Whats the Future Plans of Innova with Core / Ramona

Strange thing. They buy the game license but can't do anything.

 

Worst part of being community manager is the community axaxaxax

Not sure if the koreans are aware but the game is "a little" broken atm. Buffing exp and nerfing drops for new players in hope for a few to cash-out after getting 1-shot by everything at lvl 101 is terrible. And we not talking about microtransactions here, more like 3x the value of a car. Not many are willing to do it (or can) so CP's looking for "lvl 102 geared something" find no people.

 

We are discussing changes to it, so maybe we'll have something else.
Not confirmed yet.

 

fix dragons, fix frost and all good

 

The game license means we can supply the game "as is" on a certain territory, providing translation (KR->ENG), support (eu.4gamesupport.com) and info (me). We can also send them feedback and requests. The game license forbids any changes to the game without the devs.

Even "not main content" like events. For example, the fishing wasn't approved by the devs, so we offered them another L2Store option for that period and are currently negotiating it.

So if we go back to the main topic of this thread:
Yes, we have tons of ideas on what to do with the server.
No, this doesn't mean all or any of them will be approved.
Yes, I will still fight for every possibility to bring more people to this server.
And I will be here bringing news and info, even if you don't like me
And I will be here to continue monitoring your feedback on the changes that happen.

We could merge Core and Ramona this year, but we believe providing Dimensional content is important and we're still not completely out of options/plans to try to bring life back to Ramona.

we had significant progress in negotiations about dragon changes last week, let's cross fingers now and...wait for a solution.

 

Atleast something. Thanks for the new information.
About merge, try not. Maybe transfer.

 

I dont see the problem with l2. If you do baylor 25 million times you can afford one level 5 brooch jewel. A few more million kartias and you make that lvl5 jewel into lvl6. As an eternal being with unlimited time to live and breath i have to say linage is very balanced in ways that people can gear up and compete fairly against each other.

psWTS modify scrolls pm.

 

Homegirl @Fragola not to shade or anything, I like your work. But, how can someone bring people to the servers and " bring them back to life" in your own words. If you can't mess with drops, l2store etc; hero returning pack is not gonna cut it.

You are making progress that is awesome, but let's say the dragon clicking gets "fixed", different other subjects gets worked on, but that won't help Core and Ramona grow, because they are completely apart from the new player. As for example, you know the amount of people Ramona had before that tarot madness, even with brooches in store was good , you introduced l2store and that thing died, like decapitating someone. My point being how can you help bringing new people to the server by targeting your main problem, and that main problem you cannot control or edit. To answer the previous concern I guess there is the premise that you have many ideas as stated in your post above.

You have a whole community to "help" you, well at least the council of leaders opinion on what could help your ideas. I believe none can help your ideas to bring players than the players themselves, sometimes they are hard to deal with, but in the end that is your goal, as I understand your post above.

 

I know sometimes i talk rly harsh, but thats cuz it looks to me that u guys do everything u can to shut the servers down ( its hard to understand for a player why we need to have 4-5x RU prices , why drops are nerfed literally to 0 etc...)

Im not the one to tell u what to do, i know that, but we as players could give suggestions, maybe u guys should start a real poll of what players want, that would be a good start, Players would feel that their voice will be heard
If u merge Servers , then the players know exactly what was ur intension at the beginning: it would look like u guys just wanted to milk more money of the same playerbase, then throw them back into the same pool again = Bad
The Dragon changes are nice and all, but in the end they only "Help" the winning side = more people will prolly quit ( not sure about that, but for sure it will not help the newcomer on the Servers, since its a long time until they will see a dragon anyway )

If u can not do something against drop rates, which i might belive u, then do atleast somethings about the cheaters out there ( which is n ur power u cant deny that) u know following/targeting people in hide etc
U can also Rework PA system as someone above said
U could help the people to change their class insteed of make them quit , cuz not many will reroll after putting thousands of hours and thousands of euros into their toons ( main change in L2 Store )
Im also not sure if that is in ur Power, but u could offer to newbies alot more help , and i mean serious help, not a 1 month paulina set, cuz then they quit just after that month ..
Thats just a few ideas, i bet if u start a thread about what the community wants, it would be filled with ideas, and out of those 1000 ideas im sure u could take a few that would work

 

At least 90% of people who quit Ramona did it because they realized its impossible to compete against L2store spam from some players.

Solution is to have new p2p servers. 10 euro/month normal acc, 20 euro/month premium acc with 2x XP/SP/Drop/Adena and multibox. L2store only cosmetic items and things like my teleport scrolls. Maybe you can add also race change/class change if you really need more money

 

so it's that custom l2 aka classic.

 

So if u cant change mine things which killing the server, how u expect bring there life? Openede new server and in less then year he dead, its not example for u how * ur l2 store prices and game mechanics is vs no euro spenders players?

Just give us server transfer ticet and let us go to ru :x

If u have ideas to help the server, what are u waiting?... u now even started fail with l2 store events to get more money, i talk about sayha event. Who the hell threats with custumers like that and expect stable online.. just awfull.

 

As I've already written, we can still give our suggestions to the devs and that's what we also do.

We've been there already, and I have a box of your suggestions in my head from all the threads about pretty much anything that usually become threads of "fix the game for us".

