Lineage 2 team has been analyzing the situation on Ramona for some time, discussed it with the developers and after considering all "cons" and "pros" has decided to merge Ramona and Core. Indeed I constantly posted that we don't want to merge Ramona with Core, but the current situation on Ramona made us reconsider this point of view. The merge is planned to be performed during maintenance on April 18. Please note though that this is a complicated process, so the date can be moved 1-2 weeks forward. We are trying to eliminate all possible issues, so I hope you will understand this possible change of date. If you have any questions about the process, you can always ask here. If you have any questions or issues with your accounts, please address them to the Support Service as it's the most secure way to deal with your personal information. The merged server will be called Core(+Ramona). Schedule March 28: CH auction disabled. April 11: Character and clan rename services suspension. End of Olympiad period (without assigning Hero status). Starting adding Marks of Advance to the character creation + adding missing marks to the characters who didn't complete the quest. April 18: Server merge. Dimensional server suspension. Olympiad new cycle start (to contest for May heroes until April 30), points reset to 30. Ceremony of Chaos new cycle start (until April 30) without assigning CoC winner status for the period April 1- April 18. CH ownership reset (Excluding contestable). Castle ownership reset. CH auctions start. Dates can be changed in case of moving the merge date forward The merge details Characters There cannot be more than 7 characters on one server within the account. If there are more than 7 characters on the account, the characters shall be chosen according to the following logic: XP amount (firstly), date of creation. XP should be counted on the main class. Clan leaders shall be transferred from Ramona to Core regardless XP amount and date of creation. If there are two clan leaders on the account, the one with more XP shall be transferred. If there are the characters with the same name on Ramona and Core, after the merge the one with less XP (on the main class) will get a prefix _CO or _RA. If there are the characters with the same name on Ramona and Core and exactly the same amount of XP, the one which was created later will get a prefix _CO or _RA. The characters with a prefix shall have a possibility to choose a new name the first time they enter the game after the merge. A block of character (permanent or for some period of time) shall not influence character’s transfer. A character from Ramona will not be transferred to Core, if: its level is 39th and lower. is waiting to be deleted. Things that shall not change after merge: Level, title, XP amount, Rep. value, individual fame, skills panel, skills themselves (active and passive, their level shall not change), Noblesse status (+nobless skills), PvP count, PK and Raid Points. Subclasses and dual classes remain. All the quests in the quest journal shall remain. Mentor-mentee relations. If the mentor or the mentee was not transferred, such relations shall be broken. There should be no penalty for it. PA Points. The number of penalties on Ramona characters for Ceremony of Chaos registration cancellation shall remain. The list of the current macro should NOT remain. Friend list and block list of Core characters shall remain except for the cases when the character was deleted. Friend list and block list of Ramona characters shall NOT remain. Items All the items of the transferred characters that are kept in inventory, in the warehouse or with help of Dimensional Merchant shall be also transferred. All the active trades in auction house system shall be finished and the items shall be sent to the seller’s warehouse. The commission shall not be compensated. Character tattoos shall remain. The number of Mysterious Marks on the Ramona characters shall remain. Blood Sword Akamanah\Demonic Sword Zariche\Seven Signs - all the character’s condition shall not remain for Ramona characters. Pets Pet’s level and XP amount shall remain. Pet’s name shall not remain. There shall be a possibility to name a pet once again. The items that are located in the pet’s inventory remain. Clans If two clans on Ramona and Core have the same name, after the merge the clan from Ramona receives a _RA prefix. If the clan name matches on two servers, the clan from Ramona will be able to rename the clan free of charge. Clan list, clan warehouse, clan level and clan skills get transferred to Core. The following clan features will not be transferred from Ramona to Core: Alliances and the current war-list with other clans. After the merge, the possession of clan halls will be reset for the server. Clans’ daily quest progress will be reset for clans from Ramona. Taxes for castles on Ramona that remain unclaimed on the moment of the merge will not be returned. Clan hall owners will be compensated with the initial selling price of the clan hall. The Administration will not compensate the intentional deals before the merge to increase the compensation amount. Contestable Clan Halls Possession of the following clan halls will not be reset and will retain by the clans from Core: Rainbow Springs Chateau, Wild Beast Reserve, Fortress of the Dead, Bandit Stronghold, Devastated Castle, Fortress of Resistance. For Ramona Players Weekly count of Vitality items will be reset. For example, if a character had 0 vitality items left, after the merge they get: Non-Premium accounts - Limit restored up to 5. Accounts with active Premium - up to 10.000. F.A.Q.: No, account "separation" isn't provided. Unfortunately, no info yet. Blocked accounts will stay blocked after the merge. Yes, atm the event plan hasn't changed. Unfortunately, the devs do not plan to "equalize" the possibilities to get this old content. I personally never understood why they would do so, probably because they want another adena sink in a form of "adena for exp". Let's all hope they will tune this somehow later. Clan hall owners will be compensated with the initial selling price of the clan hall.
You are renting. Innova/NC owns everything in the game. That's in the EULA. Only thing they will have to refund if they close the server is the remaining PA subscriptions.
