Macro abusing?

You look like a psychologicaly damaged person , replying to you was a waste of my time. About Mrourk's post , it doesnt matter how effective or efficient macro and botting with programs are in relation to one another, its still the same and i hope Innova get a more strict stance about it.

 

and if "botter"targets specific mobs? like for example in gc /target giant, hb solo aoe spot also all mobs have prefix

 

If they do it like that it means they got 2 braincells more than 80-90% of people using those

 

Real botter target for massive exp,so wont avoid any mob ,or massive adena farm ,hell have it picked.
With ingame macro none of those is possible which was explained earlier.

 

Commenting a bit more on this, I don't really think this in game macros are any good to do anything, as someone doing a quest let's say on hand it's a way faster way of doing it compared to someone using those macros, I don't really know of anyone using those macros for anything decent unless you need to go pve with 2 chars in example in a full party, and still it would be way worse than finding someone active in clan

 

the mouse driver program fot that devices runs exactly like auto macro in game:
set mouse:
- press F1
- delay press (ms)
- release F1
- delay til press next key (ms)
- press F2
- delay press (ms)
- release F2
- delay til press next key (ms)
- press num1 (num lock 1)
- delay press (ms)
- release num1
- ... etc
- and to the end ... replay cycle

this mouse driver program (including that repetitive macro) never know when u have 50% hp to use hp pot or when u die -> go in town and come back to the spot and stat farm again or when a flag char is in the zone no target flag ppl ... or select 1st or 2nd option from NPC conversation window like auto take quest for kartia then auto anter in kartia ... never

and ...
and every mouse with more then 3 buttons (classic 3 buttons: right click, left click, middle click) ... like this https://www.microsoft.com/accessories/en-us/products/mice/comfort-mouse-4500/4fd-00025 pictures here with 2 more buttons (back/forward) can be set from original driver to run such as macro like "emulate" press/release with delay for any standard key from a normal keyboard for a specific application like L2 for example
and i think nowadays every 1 have a mouse with more then 3 classic buttons.

and i think this affirmation "xp farm afk is a bot" sound like if i have 2 pc and my iss box is on auto macro (in game macro) and assist me with debuff on open field farm ... that means that box is a bot ??
or if i put my char on auto macro for 5 min and i go to smoke ... my char is o bot for 5 min ??

imo, in game macro or gaming mouse/keyboard future macro is like 0.01% from a script/bot program
and imo, to make/set a good in game macro or gaming mouse/keyboard future macro (means that delay ... is very very important) u must have brain ... or die (and no1 frag ppl kill u)

so .. @CM Fragola ... what means mouse/keyboard repeated macro for innova ... can give me an example ... because if for innova, mouse/keyboard repeated macro means what i write above ... u can ban all of us because we have mouse with more then 3 btn ... is like 4$ the cheapest ... but 90% from us dont know how to set them

 

@comma i think she had in mind, also i wanted to say that, that if you leave your char afk, without monitoring for 24h "macro exp" is banable offense. if you play yourself and act like human, not bot, excuse me, macro, this is suspicious.

 

y but if, let's say just u and me ... if we have a bad timing, like : i go to smoke at every 1 h and let my char on macro, u come to check the are, find me on auto macro and do that check at every 1 h and u never find my in front of my desk .... and tomorrow again ... that mean i am a bot ??
is like u put a shop in aden and make macro for spam chat and let ur char 24 h online ... so u are a bot because u try to make adena afk ? ... in real life if u let ur shop open and go home u will be stolen
one of us try to make xp afk like one of use try to make adena afk ... abusing macro

believe me, the 8k q for exalted a full pt was on ig auto macro for 6 or 7 h and some of us (pt members) was afk xp and others just watching the chars

MrOurk give u the solution for afk xp farm

name of target Queen Ant

Code:

/target queen
/useskill ..
/delay ...
/etc
 
/target ant
/ etc ...

but if is suspicious char ... for this we have GM's and Admins ... if they are in game?!?!? ... because for that ppl buy L2store and PA and we have 80% L2store events and 20% farm events

