Hey hou hooo, I just wanted to ask some advices from REAL Wynn's that activelly playing olympiad, not the "theorycrafter's" So first, I wanted to play olympiad with my Wynn, but finding problematic to decide on my AP build, and it's hard to test with only 30 matches per weekend, and always having different class/gear/hand's player's. Currently I use this AP setup: I focusing on marks dmg and sustain. But still thinking about Noble Resistance(10% debuff resist) and Noble Spirit(50 attribute att/def) or meye even switching to full DEF/HP setup.. And well gearwise I'm somewhere in the middle/lower tier: R95 +10 Robe set R99 Bless Retri +10 2SA S.Tezza/CoC Stun earing+B.Zaken/S.AQ+Beleth/M.Istina ring Lydia belt/Shiny+10/Longing/M.atk+CON acc 3x Lege WIT Brooch: Tanzanite 4; Obsidian 6; Opal 4; Diamond 4/Pearl 4; Sapphire 5; Amethyst 4 All skills +10 And second question about retri's SA's. I'm using atm 1st sa - Body Lv7(+27% HP) and 2nd sa - HP Mystic Lv7(+13% HP/5% M.crit dmg). I'm having douth's about 2nd SA, and thinking about aswell Acumen Mystic Lv5(+7% C.speed, 3% M.crit dmg) or HP Acumen Lv7(+13% HP/+8% C.speed). I'll tell you sincerely I'm not trying to become Hero or contest it, I just wanna play competivelly in olympiad, because that's reason why I play this game, and that's only reason to farm and try my best to be able have fun inside, coz I believe olympiad is only place where player's get to show they real capabilitys and I really enjoying that. Thanks in advance for your ansver and hope you have a great day ;p
As a wynn, you don't need m. crit damage.. just go for casting + hp on 2nd SA.. About brooch, opal 4 is useless for wynn.. the marks don't get bonus from it.. just get garnet 4 or w/e.. About amethyst, I never tested, so I can't say if they work for marks or not.. About your gear, you have bless retri r99 +10, obsidian 6 but still r95 +10 robe set? this set is really really really weak.. you need at least +8 robe set r99 with pvp chest/pants.. pvp set makes sooo much difference it's ******ed.. About AP.. I'd go with: 8 points on HP 2 points p.def (wiz) 2 points mental (wiz) 2 points p.def (wiz) 2 points debuff resist (wiz) Or 8 points on HP 2 points p.def (wiz) 2 points mental (wiz) 2 points p.def (wiz) 2 points stun/yoke (war) There are other, but for sure you need to focus on hp + def + debuff resist.. And mental/physical trait on dual class.. And fix your set... wth +10 r95..... ps: soul baium is really good for wynn.. if you can sell beleth + istina ring and start working for soul baium, it'll be a big boost for you for pvp..
pure oly if not full end game gear should be full hp/pdef since u need to survive and have enough hp that dager/archer must hit into sumon and not straight to u matk doesnt affect marks (atleast not the damage they deal (maybe landing in full resistance char)) try to make 8x hp/ 4pdef, 4 pdef with robe (or 8hp, 2pdef from warior, 2matk from wiz, and 4 pdef with robe)
Can you explain this? I'm using atm Lightning Protection+6% HP thought it's best option or +24% HP, never considered Mental. Brooch - ok I had no idea opal is useless, gonna switch to Garnet, and abouth Amethyst I had doubth's myself aswell but I dont know to what switch it.. ruby? I got lvl3 for pve, but in oly I use summons just to lock-down/absorb incoming dmg.. Cat eye? If Lv.5 woud be cute but no chance fo me atm. Blue Cat? Sounds kinda not worth.. And yeah my set is **** but I have tested this set and +8 blessed robe, and mine is giving way more p.def, and sadly I have no resourses for pvp main/leggs atm and doubth any soon will have... but soul baium is aviable for me, coud you tell me more why it is better? Resistances mainly? ok > M.Istina because as you said I been working wrong way to M.Crit dmg, but Beleth feels nice vs mages and they damn Brooch Raphsos and Lv6 Sapphires. And huge thanks, you have cleared a lot of question and doubth's and even learned something totally new!