Considering only Low necropolis is worth in terms of adena farming (cause it has EWB/EAB spoil) then we have ONLY 1 necro in total with 6 rooms where u can farm (middle rooms). 6x9 (if u consider only "1 man army" stays in each) then we have 54. Doesnt sound as big % of total online to me.
After opening Ramona some big clans goes to new server and lost their CH on Core, maby this clans again need CH and can't buy , so after reset CH they have enough money to buy few fresh CH. But smallest clans witch buy leaved CH, now don't have any chance to buy new CH. I always have hope that this info is some 1st April Joke.
my english is not the best did i assume correclty u separate a person from his account so if i RMT/Bot/Cheat with my account u ban my account but i can come back with a different one and repeat the process?
Question 1: PA points from Ramona characters will be added to PA points on Core characters? Explanation: In this moment I have 60k PA point on Core and 45k PA points on Ramona on same account and I want to now if merge will result in 105k PA points. Question 2: Due to the fact that some of old content is not avaible in the game anymore which will create some disadvantage for Ramona players, is it possible for Ramona players to get some unique items like a bound agathion or weapon or set with some extra stats...etc, as a recognition and a "thank you" for being customers of @Innova? Explanation: I am asking this because this merge is made against Ramona players will and also because of content gap too big between servers. A decision like this could bring some players from Ramona back aswell.
Obviously people would go back to the server after receiving a bound agathion (maybe bat agathion?), no doubt here. And we, the players of Core, don't deserve "thank you" by being customers of the same company? What do you think about this thing you are calling content gap, that players in core all run with some super duper items unavailable to Ramona? Or that everybody has old LS augments, or some other exclusive things? P.S: What I am saying is, people from both servers should be treated equally. Ramona is getting some "exclusive" items, Core should also get "exclusive" items.
Yes, Core server have a lot of advantages that can't be recovered. People that started on Ramona did it because they understood that there was no chance even on Core to get those items. Whoever chosed to start play on Core already was agree with that gap but people from Ramona wanted to have same chances in getting items. More than that, Core had some events (like fishing) with full reward while on Ramona were reduced to basic. In that time seems that ppl from Core didn't complained about that advantage but now they do. Thinking about this, it's a bit selfish when you got a lot of advantages and game contents to start cry for some bound items which can't be traded, sold, moved between characters...etc just to reduce some gap. Are you like qhp which was comparing THB with Myrmidons and loosing against KsK which were more close to their value? Are you afraid of losing if the gap is a bit reduced? Well....if you are afraid, maybe you should start to do something else.
I totally agree, Core players have access to a lot of itens from past expansions and so much more and better events
Blah blah, we shouldn't complain about advantages be it bound or not? Are l2 store shirts not bound, or zodiac agathions, or augments? All are bound, so you are saying we should be OK by you getting bound items, no consequences for us? No need to give me some examples with players from your server, that's not relevant, or known or w/e. Whoever started on Ramona already agreed to not have those items that are now unreachable in-game, yet you want to have them once merged? Whoever started in Ramona knew pretty well what is going to happen - the l2store wave, people quitting, inevitable merge. If not, well I pity you. Afraid of what? Losing gap, what gap mate? I don't have any of those, yet I don't think you should have them, why would that be fair, just because you chose to play in a different server, you should be privileged somehow, instead of being the opposite, we playing in our server and not jumping around? Your logic is so flawed and one dimensional, only thinking for yourself.
Mate, what you said are stories, I am speaking on facts. Not true! Before I started on Ramona I played few months on Core when people were not so "aliens" like now and without dragon weapons. Ramona was the opportunity to "go with the wave" and to have equal chances for getting items. The fact that you decided to play there and not to come on Ramona was your own decision but for the ones like me who decided to play there I think is a bit unfair now with this merge. Another lie! Fragola was always saying on discord and forum that this merge will never happen. More than that, I am playing on off l2 server for more than 10 years and a similar thing happened with official Lineage I server. People transfered from there to Lineage II server against their will, were recompensated with unique items to reduce XP and items gap and be at least middle range of players like me that worked for their equipment for few years. So, a similar example happend already on other official server and believe something similar should be done for Ramona. And 1 more thing, someone that is playing from 2011 that saying that doesn't have nothing means that he is a big lier or he is not playing which would make you "just another forum troll".
like normaal its a fuking joke and because my clan is not rich i have to lose my clan hall that i had for years. i earnd my clan hall and now i have to lose it because of a stupid mistake thay you ppl made by putting up a second server witch was a mistake from the start. every second server you ppl put up failed its like innova never learns
We knew what she was writing, but we already knew that it would happen at some point. Specially after the introduction of tarots 1month and a half after opening?. Like we always say up in my country "There is no worst blind that the one that doesnt want to see" Also learn from facts and not words. I do agree that its unfair. And TBH not to shade what Fragola was saying but she has no control over it.