The question remains:
what means mouse/keyboard repeated macro for innova
because if i win the contest and innova give me a prize like a mouse like that, i want to use that mouse at maximum potential

 

U cant set that mouse on repetable macro,u need to press specific button to activate it ,same as keyborads.
Other.thing is when ure goin to use software included to device which allows u to do multiple things automated,over and over again like fameus cliker

 

i think i can explain this...
for example tyrr titan,

Code:

/attack
/nexttarget
/delay 5

still looks normal.
and then appearns 2nd macro

Code:

/useskill rage
/useskill second wind

and back to 1st one

Code:

/attack
/nexttarget
/delay 5

so in short. keyboard/mouse doing job for you, because you can't set macro to use 2 macros at once. or again i don't know game mechanics?
so it's happening like keyboard/mouse clicking your f1 every 5 seconds, and every 3 or 5 mins press f2, and again spam f1.. iss set on rebuff every 5-10min. but even this can be set on kb/mouse macro, just need some expierence to to that..


i think this is what they meant..

 

guys whats so hard to understand lol

Use ANY ingame macro and its allowed. Even on repeat. Even for 30 days straight.

Use ANY macro not from game (eg. Keyboard spamming F1 every few seconds. Yes you have to activate keyboard macro but automated key input for mouse and keyboard isnt allowed) it is not allowed.

simple.

 

also in keyboard/mouse macro u can not set 2 macro at once
on logitech mouse/keyboard the extra buttons/keys are named like G1 to G16 (Gxx)
u can set on G1 for example tu emulate keyboard press F1, F2, F3 (/attack, /targetnext, /delay 5)
on G2 -> F11, F12 (/useskill rage, /useskill second wind)
but never can set on G1 something like F1, F2, F3, G2
for F1, F2, F3 (/attack, /targetnext, /delay 5) = G1 u must press G1 once ... and auto repeat is activated
for F11, F12 (/useskill rage, /useskill second wind) = G2 u must press G2 once (set this to no auto repeat)
then must press G1 again for run F1, F2, F3 (/attack, /targetnext, /delay 5) with auto repeat

is exactly like in game macro:
macro 1 = /attack, /targetnext, /delay 5 => right click to auto repeat
macro 2 = /useskill rage, /useskill second wind => left click to run just once
then right click on macro 1 to auto repeat
the mouse/keyboard have the same mechanics like in game macro
never can run G1 and G2 sets in same time

like what St0ne said

...

i dont find future like this (multiple things automated) ... at least for this microsoft mouse or for this logitech mouse (and logitech have same software for all mouse and keyboard)
probably if u have 1 mouse and 1 keyboard like that and from mouse run 1 macro and, in same time from keyboard run another macro ... idk

imo in game macro is more more easy to set ... for that i use in game macro + normal/standard keyboard against any mmo game mouse/keyboard
if u dont set the correct delay for mouse macro u have surprises
- for example: put 4 skills in ur 1st skillbar (the F keys bar) on F1,F2,F3,F4 ... and press very quick F1,F2,F3,F4 ===> the result is : ur char cast only skill from F1 and from F4. but u already press F1,F2,F3,F4 ... why skills from F2 and F3 dont cast? ... i tell u why. because is need a time to cast a skill like 1.5s ... and in that 1.5 s u already press F2,F3 and F4 ... and the mechanis of game is to execute last command => F4 skill.
same effect for mouse/keyboard macro if u dont set the correct delay time for ur mouse macro.

but ... any way
innova have a contest, L2 (classic) contest -> and reward -> a mmo mouse with 16 more programmable buttons (macro, repeated macro, etc) ... and also innova have EULA rule 7.3 (7.1 for Ru) wehere ...

so, @ innova team
what means mouse/keyboard repeated macro for innova/4game ??

