Core Daily Discussions Part 2 - Clans, PvP, Olympiad etc

You didn't make RG disband Logy just lol xDD, if you think you had anything to do there you're so wrong you need to recheck what's going on, but w/e I found you better job to ask for, I guess you would fit a lot as politician with so many invented stories and lies, would fit you well

 

RGs started to struggle when they lost their PVE thingies like AQ, Anakim/Lilith. They added points to DKP but no rewards to be given. No will from players to log, desperate attempts of Shiny to recover it failed.

 

Yes on there you're totally right, and do you know when they started losing those? That's the main question

 

My cp did not leave clan cause ulti left. If u remember, i came and talked to you for some stuff for the good of the clan cause i didn't like whatever was happening specially on the pvp part of the clan. we had problem and u know that. The reason that i did that, to come to u 1st, was cause we had decide to leave clan, before even ulti start those kind of "drama" in clan, but since i have tried for that clan too as much i could, we decide give a 2nd chance by talking to u. Ofc u just listen us only and u did whatever u did always. Listening only the top players(like they tried for clan only ) and your lickers. Even on last meeting that u said who ever is going to leave better leave now, we came just to listen what u have to say and find one more reason to not leave clan. But always u prefer listen only ppl that "love" clan (love gainak, drops etc). I will not say more stuff about TH cause there are ppl there that still like and saying about TH is like say about them. I hope one day u will realise some simple mistakes that u do all the time and maybe TH will be as was before. Ah pls my cp is not stacked and we are lf 2 good DD's pm me ingame!

 

What do you expect from a supposed leader who said back in time I only care about my 5 top pt's and the rest of clan is garbage? People don't change

 

U were in HB. U pvp ed us several times, i dont remember u killed us sometimes. Why didnt u use some tactics?
Now u are in BA, why dont u got with your current clan vs EN and dont kill em?
Maybe my answer that its hard to make some tactic, when our people getting 150k every hit from EN stacked people even when they have no boosts, what tactic in PVP u wanna make?
I can add here some information since i ignored u so much:
Who made PVP with your PT on equal gear and spoke to your DDs about how they could improve?
Who was logging and supporting your new toon and xping it?
Who was taking to free XP in nights your new ISS enchanters jsut to get level as fast as possible even tho he was in clan 2 days?

Isnt asnwer on all of that question Logy? Jsut because I dont do, what u say, doesnt mean i dont care for U. Im just dissapointed now from U, sadly u didnt told me this in PM or somewhere and need to discuss it at forums, but what to do...

And about meeting i made is tha best. There was 50 people, just ask them what i exactly said. I said exactly, who is 100% decided he is gonna leave, please do it now.
So again u expect from me to be some kind of magicians propably. I told U, there is no much space for any kind of strategy, when half of our clan dies 1 shot from even casual hits.

U can see it, now we are without bbl,Ultimated, urs PT, Zelthar and etc... And results are pretty similar, i would even say much better. Nothing really changed generally. We jsut got some better items and balanced a bit situation. Nothing extra in out strategy changed, only change is now our people can stand a bit more, because they not getting 150k hit from people without skills... so yeah .. U dont need to search so much in history and see whats going on

 

When i was saying even on forum, that Hax took the control from you, who denied ? (of course it was you) So now you proved, that i had right ^^

 

The way you say it makes me look like I revolted against logy.
Infact I just asked him to make me leader because he doesnt have time and that's it.

 

what exactly mean took control? because none took control from none. If i decide now something and core CPs will agree with it, it will be made. Same as any other person can do it. Crucial and important decision were never made by me or Cursed or Ultimated or Hax. It was always made by core people of clan.
_Its only your delusion i ever was deciding something regarding drops. That u ro someone from HB spread rumours and called me scammer. For 3 years in such a question like drops i was never really making decision. It was always Cursed, Ultimated, now Hax. Simply because i dont really care. If u ask me about clan directions, yes, it was my idea to fight vs all, because i consider this is only way it should be played, but simple if people inside our clan wouldnt share that idea, how could i enforce it?

So again, most propably u have again no clue as usually how we are working. Everybody in our clan can now call core players and say for example. Now we will kick Logy from clan. If all will vote yes, tell me what i will do? Same as with everybody or any other thing. Who is handling business, drops , communication etc doesnt really control things, because if he have no support from core players, he cannot do it, or can he?
Imagine situation, i or hax will decide to sabotage clan now at events and will not do our best for clan, U really think for example Ztifler or PVPA will just watch and do nothing about it? So maybe u have some idea, im some kind of Hitler and your new CP members said, but believe me, none can make any decision without support from core players and not only in our clan, but in any clan.

Leaders is there to control casual stuff and communicate with ppl, it takes lot of time, especiially talk with ppl, know their needs, decide drops correctly, sell all stuff... But it doesnt mean he will do everything alone. Thats not possible if u cannot play 24/7.

