Elcyum price change in Salvation 5.0

It seems most of the ppl, GM included, are forgetting this is a game and ppl should have fun. I really can't understand what is the mental distortion which pull the managers to set this game impossible to play for the ppl which can't pay. What is the target? Have only paying ppl play together? What is the problem to make available all the quest and the items obtainable playing? For now ppl like me can't do fishing quest and it's absurd. Fishing is a part of the game, why ppl can't do it?(and this is just an example) It should be an advantage because this way the market goes better (more ppl can buy). In my opinion the ppl with PA should have something extra; I don't think the point is to deprive the non PA player of the game mechanics. If i could have very high equipment farming 2 years and a PA player can have all in 2 week, it's ok to me...but today is not so.

 

This wont solve the deflation issue, nor will make people fish at a loss if the elcyum price turns out to be below the cost of baits. The problem is nobody will sell to NPC so NPC will eat adena for baits, but wont give back for elcyums, people will sell them to ebayers, wont be at npc for 1 mil, the market price will definitely be higher, but the adena in the system will keep falling and prices will go down even faster, allowing everyone to fish wont do anything good as long as it will be breaking even at most.

 

And you forgetting that NCSoft and Innova are corporations, that have to get money...
Fishing is a content of game true. but otehr comapnys do the same its called DLC...
Its gives advantage? Same as In battlefield premium that gives you fatser match join aka VIP. Same as WoT with premium ammunition.
I have PA. And honestyly i dont running in PvP set +10 weapon +14 and full jewelery. PA Gives yuo posibility to fish and 2x exp 50% drop rune... Not full items

 

And loose ppl allow Innova make more money....strange tacitcs!
In fact, in my opinion, Innova should give more advantage to PA and unlock all the content for all player. This way i'm sure the ppl will be happier to start, to go on, and even to pay....you don't need to be a genius to see this could be a better choice than now

 

It's proved than having less people buying more expensive is better than having more people buying more cheaper. This is the math corporations are using. Btw, don't be offended, they don't give a *** about most of players as soon as they keep top donor. Like someone tell, even if 20 ppl only on server, as soon as they make profit, it's fine for them.

Welcome to the real world.

 

As I can see it's only a good choose from gm's.
Till now there was an easy and fast way to get adena. So the price was growing and growing. Now they added something where ppl buy from shop and sell it to others like GE from ch. So it means less adena on server. No fast income from fishing? That's good for those who is not paying. Why? Because the price of everything will go down and if You had a way to gather adena without fishing, after some time You will be able to buy more for less adena...

And that's only a good news for those who starts playing. Just thing a new player came. Played some time gather adena without paying euros... He noticed that have no chance vs those who pay euros and he left... Just think of gathering 100b for a new player without euros... Its insane amount vs what mobs/raids drop. So this change will make people who pay euros vs no euros more equal eventually.

 

Fishing was fast income? - joke of 2018
Donators = non donators eventually - that one deserves a medal..

 

Not fast but stady and sure income while being afk

 

As I can see You got no Idea what are You talking about. "Nieko keisto glusas kaip bato aulas. Nieko naujo is taves"

Lets take a look what was 3 or 4 years ago on this server, when adena was close to 0 on what You spend on shop and what You get, by killing mobs and other stuff that ppl do. The price of PVE weapon 1sa was 6b +/- and when event like fishing came in what happens? To make pve weapon 2 sa is way more cheaper, but price of it grow up more like 3 times... Lots of **** that helps to grow amount of adena on server... and it was only for those who pay... and nothing was made to solve that. For those who not pay gather 6b or 18b it's kinda big difference...
Now they start to realize this and make some changes...

