[25.01.2018] PvP tournament - pros and cons

AS for me
Sets pvp +10 full atri ofc
Weapons +10/12 PvP 2SA 300 atri
Jewelery all possible epics (no idea if Ring of creation 2nd lvl is good idea, but well)
Skills +20 all (enought codex imortal of how its called to make all skills +20)
NO BROOCHES
NO ABUNDANCE
NO SAYHA
NO SHIRTS (only octavis/istina shirt)
YES longing
YES 7s
Cloacks class
NO AGATHIONS like taurus.

All 105 or 108 lvl to get APs

No posibility to Augment weapon

Make as much equal chanes as possible.
This is how i see it should be.

 

Yeah, it will only be worth participating if everyone have the same time of gear, on NCWEST we had an event called battle tournament where's everyone was lvl 85 with same gear etc and the winners in the end got yellow name. Would be kinda of fun to have something similar to it if it is made properly.

 

add to that no 2-3rd prof skills (game wasnt ment to be played that way.. its another loophole which can be abused to the max with proper setup)
also cloacks should be exalted since mass nobless is viable in 7x7 - but this way pvp would go longer

 

It's very bad idea to make any PvP tournament. I think more players prefer more balanced stuff like l2store events. Everyone waiting, both from Core and Ramona server for You dear Innova to introduce this precious things: http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/store-promos/ancient-kingdom-cloaks-08232017.php

 

what same gear will be use if this tournament come( lvl armor, weapon dragon or pvp/epic jewells/agathions)

Jan 26, 2018

I think 5 min for 7vs7 its really to low, maybe for olympiad but for 7vs7...

 

like this 3 dagger setup will be strongest.
But once again. The best of the best are speaking ))

 

Yes yes we know ure pushing this to be feoh/yul fiesta. But heres the idea: make 1 dd class max per party.

 

While I agree on the no agathion part the no brooches, no abundance, no sayha is stupid, these items provide a lot more defensively than offensively and I understand that you havent played healer/iss but this will just turn in to who ever crits first and kills the iss and one of the healers and then its gg.

 

depending on the rules of win/loss/draw and restrictions to classes
should be like was in amc 1 dagger/party
also shouldnt be allowed 3x mages (if setup must be max 2 heals+1 iss+1 tank) cause that might be forever to finish with new barrier
+no subbing for buffs and etc (like all dd's with pom(or even +healers with it) + different lv2 harmonies) and etc.. or a rule ~30s for buff (should be more than enough to buff all party)

about win/loss/draw lets say time limit is smth like 10min and after if not all dead how win counts (more ppl alive?, draw if both have at least 1 alive, after draw rematch? - could take forever for 1 side to fail)

Jan 26, 2018

like ruby (20% final dmg) + red cat (12% dmg (or even 24% for dagger) + amethyst +15% pvp dmg (also remove cele) + 20% p/matk +20% skill power from abu isnt dmg increasing? + from sayha (if 10) +15% pvp dmg and 9% skill power..
those numbers are way more than ~5k defs and -some pvp dmg from your listed stuff

 

If no evas runes, windy scrolls (paagrio might, barrier?), no jewel augment, possibly warlord and saya seer might be effective.

 

PVP tournament can be good with Paulina equipments. So everybody have same conditions.

 

Funny how only TH pushing for tournament with top items

 

obsi, jewel for debuff resistance, p def, m def. then there is pvp def from abundance , p def or m def from shirt (and probably stuff that I dont remember right now). Well you can agree to disagree but the usage of brooches will make it more interesting in accordance with the number of same types of dd's we will be allowed to have, if you just want to go watch luck matches its your call. I personally want to see people use different brooches, different AP setups different shirts, etc.

There is a lot more fun when you have people with their own custom setups and not just army of clones who depend on a lucky crit to win.

 

Funny that you can't win pvp in the server cause no gear, but when you can fight with all possible gear on equal terms, then the excuse will be that full gear is noskill so those handless TH members are advantaged. If you wanna figure out who is the best player you don't make giant changes to the meta right before the tournament.

 

Btw folks no matter how much you want to turn this in to "interlude" the game has moved on there is no point to exclude most of this, I personally want to participate even if I will lose badly, screw up or anything like that, I will learn and see something worthwhile to watch.

 

The best way is to include all items except lvl6 brooches.

 

The only funny party is that only very few people have the real experience with that much gear. Just because you get handed full gear doesnt mean you are fully aware of the limits and capabilities it brings. And none of you clearly said a single reason why tournament shouldn't be made with basic gear.

He was saying that all those items in the end bring more offensive power than defensive as per your argument not that they do not give defensive at all.

 

this only shows that you again don't know how the game works.
All items accounting ingame boost defensive capabilities a lot more than offensive ones.

 

you're wrong. Defensive boosts are bigger ingame than offensive ones.

I can tell you an easy reason: the whole game is balanced with the top items in mind. On Lowbie items you kill everyone A LOT faster.

 

and gl beating mage team with 11 rebirths on 1 char (even more if count 30-50% ones from lesser shirts/sayha)

just make a test 1dd (mage or archer) put all lv5 brooches for dmg +abu (duno if th have lv10 sayha on sm1 if have try to make it on that person) and on yourself all def ones and check if u not gonna die on skill use+br+abu 1shoted.. then tell that its more fun when u dont have a way to counter 2dds (or even 1 with some brainy tactics and good assistance)..
about shirts - they are bad (maybe only if pdef/mdef one and only 1/char so its either u focus pdef or mdef)..