Core Daily Discussions Part 2 - Clans, PvP, Olympiad etc

Because Rio paid that with his own adena for sure

 

A bow would never have finished on Lethal or bbl bro , you know it.
As far as I know , one frag dropped from dragon, so it is clan item.
To make it fair , it's their job I agree , but no one is complaining that they are always getting everything first , but that's your problem.
BS was a DKP clan, that's the secret behind.
A lot of things changed when TH popped their first helios ring. Olympiad first and then mass pvp , because as Hax said , when you have less heroes , you will have trouble in pvp. "Slaves" aren't the problem as I said already , "slaves" are getting one shotted for most of them. But then EN has to deal about many "important" targets as far as I know , while as Hax said for TH it's "kobe and Brah" , it's only this dude.

About the self calling clan pvp , does EN pvp even from time to time ? If yes , it's their right to call themselves pvp clan. And as I said already , people are playing when then want even if I doubt the 70 people at 4am were 70 live people.

 

If EN drops bow (and no other fragments on EN) and kengaa makes it lvl1 and gives it to TheTruth for permanent use, I will step down as leadership of TH

 

We never got our hands on a bow, Hax was ready to pay for one with his own money though, so makes sense it would be his.
If EN droped a bow, are you telling me that it would go to thetruth who might be very stacked but doesn't have the best party to support him, rather than kobey or notbrah who are full stacked, have the best parties in EN to support them, and have been in clan longer than anyone else ( i don't know if that's the case i don't know EN history, but i try to compare with rio's situation) ? It's not only about pure fairness in drops distribution, it's also about optimal efficiency. A dragon weapon involves a lot of investment from the clan, so it better be as usefull as possible to secure future incomes which will help balancing it for the rest. Call me slave if you want, but I don't see anyone who would deserve this caster and be able to make good use of it more than rio, so there's simply no drama about it.

 

You right.. Valakas fragment was dropped. And it went to rio. You know what? If u ask me he deserve it. Or they would give it to some random dude who cash out after 2 week? Prolly there was a meeting about it who agree or not.. And well need tons of money to finish (EN atm can agree i guess).. They was able to finish so.. Kinda gj.
If one day a thrower will be dropped well.. Im not sure who got it. But lets hope today dragon will be drop that and we will see.

Every 2 weeks is time to time.. Maybe you are right with it.

 

I'm not only talking about caster. But anyway if you look about this closer , at one point , it will be always the same , and there is no chances for those who are less stacked to become as stacked as those who are getting everything as first, except if you're using L2 Store to farm.

I don't care about any drama , people are asking why they are called slaves and it's only about opinion , everyone can have his own.

I wouldn't be surprised to see TheTruth with a bow dropped , he is in EN since almost the beginning , he joined with Severance clan as far as I remember.

If you're not breaking the circle of the drops are given just because it would be efficient , you're never giving a chance for people to step up and to be in a position to claim drops as important dd. That's why this game is suffering a lot , you can't show any sign of "top" party now because L2 store has too much weight in the balance.

 

Th has been farming almost everything for free for 5-6months. I still remeber hax claiming how much billions per months that was according to him (when it was EN farming it). (300+ no?)
After all this farm, Which cp in TH (other than Rio cp or Ztifler cp) is capable to stand on its own and face which party in EN (not counting the lowbies in pve clans who joined recently) without being utterly riddiculous?

 

Mostly the strong (full cp with good gear) groups with brooch ( rio, iron, bbl, verb / kobey, notbrah,taka, (arri ?) )rapso beat the groups without it, that's about it. Did you expect the clan to make jewels lvl 6 for all the lower cps ? No matter who wins/loose, there are top parties and normal parties. I consider my cp for example capable of beating any EN group that doesn't have brooch rapso, and giving a decent fight to those who have maybe just 1 and are not fully stacked.
Also this 300b number seems quite exagerated, and I wasn't part of calculating it, if you consider that 101/103 raids drops are kept for clan. As far as my cp is concerned, I don't feel robbed.

 

like really... the real question is , what cp from en w/o count notbrah pt , can do a proper pvp?
go back to your cave lol , even kenga and takanodan making prs nonstop

 

So you're stuck to beat the CPs that have no brooch rapso while according to yourself you're kind of skilled CP since you're outplaying most of your ennemies, why clan wouldn't invest more money in your CP ? It would be efficient to do it no?

 

First of all I just said we are capable of beating them, we are also capable of losing so I wouldn't be so cocky to say that we outplay most of our ennemies.
About your question, we joined this clan about 8 months ago, we are not the only cp here, nor are we the most active, so you can't really expect us to go from "mid clan geared, half the people without the basics" straight to top cp in such a period of time. Just like the mid/low cps in EN didn't turn into top parties despite EN winning everything for a much longer period of time, the clan can help but ultimately what makes you really step up is how many euros you wanna spend/how many ours you can put into farming stuff.

 

From what i hear clan already invest in to this cp, that's why they switch from low party to the medium one. Idk how much, but when Shinable joined TH was not even half shot. Now in short time and without donations she looks quite fine.

Magic ? Or Hax leadership ?

 

she started gym and get stronger

 

wtb more brooches/tanks/mages for my cp. and most of all, 20ms ping instead of 200ms...

 

Some ppl can put more effort($$) some ppl can use more skills and so on. Thats why if u could give a mage weapon to 1 dd between allab and arri is obvious who will get it. Same for th will give prolly a dragon bow to bblqq instead of koko88 or naito. If u want to be more clear about it even if i can give a brooch lvl 6 to a guy with set +8 wont help him to do ****.
Dragons drop close to nothing valuable so u need alot of kils on them to get anything remotly close to worthy. Raids is a different story but i wont go down on it. I dont think the group that was raiding every single raid for at least 2 years did ever took anything from those raid to gear the clan.Hell even ppl who dont come gainak constant deserve drops?.
Man up theres no clan in the world who would ever carry such a dead weigth

 

I can't agree more with you. Except that 8 month ago , a guy like Seivlas had almost the same gear as Rio/Hax no?

Nov 17, 2017

We aren't talking about basic stuff here.

 

Seivlas has ( or had because he doesn't really play anymore since july) a pretty good gear, but nowhere near hax ( he had 0 lvl 6, 1 lvl 5 when we joined TH), probably close to what deathangel had I guess yeah.

 

Helios rings max lvls, iron and rio mages were planned when they annouced libra. It was looong before since we know they delayed it a lot.
Helios rings are pure fail from Kengaa who considered rings more valuable and let helios bosses free for like 4-5 months. We didnt needed pvp and do dps race so we could afford lower lvl dds to not screw drops etc.

Riordan equipment is not even his. Poison share lot of things to him.

Jik detto, he became strong after update and libra.

This is again thing u can fix. Just tell to people like Kengaa/Tranks to borrow their items to Arri/Rewind and EN will be twice as strong instantly.

And don't say EN have only Kengaa, Brah.
People like Tranks, Selenia, TheTruth are completely stacked, they can be equal thread as Rio, Hax, Iron if played properly.

But here we go to same problem im speaking last 2 years. EN lack organisations, proper experienced players, system and Leadership who will not put their heads to sand and dissapear from everywhere and let their members down.

 

Tranks quit like 2 month ago, I believe and Seleniia party is closer to join TH than go back to EN

 

like rewind is not running with +17 caster or taka party has no gear