M. atk affect directly marks.. and if you don't go full resist, you'll have fear/stun/all landing on you.. and you'll die stupid matches for being perma stun.. Dunno where you got your info, but wasn't from a wynn.. About last brooch, if amethyst doesn't work with marks, maybe emerald 4? If I were you, I'd sell this obsidian 6.. get obsidian 5 (since obsidian 6 is only really worth for ppl that have all the gear and can do brooch br) and would get full pvp set +8.. only thing obsidian 6 gives (if you don't have other brooches 6) is the mirage effect each 15s.. About traits, daggers will hide for most of the match, come out and try to perma stun you for 30s so they either run by damage or kill you.. archer will try to open skills, stun you and kill you fast.. mages can stun you on double cast, and if they open all skills + talismans, can be dangerous.. if you can resist the jump from sayha seer, you can put marks (if you don't get charmed), etc.. wynn is about resisting few stuff to put marks and exile.. About rings, I'd suggest soul baium always.. and soul aq vs evisc/daggers/archers/tyrrs warlord or DB... tauti ring vs the rest..
matk affects marks? no matter which wynn puts marks on me i get 400/tick (that means a noob with 3k matk makes same as for example surprised did) only difference is that more items/level = more landing and etc same as your lumi whatever u gona do its still ~100/tick, maybe marks differ in pve from matk, but pvp higher lv marks = more dmg not more matk = more dmg
I could take screens to prove you are wrong, but I'm guessing Diavolo and any other wynn already knows it, so think what you want man..
I agree with taka on this since he had the privilege of studying the secret arts of wynn summoner from the great weinerthezon himself.
wrong also taka plays wynn and fought vs surprised many times..im sure he knows what hes talking of. plus u can test urself. That fear is nasty...
M atk and Marks? yes get a nice influence..... Mar 23, 2017 If nice p def m def, so many hp are not needed.... go to incrise p atk to share with pets and m atk for marks, will give more power. Here some test that i did and shared like knowledges
lol wtf is this test if u cant even show the dmg/tick?.., im telling from my experience against surprised and other wyns in oly, surpriseds dmg/tick 500 (but he at that moment was 102+++++) and other wyns with 100 and lower level dmg/tick was 490ish.. those 10dmg i drop to skill lvl increase power not to matk's difference
It indeed scaled with mattack / mdef relation,also level difference matters. The more mdef you get and less mattack summoner has, less dmg / tick marks do, but when the summoner gets really nice boost of mattack (like going 101 skill + brooch rhapso), basically from 4 marks for 3-4 seconds you hp will literally be 1
Cmec, pls... pls dude.. About p.atk on AP for oly, I'd recommend against it.. I'd say go full hp + def/resists.. Pets barely do damage compared to marks..
Due to conflicting information on this thread, I did my own test with m.atk affecting marks. With 24,600 matk: 11,286 dmg total over the 10 seconds With 11,959 matk: 7,850 dmg total over the 10 seconds Same target, same everything except weapon. So yes, M.atk affects mark power. The "inflicts damage with 113 power added to the m.atk" in the skill description kinda gives it away that it's m.atk based as well.
Second test checking element against target with 325 Holy def With 24849 matk, 530 element, and 0% sps dmg boost = 11,344 dmg With 23154 matk, 380 element, and 7% sps dmg boost = 11,718 dmg Element does not seem to affect the damage.
full defensive build with max hp for nice balance life and good matk+brooch cast. Then spam trick till opponent is dead if you dont die b4. im not trolling
@Takanodan @MrOurk they are absolutely right, marks DMG is influenced by the summoner m.atack and the defender m.def, it was one of the reasons I changed WIT to INT dyes, and probably the reason you received more dmg from me than by any other summoner at the time. And I'm pretty sure it wasn't just 10 dmg @Hax trick for the win