@Hax
if u win that contest and innova/4game give u a mouse like redragon with 16 buttons ... u can promise u will use only the classic 3 buttons and never more ... because inova/4game EULA rule 7.3 dont allow to use it at maximum ?? ... i just ask

PvP-Tournament Lineage 2 Classic 2017. About the prizes: Redragon Legend

i have the answer: the mouse have fake buttons , just for desing

 

with that programable keyboard u dont need to make like :g1-> f1 f2 f3 g2
u simply make g1 each 5sec to press f1 in f1 u have macro /next target /attack
and each 2min to press f2 with macro /useskill rage /useskill 2nd wind

but also that with 3 braincells can be abused as macro without punishment.. simply make macro on keyboard not in 1 cycle for 2min but in like 10-20 cycles of 1:30-2 min reuses randomized..

 

indeed ... I never thought, u are right
but any way they (4game) give a mouse like that, where can be set things like this ... and also 4game EULA dont allow to use it ...

 

I am really lost on this question because I thought "mouse/keyboard macro" should be self-explanatory.


So.

There's a game, called Lineage 2 and this game has a feature that allows you to make in-game macros with a special in-game interface.

like:

Since the recent update, we can cycle those macros with the right-click. And these are not bannable because they are part of the game.

Now let's take any multi-button mouse for example. It usually has 2 types of software -

1) driver, which allows the mouse to interact with the OS and move the cursor, register button commands like "left-click", "right-click" and "double-click", multi-button mouse drivers can also register extra 1-2-3-4-5-6-etc button clicks when the appropriate button is clicked.

2) they also usually have another type of software that allows a user to create macros - sets of mouse clicks and movements which can be cycled.

And this type 2 is what considered 3rd-party software and is not allowed because it is not an in-game feature and yes, we can detect the difference between "in-game macro" and "mouse macro".

 

+1

 

Just like Fragola explained,simple as that.
My Razor mouse came up with this soft as part of setup. Same as Logiteh.

 

I am going to reply that there was a time where i was in a party afk farming with macros. We could've keep buffs up 100% of time healer heal 100% of time and no mana problems this could run for infinite amount of time. Iss had pickup to pick up mana herbs cuz of buffs and thats it full buffed party 1 aggro macro dds with aoe macros heal with healing macro iss with buffs macro (if u have 2 iss u can even make better setup). This is literally botting and cps can do it easily in far areas with good mobs respawn like SH3. I like the macro loop feature but it can be abused easily and i would prefer not having the feature at all even tho its "legal" doesnt mean its not just a different botting method. This isn't a complaint or anything but i think it should be looked at, after all Innova's reputation is all on the fact that its a good anti-bot server. If reputation turns into "no bots but can macro farm infinitely" then there will be no difference between it and offi servers

 

man, all official servers get that future, Korean, EU, Ru, NCwest ... all.
but ...
- bot does not mean only repeat some actions like /nexttarget, skills and chat over and over again
- bot mean to know when ur HP is low or when u need to use celestial, or when a flag ppl is around or a GM to auto log off/log in back in 5 min, or to autotarget a war enemy if is alone (and u are alone) or pr/bsoe if come a war full pt, or all pt members assist the MA in PVP or PVE, or block the enemy when he want to cast some skills like BR, or auto change target exactly when the curent target is dead (no lose time), or u can know what gear have ur target/enemy (armor ++, weapon ++ , etc) ... or about afk xp if the char dies > auto go in town and come back or just auto go in town to take buffs every h and then come back to the spot or auto change spot/area depending of char lvl to grow up ... and many other things.

on NCwest naia try to fill what can be made with bot scripts when a full (script) pt or more pts jump on u and u are tank and have 2 healers on ur pt but all ur pt are non bot/script -> u will die in 3 seconds... or go in olly with good full script oponent and u will die in 3s
for that reason i'll not play on NCwest

so i ask u 1 question.
how many afk xp farmers u find here on core (on auto macro) ... comparing with NCwest (bot/script or auto macro) afk xp farmers ?
i think 1% core vs 99.99% NCwest ...
like what can do with auto macro is 1% from what can do with a script 100%

go play on NCwest and after 3 month come back here on Core and tell "Thanks God, You give auto macro and I can do 8k quest quietly. and i found enough spots where i can farm for that quest on this server and just no script ppl here (maybe 1%)"