Correct me if I'm wrong:
1) you want lower prices in L2Store, at least -30% lower "because RU has it lower"
2) you want better item and adena drop
3) you want more people on the servers

that's pretty much 99% of what people say every time I post anything.

Now seriously, if you have something else to talk about, I can make a "real poll".

because 1 and 2 - not possible without the devs and kinda tricky as simply increasing adena input will only lead to inflation.
3 - working on it

I know people were mad for Zaken drops nerf and Elcyum price decrease, but these items were not meant to be sold to NPC. It's not normal that players have to farm outdated content(!) to sell items to NPC(!) so they could gear up in the current content. Or it's not normal that Elcyum was used to generate adena, instead of in the designated craft processes. These issues were addressed by the devs and currently, we see deflation on both markets which is caused by a) decreasing adena volume and b) decreasing population...ah and c) "forced tarots" which wasn't the intention but market got more item supply, so the prices went also down.

The Elcyum price nerf heavily affected fishing because people got used to generating adena with fishing via it, and in turn decreased perceived PA value, so we are thinking of other ways to support PA atm.

So the way I see it from the PoV of a new player:
1) Yay, I got 85, now how do I get better gear?
2) OMG, it costs billions and I farm a couple of millions daily, jeez, there's no way I can do it as instanced drop modify scrolls (what are those?)
3) I'm 95 and still in Paulina, buffs are off, I'm without clan/party, I can't farm anything alone, it's not fun at all.
-> quits.

while in my ideal world it should be like this:
1) yay, I got 85 and found some people to play with, how do we gear up?
2) ok, instances the way to go, we farm some packs and are able to get better gear, but it takes way more time
3) we found a clan and having some fun with people, doing daily and weekly instances, slowly gearing up
- > stays

If I still get it all wrong, do let me know so I could do that "real poll"

1) not possible without the devs
2) already working on this - negotiating possible changes with them

We can't make main class changes - the devs do not approve this.

A lot more help with what? I'm serious.
This game is very unfriendly for new players, but simply giving them more gear or level (that's how it always went anyways) isn't going to solve the issue. Progression is easier with each update - the game nurses you with levels, gear and buffs until Lv.95. And you're saying it's not enough. So, what would be enough?

In L2 Classic the game kicks you out in the world without any gear/quests/instructions/buffs, still, Skelth is growing. The only in-game "support" we did - we give the new char "newbie" support box to support their XP progression to Lv.40 because the server is mature and partying before 2nd class isn't a thing anymore.

Ok, here you go: https://eu.4gameforum.com/threads/655763/

 

1 - not because RU have it cheaper, but it's ridiculous what we have here.. for example in my country avg salary is 400-500€ with taxes and other expenses for game peoples can spend 10-20eur/month.. that means 1-2 pa only... 0 chances to participate in l2store events.

2) yes, we want. you mentioned lower prices "item to store", and i'm pretty sure you will do that soon, but then need to increase drop rates from bosses because now it's just a joke..

we talking about l2 or other game? looks like you didn't play same game as other peoples.. we didn't ask you give free gear, but increase chances to get them would be nice. and not twilight or seraph, but normal eternal/helios items.

 

Keep it civil without personal attacks on me.
I was replying to a suggestion "help the newbs".

 

95% of new players sadly see it as first option. There are very few people who see it different only because they got friends or are very skillful and experienced to survive alone and find a way to play and reach proper level to current end game zones and instances.
For some unexperienced rookies its pretty hard to make from 95 to 100+ alone or in current enviroment.
And experienced L2 players, well, they propably have experiences with this system of game, so most propably for reasons people named above they not gonna join Core. So its like magic circle.

Core is mature and partying before lv. 100+ isn´t a thing anymore.

 

First of all, thanks, very good post of u for a long time and i mean it, thanks

well u know aswell as we do, that the new players and all players would be ok to run in paulina sets at lvl 110 IF ALL the server would have to, but giving people with €€€ such a big boost compared to ppl without €€ makes the ones that cant/dont want to spend thousands of euro quit.
I know ur a company, u need to earn money, but as i said before, if this server would have 5k players, u could take 20€ average of every player per month, which would be better money then current situation of taking 500€ of 50 players every event ( and in same time losing players)
Cuz even the biggest spenders will stop as soon as they see they dont have the need to spend anymore cuz simply no one left to "kill" right?

This game has come to an lvl, that someone with good gear ( worth 5k € ) still get one or 2 shottet by stacked chars, this is nothing wrong, but it demotivates those people to farm/spend for better gear, cuz the price is just to high, lets be honest u need 10.000 € in ur char to be stacked atleast, not many can or want to put it into a game that might tomorrow close the Servers ( well maybe not tomorrow, but at going rate this Server has max 1 year future)
I know theres not much u can do , but u also have to see the Players pov, theres nothing to do ingame for Players that dont want to spend

 

Ramona its a pay2win server where you gonna be 1shoted if you didnt spend 5k eur, where defensive skills works after about 3 sec and with clear msg from GMs after some lazy monday morning .

now ask yourself if its worth to play it and you will get an answer why its empty

 

@CM Fragola
the best solution would be something like classic, pay a monthly subscription to play, w/o l2store involved, only maybe for accessory, exp runes,eva runes and thats it... nothing more....

you should try to open one server like this. or discuss about it... we all know l2store ruin the game.

 

As discussion touched both servers (and topic is not gameplay related) thread was moved to Feedback section.