola - 118 HOURS ONLINE TOP KEK
     
  18. Yakawa

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    This, one good thing i would add is the new CM fragola, she tries to help ppl out, but as with everything there are ppl that will not be satisfied every time.
     
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    Dear users,

    Please stay on topic. If you want to discuss about game mechanic, create another thread for it.
     
  20. ChiefSlapahoe

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    well this is getting me really confused ^^

    I used to play on Freya NC West for 5 years, quited 3 years ago and I missed L2 so much I wanna come back :)

    Have nothing left on Freya and really want to try Core server.
    Back in 2014 Freya was pretty much empty, I logged in last night on Core and saw a pretty decent amount of ppl with shops in Aden.


    It can't be worse then NCWest ^^ can it?
     
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