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  1. Shinyu

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    A forewarning to all quality players who started Ramona to put forth effort into being a part of a fun LII server. To clan leaders and their members take notice to players "Killtime" and "TEVAS". Killtime is the leader of clan "Enigma". These are two of several who played on the NCwest Zaken server. Concealing loot from field raids, epic raids and exploiting clan members for RMT profiteering. They will do the same here if you let them. They will deplete the market of weapons, armor as well as several other fundamentally important items from deliberately stealing raids if people are weak here. They are a handful of players who killed the Zaken server by not treating it as a game for enjoyment as so many of us do enjoy playing Lineage II since it is an MMORPG and not meant for RMT scheming.

    He got called out in these screenshots below and was definitely frustrated. Haha...too easy.

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  2. neskolinu

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    1. You need to understand what is corruption and what is RMT

    2. L2 for last 5 years and more is all about 1st sieges, heroes and then half community leaves the project and jumps to other.

    3. You can't stop RMTers selling stuff. It is impossible. Where trading exists, RMT will exist too.
     
  3. Shinyu

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    I am not talking about RTM/L2 store. I am talking about a "clan leader" abusing power and using players for themselves. That is one of the main factors that killed the Ncwest Zaken server. Mistreating people is the theme.
     
  4. MrOurk

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    It is the same it happened sometimes in Core and same other servers, CL using their members for their own profit, be it either gear or to RMT stuff, just make sure where you join and that's it, but even if you're sure at start you might still get tricked
     
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    Is this awesome guy barking coz he will be 99 tomorrow? Wow such an achievement.
     
  6. ZiggyStardust

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    And there is nothing new. Many players are coming here as they see the opportunity to benefit. Just yesterday I have seen a player Val1anT, can't remember how his name is written. However, I even remember how I was fighting him in Naia few years ago while he was defending his bot army. Also he is very well known in black market. There were cheaters, botters etc. In Lineage 2 since the beginning and there will be, this game is simply designed to make people fight if they want to be better, everywhere. After playing few big mmos in my life I can say easily, Lineage 2 is simply money making machine, however it's very addictive. I hope I will stay here until subscription end only.
     
  7. St0ne

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    For botters there is a simple solution a 24/7 online GM.
    U wouldnt see any botter around.
    Other thing are scripts which r not that simple to detect,but still pple would think twice before using it ,as they can be watched.
     
  8. MrOurk

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    You don't need any online GM at all to ban botters, it's 2017, you just need to have a big data analyst and from there you can check who is botting or who is not following some heuristics developed and tested already
     
  9. Shinyu

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    There is an easy way to prevent these type of people ruining a server. You grow a clan with quality leadership and quality members. You out number them and you win. Then they quit because they don't make money while the rest of us compete and play the game as a GAME and not a profiteer center. As long as each clan stands independent and does not sell out to these corrupt greedy players then it will be a fun opportunity. I lived through it all on the Zaken server and even before. The players choose to promote a healthy and flourishing LII community. You let them control or you take control. Since these people can't run 100 bots it is easier to out number them with legitimate active members in the community.
     
  10. ElHebi

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    Do u remember when ksk made u cry on christmas evening stream by stealing ur apparition raid? :D
     
  11. Shinyu

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    No one was crying. I was defending my clan mate for an item he spent RL money on through L2 store. ksk knew what they did was F@#$ed up and they returned all of the drops. That is called being a man and a strong leader standing against corruption. Why are you trying to create shame that is not there?

    I do remember ksk exclusively scripted their game play...seems there is not much credibility on the side of ksk.
     
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  12. ElHebi

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    U cried and bring the stream down. I was one of the persons who gave u the items back. I dont like ppl to be crying :/.
    About scripts i dont think ur hands are clean so pls dont try to point out other ppl.
     
  13. Shinyu

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    I don't understand when you say "cried" or "crying". No one literally cries when they play games. I already told you what happened then if you were a part of the situation then you know. I will quote myself so you can read it once more.

    I was in the Teamspeak of Ksk alone standing against all of you for my clan mate. Again, you're trying to take a situation from my respect was grandeur and belittle it because one person dictated an entire clan's decision. I do remember that situation because I was streaming to promote the Lineage II Chronos server to bring more players into the community. I stopped my stream that day because I was frustrated. It was not easy leading an entire clan that was anti third party against players who were not played by actual people but their machines. Being honest is a lot harder than not.

    Hmm, my reputation is that if a non scripter. I promoted legitimate player vs. player interaction where as you among the entirety of ksk did not therefore you have no credibility instigating an empty argument. You're also veering off the threads main topic which is very important to make players aware they have to make adequate decisions so that this server does not fall prey to the likes of the aforementioned.
     
  14. ElHebi

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    I can easy tell u who was in that ts:Seryu,Suricata,Sighz,Krizald. Anyway i remember u using bot in pve is same dirty as using it on pvp. Theres no difference,have a nice day mister promoting healty server.
     
  15. Shinyu

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    I was talking to the majority of the clan in the same Teamspeak channel. Botting in PvE is no where near as harmful as botting in PvP. When I played WizardOfTheNorth there was no botting at all on Chronos. I was PvPing everyone legitimately as one of the few people who understands that cheating negates realistic competition.

    I remember what several ksk members told me in Teamspeak before you transferred to Chronos which let me add that ksk invited me into their teamspeak as a friend. They said "we script because others do". That means you gave up and gave in to ruining the game. That means you're weak. I'm not sure how you among others don't understand that when you cheat you're a part of the problem.
     
  16. ElHebi

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    So u cheating on pve isnt part of the problem. Ok nice logic.As i said Gl,hope to see u on the field :)
     
  17. Shinyu

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    You don't know if I did cheat or not. When or what I did. But I KNOW you and other ksk proudly announced scripting. That means you don't/didn't care about the quality of the Lineage II community. I never had the intent to arrogantly boast "hey look at me, I cheat in PvP, I'm cool" contributing to the deterioration of the Lineage II community. Again, cheating PvE and cheating in PvP are on two entirely different things. Consider all of the factors and what type of people took advantage of what opportunities and players. That's where the blame goes.

    Again, if you care about the LII community you would focus your concern to the topic of this thread.
     
  18. ElHebi

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    Theres nothing to focus here. Rmt is and always will be part of any game where u can trade ur items,u must be thankfull theres no working bots here.
    Ur crusade against rmt is lost before u even started,just my advice swallow w.e tevas enigma ksk or whoever did to u on westeros :)
     
  19. Shinyu

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    Again, this thread is not about RMT. You are too narrow minded to look at the big picture to which I am referring. What you accomplished thus far in this thread was not address any one single issue in support for a better Lineage II which signifies you do not care. I am assuming you are/were a former rmt farmer/pvp scripter until ncwest denied XXX.
     
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  20. KillTime!

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    I actually had to ask who you are Shinyu and why you are so frustrated?

    I don't need to be liked and you can tell whatever you want about me, but you still will need to find the 1st person who ever bought anything from me for real life money coz it never happened, you can't name any item which i would have concealed because from every single raid we made screenshots.

    Luckily for me, all my past and current members know and still have access to our forums with access to all drops and screens :Laugh:.

    Peace

    KillTime - Naia - Clan leader Enigma
    KillTime - Bartz - Clan leader Enigma
    KillTime - Zaken - Clan leader Enigma
    KillTime - Ramona - Clan leader Enigma
     
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