I can also said that is unfair to Core players because no one want a new server; we ask for make things that bring more people to Core instead of making a new server because they fail before with Aria. Ramona creation is only innovas decide and what we get from that? Clans in Core that hold a CH will lose them and they pretend to compensate that getting back the adena we pay in the initial auction knowing that the prices of the CH are completely different now and that adena will be useless because we will have to put more adena to at least have chance to get the CH back. We dont ask for merge either, is innova that want it because they realize (late as always) that it was a fail experiment and instead of getting a solution that not affect the players they transfer the consequenses of their bad decisions to us players.
@Innova_Team can you be more specific? I really don't understand this sentence. I have characters with clans on both servers that I use them for warehouse, now you tell me that I can't more than 1 Clan(leader)/account?
I think thats a case if you have more than 7 characters on your acc. So if you want to keep clan leaders, delete the other boxes.
Nobody is talking here of top clans. Top clan people that donated tens of thousands will probably not quit, but will also remain alone until the final closure if innova does not do anything for the other people which donate hundreds at most, not to mention those that donate nothing but are needed to keep the servers alive. If you could not declare war and start it with boxes in PvE clans, whom would you pk if those clans do not exist because only donators remain? When I meant rising adena drop from mobs, I did not mean 105 level mobs, people that farm those already donated heavily and are well geared, I meant the regular mobs, those in harnak, so people can afford +3 3x60 tw armor, I mean some instances like kartia 90, spicula, even the parna ones give something, up to 99 you can do more or less with tw +6 and that is not really hard to get as well as +6-7 shadow weapon, but after that the game ends if you do not donate,t here is no way to make money to afford even r99+6 3x120 or an apo weapon +12, a minimum to take you to 101 except for healers and ISS which can go in rags in extremis. Say you are right and, indeed, you get 300 mil an hour farming in elven, although for a full party of donators that is kinda nothing, how many of you are farming that to create adena on the server? And for how long? As of you recruiting level 99 people in rags to help them grow and ****, I mean, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah, that is the most funny thing i read all day... The real problem here is the inverted pyramid, there is no base to draw from in order to go up and innova is concentrating on milking the top donors only, they are fewer and fewer and less and less people join their ranks. Why that is happening is a complex question and answer, I have given some suggestions before as well as other people, but they are speeding ahead tot he cliffedge, actually, we already passed that, I think, we are on the final fall, after this merge Core will close in less than a year. And those that dream of a merger with the russians... First, you wouldnt want to play with the russians, they have a completely different culture and values, second, dream on, it ain't gonna happen...
Totally agree with @MaoMao . When Ramona was announced I did a lot of effort to contact and convince old friends to start together again here. Now, the situation is like this: some of them will do cashout, some of them will leave character till double XP maybe. Anyway, there were signs that Core is not very well since Ramona started because they asked in 1st month of Ramona to merge with them. Nobody did anything and continued without any care. Then, people like me started complain on discord and forum that things started to go wrong on Ramona, that all items can be aquired by store only, that mobs don't drop anymore anything but again, nobody did anything. Now, a lot of people left the server and the ones that are still logging, they are waiting for merge to do cashout. All the time, when people like me had criticized Innova's actions, got ban on discord or muted on forum and deleted posts instead of ask about more details. Sometimes I miss someone like Juji was on NA. By example @CM Fragola, I believe that she is a nice person in real life but clearly doen't have much of experience in managing a comunity. Many times she is impulsive, banning anyone that have other opinion than "pro Innova". I don't know how democracy works where she is living but clearly in democracy you are free to speak as long as you don't say injuries against someone, and you are free to prove when someone is wrong and not to kick. Till now everything I was warned about and banned was right but I'm still banned. Ofc, there are many ways to skip that ban but I don't wanna play "catching mouse" game. Sometimes I wish that that discord channel to be owned by 3rd part company where I can complain when I feel that I was punished unfair because is clear that I can't complain to Fragola about Fragola Now, after I said what the other people did, I tell you what I will do. After 10+ years of Lineage 2 only on off server, I will log only to do HB quests and then try to play something else for a while at least because I have no faith that things can be repaired and even that a new server will start, on p2w scheme I will never play again because when things start to became unfair, you can't take your money back.
Thank you, but, TBH, I cannot confirm the abusive behaviour of fragola. I have been quite abrasive, even mocking (I think quite deservedly at times) and didnt get banned, nor warned AFAIK. I am not even a real donator, so that is not a factor either. I do have quite a few years of adminning and moderating forums, so I probably have automated stop signs when I am flying too much off the handle. The reality is that new players have no chance other than l2store and this is not helping to create the community which keeps tha game alive. L2 is not a solo game, if your friends play something else because they cannot afford it, you wont play it either even if you can afford it. Once innova understands that, things might change, but it is probably too late. We understood it and are actively recruiting newbies and returnees, help them with basic gear, take them to parties as no donour would do that as they are not up to their "standards" and this is how we are building our clan, but to reach this stage, you must already level up a bit, get some gear, understand the game and most people do not pass this stage as the server seems empty and there is nobody around to help them in those stages, even shouting is prohibited if you dont pay. The conclusion? Well, I am doing my best, I give feedback from the grassroot level, if innova wants to listen, they will, if they continue same way and pretend to listen, the future is clear. Cheers.