 

read this about your's fast adena income from fishing

3-4 years ago there were way more adena dropping from mobs than we have now.. so naturaly inflation came and everything risen in price..
dont believe about more adena? - 4 years ago in dragon valey from "snakes" (dunno exact name of mob) in 1h u could make more than 150kk (and thats without drop runes) - and with every class not like now in pavel with double drop rune and only dread
3 years ago in crossroads 10kk/mob not enough? 7 mobs total respawn 10min (so in 1h 420kk) not enough?
not even talking about antharas expedition on start with blessed r99 items and so on..
or soh with with 1h farm like 20 bound armor pieces +2-5 weapons..


and for non donators to be equal with donators innova should make everything at l2store for free.. otherwise the gap will be even bigger with each new stuff they release there.. so like i said
your "donators = non donators eventually" - deserves a medal..


also fishing event was introduced last year.. before that event prices of items was actually 20-30% higher (because of those craft packs alot of overenchanted items was released to market cheaper)
about pve weapon for 6b idk where u saw this on core.. on NA servers maybe but definately not in core

 

I bought my fists then for 6.5b adena... It was standing in ah for a weak or so...
The price was higher for armors coz of fishing, it went down. I am not talking only about normal fishing items from shop... There was other fishing events too...
And after first fishing event everything changed up side down. Look at epic juv price? It's only 20% or 30% higher? LOL!!!!!!!

Every small change can bring big differences in game. And fishing did it. No need to go farm mobs to get adena... Just leave pc on and go afk... Can people without pa do that? Can they get pa for adena?
The gap between those who pay or those who are not become bigger and bigger. And new people who Just started when they figure it out, the difference between those who pay and not just quit... Take the amount adena You need to buy something multiply it by 3 now. That's equal to time x 3 that no ebay player will have to investto get it too..

 

after first fishing event prices of epic jewels also dropped..
right before that event b anthy price was like 50b, b valak 40-45
after fishing prices dropped to ~30 for anthy and 25 for valak, then when baits finished prices was stdly increasing bit by bit, until 2nd fishing event and then again dropped a bit, now 5 months after b antharas rising in price and valakas dropping..
if u compare price with what was like 5 years ago ofc thats like 2x the price.. but.. dont forget inflation is bound to come to any server after big term..

 

Are You sure about that? B anthy and b valakas price didn't change alot. Price 4 years ago was B anthy 30b B valakas 22b, Lindy 18b. Do you remember the price of ruby/opal and other of a kind? Or should I remind You?

 

Maybe you should "remind us" what were the prices of ruby opal etc 4 years ago, yes Also lindvior 18b 4y ago? or the rest for 20-30? Nice. Even if that was the case, which it definitely wasn't, 20b then were nothing like 20b now

 

That's the whole idea of what i want to say. 20b It's not the same as it was before. But for people who are not donating to reach that much adena is not the same too. And lowering the amount of adena on server will bring us to where we was before. And will bring some life to server too maybe. Ask Your friend why they left?
If people hunt and will be able for adena that thay get buy something, the game will be more attractive. And if You want to speed up You can donate...

 

inflation dude.. inflation..
u cant show any server (on any mmorpg game) which after 2-3-4-5 years will have same prices on anything in it as at start..
u can even check classic or any other (be it private/pirated server or any official one) first days mats and etc cost almost nothing because there is no adena in server.. after a week or so prices goes up, after 2-3-4 weeks prices go up even more..

 

Stop play lineage too then... And go look around. 1st day 1st week yes but there is lots of ways how to stop inflation. And that's what in my opinion gm's started to do now.

 

Ure missing a point here @Eviss
Its all about MAKING aka farming adena,not rely on l2store.
It the end it doesnt matter 10bil ,or 100bil as long as u can FARM it and be able,slower,to catch up with others donators.
Atm its simply NOT possible to do so vs visa users.

 

Start a new char without anything and try to reach goal 10b or 100b... Are You stupid enough to say it's same?

 

I can speak as non donator and new player.
Low adena drop
Fishing not possible

At lvl 94, without waste of money, i have 65kk thanks to fortuna quest and some vollodos quest (not a lot because need vitality go make lvl). What can I buy? How will I ever reach billion needed for r95/r99 equip? How will i get good shirt or talisman? NEVER

Someone said innova don't care because low ppl which pay a lot is better than low ppl which pay a little, but i'd like to see how 50/100 ppl will enjoy to play on a desert offi server