No farming efficiently ingame is enough. But you can't expect to be competitive after 2 days , but this is where people are triggering the quit button , European community want everything in a small amount of time. With 20-30b you can buy items enough to compete but this is also about dedication and will , if you're afraid to lose and die then don't wonder why you can't be competitive
Overall u're right but 20-30b barely gives you r99 set +8 - not talking about another 10 for jewels and another 10 for weap(if we take kelbim/tauti) plus talismans etc etc amd still people with dark stuff kill u ez
+6 to begin is fine , you'll die a lot but if you're actively helping in a clan or in a CP you should improve it easily. I never said you would win with 20-30b but just being able to compete , this is totally different. You can have a set for around 5-6b , a decent weap for 7-8b and it leaves you with 6-8b to buy orfen/ coc jewels or Octavis/istina jewels 20-30b is easily done in 2-3 month if you're farming actively and properly. With the new chronicle you have plenty of help to have decent gear to begin to farm : Paulina set is efficient , the 10 day logs quest is helpfull and dimensional gaps and rift are really bringing something. If you're lucky you can even have some good drops from those 2 ( vagabond in gap and boss in rift)
Enlight me how to be competive with 30b worth gear and on which class? In my opinian competitive now mean what? If you ISS/Tank/Healer then atleast +8 pvp set that roughly 60b(without it you just a simple random 1aoe material), atleast cheap jewels like coc stun/frintezza/s.aq/beleth already cost +-5-6b, minimum tauti weapon +14b, and minimum lv4 brooches x5 goes over 20b, so we got +100b, and im not even speaking about 7sings or belts. And DD without +10 2sa blessed bow's/daggers/retris wont do dmg at all and they need even more to stack to be able do it like Abundances/7singh and so on... And to be competitive what mean? that you will need to fight Kengaa, Taka or Hax partys which has full stacked 7memebers with +10 pvp set, +10-17 pvp weapons, full epics and lv5/6 brooches and atleast 2-4 brooch br's and you gonna get likelly anyways 1shotted from aoe like of ztfiler or NotBrah. I aggre again lame partys as DM it's enough 30b gear meybe, but definetelly not to be competive... Well atleast my gear was worth over 200b in Core and I felt "competive" agains middle tier clans like BA/NF/Ecarlate, and still was getting 1shotted by real competitors EN or even HB.. So idk what kinda of secret way of gearing can make you competive with lame 30b
Gotta agree that with 30b you gonna get smashed by anyone in a top clan. With 50b-60b gear on support you can start to do smth, thats +- what I have, but much more is needed on a dd. By being able to do something I mean that you can fight against the weakest parties in a top clan.
Being competitive means joining a top clan and fighting people, simple as that, you're not going to be able to be competitive vs top stacked pt's from those clans, for that you will need to gear up and farm up really a lot, but what's stopping you to join a top clan and start farming up and improving? Just the motto from this community it's so simple '' no full gear, bleh I won't even leave town''. For supports like tank or iss for pvp you don't need more than 20kkk in example, all you need is brooches 3 which are 2-3kkk (need diamond + obsidian + mby emerald), weapon can be requiem x2 HP SA's, set for 5-6kkk you can buy r99 +6 which is fine enough at start and jewels you need the basics (istina/octavis mix it's fine enough, so let's say 2kkk) so it's tops 11-12kkk, will this gear make you be able to face people like Ztifler / Elenmire / Kengaa groups? No it won't, but you can still join those clans to keep improving, this is not a sprint, this a marathon If you're not farming much you should still be able to make 5-10kkk per month w/o moving a finger + what you farm as CP, what a lot of people can't understand is that it takes time to make items such as brooches 5 and pvp sets, and in order to farm more efficiently you need to invest at some point in gear for pve also, just most of people getting bored and replacing people every 1-2 months and like that it's never going to work P.S: Forgot to add as talismans you need hunter talisman which is 1kkk more but not big deal
I believe all the "top parties" you were into, had him on. Not even you're now can do much without whole clan gear + inviting other ppl. Ah! he didn't need to scamm any1. Seems you can't talk much, rat.
Working as intended. Shirt+8 around 100 euro x2. lvl 4 brooches with 3 packs and exchange the ones i didnt need. Seems rngesus hate u ppl
only from 11th try +8 shirt ;// atleast 3 brooches went to lv4 from 2nd try, atleast little joy.. woud be nice if I coud make atleast lv3 obsidian.. x14 lv2 in a row = QQ
If there is any tali lvl 4 on the server its not due to p2w since those are not in L2store. If there is one its thanks to lot of luck and trys on giran npc boxes.