 

The problem on pvp was not only this and u know , we talked about that and u agreed but never mind u can remember whatever u want. About BA or whatever clan i will be, i will fight who ever try fight me, Atm your clan do that to me so i turn back when i can. About my new toon i show u how thankfull i was ,about iss u said at the start no and i came to ask u for that. But since u say about that let me remind u when i came back in game on last summer helios update was up , who was coming for pvp on raids without demand anything like others in clan. So i think i deserve it that and my cp , never asked something more or less. What ever changes we made was for make our game play better for us and for the clan. I dont have to pm u for something and hax should inform u for those or some others from TH that tried to make me come back. I don't have to discuss something , just is annoying to read here or in pm that we left cause of Ulti. About meeting the only party that was from everyone sure that we are going to leave was my cp cause 2 days until meeting everybody from clan asking my cp members if we leave or not. So was well known what are we planing to do.

 

Its not about your CP but clan. But if u think its so easy, why dont u make CC with Ba and why dont u go kill EN or US? Waht was next, olympiad? So why dont u go farm olympiad like others and why we have only 2-3 farmers with brooches while enemies have 7-8 farmers. Than u think its so easy to feed tank heroes or u think we dont know tank heroes are important? As about any other organisation, if u think its so easy, why dont u made it with HB or BA? Or why EN did not made it last Valakas for example? Your reasons make no sense at all, im sorry to say u.

And again, without getting something. At start of Helios all drops were sold and shared equally to people. So what exactly means nothing? U got absolutely same as other people got, u wanna deny it or? Again some false propagandas like really?

And it is important about reason of leaving? Why u would be part of meeting, when u was already 100% sure u will leave clan after meeting? Tell me 1 reason, why would we tell U future plans of our clan?

And technically i just summed up parties who left at that time, didnt name reasons why they left. Also bblQQ PT left earlier...

 

im not playing this game for long i dont know which tactic/politics are best which not but time shows that who ever leaves our clan no matter the name of tag and trying to make his own plan he sinks after 1-2 months

 

@Hax

I do not know, maybe your intentions was really pure (i believe were), but at the end it looks like:

1. Logy is leading TH together with Ultimated,
2. Hax back to the game,
3. Unofficially Hax took a Ultimated position,
4. Many new changes in clan appear,
5. Few drama, because of new changes show up,
6, Situation wasn't acceptable for some cp's (including Ultiamted),
7. People start complaining, speak to Logy, but nothing changes,
8. Ultimated decided to leave clan and make his own,
9. Few party decide to leave and join Ultimated side,
10. Hax become a new clan leader of TheHorde ^^

I am not a judge, but everything is possible

So to end this discussion, everyone have something behind ears. Ultimated got his chance as clan leader and did what he could. Now like i said Hax is the leader of the top opposition clan (Logy i am not lying ) and time show up what kind of leader he will be ^^ Last days shows, that i start believe a good one, personally i would give a chance for a new Distinguished King

 

Why u talk to me about HB like i was leader? I never said is easy and that's why i was here all the time for the clan to help in anything that need.

At start of Helios i was not there and i talked for mass pvp about raids. There were ppl that were crying to u that they don't come for pvp cause they don't get anything. My point of that was that i never cared for items and helping clan when need and your point is that i make propaganda. What to say more!

You had the answer before u just make the question.

 

Cool story. What you think and what is the reality is totally different. We wiped many times BA cc without being with EN around ( 4RB , or even on siege zones ). Talking about us all the time is showing how jealous you are and how fan you are of our work back then. It's fine Logy , and I'll quote Rio about psychology : "blablabla , deny , blablabla".

Why people didn't followed ? Because they are just like you , close to their farm , pixels matters more than the fun for a lot of people

The only thing that could justify this is the fact that you're boring to fight against.

 

Your reasoning fails at the first point.
-1. Ultimated went on a break from game.
0. Ultimated didn't like what happend during this time and stopped leading.
1. Logy was left alone with his little time to lead.
2. Hax filled in the position of leading the clan officially.

 

just read few post before...

Officially he became a leader after all this drama happens.

 

Someone doing unofficially job of a leader and filling in the position of a leader are actually 2 different things. Your authorities differ in those 2 cases.

 

1. Logy was left alone with his little time to lead.


well pointless to discuss. I really thought Naito changed, but he again trying to make some nonsense propaganda just to make some drama So for U personally, if u wanna speak with leader of our clan, pm me only and not Hax, rest of community u can pm EternalNab

 

@Logy

I didn't start speak about ally HB and EN - it never happens, on that siege i died from Kenga hits, in the crest room. They could take this castle easy, but do not wanna take a castle which belong to the new oppsite clan so accept the trade.

Also i didn't start discussion about You and Hax as the leader, just said what was obvious and Hax admit it, you tried deny and start making it more complicated, less clearly than i said. Also called me a liar, so where is my propaganda just to provoke drama ?