Is it true that Lineage is dead, not wort to play, etc.?

It might sound a bit harsh but, considering the current state of the game, the truth is no one cares about f2p players.
No matter how much they grind they will never be accepted in a competitive PvE/PvP group, support Innova with purchases, contribute to the market or bring excitement to a server.
I'm not saying it can't be done, but If you start playing solo today you need to be playing 20h/day while having great game knowledge/experience and even then it will take a very long time.
So the game model is that every reasonable person should recognize that, spend their time working IRL, earn money and then support their in-game progress by purchasing "goods" from L2 Store.
With the "nerf all drops" plan, NCSoft decreasing gold farmer's profits while selling more L2 Store. Doing that along with often ban waves when players QQ too much they decided to deal with the problem of gold farmers.

IMO, new players should make 1-99 solo in about two to three weeks by playing a few hours a day even with support class.
That must be possible with daily quests/instances so it's kind of a fixed time that the gold farmer can't exploit by grinding 24/7.
Leveling would be faster with grouping and with L2 Store boosting. Players are going to need 30day gear like Paulina and by completing their daily tasks must earn enough untradable consumables for the next day's tasks.
Profitable Adena/item farming and farm events should be available for 99 and above, that would be a hard hit on gold farmers and fewer ban waves would be needed.
R/R95 gear will become even more useless so NCSoft should push overseas the patch with R->R95->R99 upgrades.
About low-level RBs, we all know that old players are farming them having a lot more gear than the new ones.

Obviously, everything I said above is pointless, except the damage on the gold farmers, if the 99+ farm and farm events continue to be terrible and L2 Store so expensive.

 

Day 17



&Olympiad



93-94 (+leveling my 1st & 2nd subclass)
Main Dailies: Fairy settlements and Seed of Annihilation. Also made my 10 Olympiad matches quest (https://l2wiki.com/Olympiad_Starter) to get those 2 juicy https://l2wiki.com/Giant's_Energy
Did 1st time https://l2wiki.com/Istina and https://l2wiki.com/Primal_Mother,_Istina gave me pretty decent reward... 10 EAR and https://l2wiki.com/Istina's_Bracelet. Also Got lucky enough and got https://l2wiki.com/Rune_Stone! PRetty amazing reward, worth over 60kk in an auction house. I extremely recommend doing Istina, since it is a relatively easy raid boss and in the worst case, after defeating her you can talk with https://l2wiki.com/Rumiese in the middle of Istina's cavern you will get 1 free https://l2wiki.com/Gemstone_(R-grade) (aka 600k+ adena)

UgahBugah stated most of the discussions/concerns players have in my streams. Thank you for your feedback guys and keep it up!

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Day 18 & 19





94 (+leveling subclass)
Days were quite monotonical. Seed of Annihilation, Isle of Soul, Fairy settlements dailies. and killing loads of raid bosses around the map (https://l2wiki.com/Raid_Bosses).
What I discovered and what surprised me a lot is that https://l2wiki.com/Devils_Isle (previously 45+ farm zone) on gatekeeper is mentioned as 92+ and is completely empty (not even single mob). Maybe it is a part of new update.
After killing so many raid bosses I can say it is taking a long time unless you get https://l2wiki.com/Expertise_Rune_Pack#R-grade and wear R grade items to boost your levelling speed.
Went to a long time forgotten https://l2wiki.com/Garden_of_Eva and remember a lot of amazing nostalgic places.

Also, spend a bit discussing Lineage2 Lore and how interesting it is, not mentioning how much potential it has for future. WE ARE WAITING FOR AULAKIRIA!

What we find out: After awakening dual class you receive another 30-day Paulina R grade item pack. So it is definitely worth considering making a dual-class that can benefit your main as well. (having the same type of armours and same weapon. (For example for me as feoh I will get a double robe and mage weapon if I choose another Feoh or healer.

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Another thing once you reach lvl95, you get a quest called "Best Choice" from Herphah NPC and for that quest you need to collect certificates from various NPC wich 1 is from Fishing Guild for wich you need to FISH, but you cant fish without Premium, so whats up with that? How im supposed to finish this quest? Im not gonna buy premium so just i could finish this quest, so im now not only dont get buffs, cant do solo dailies, but also probably locked from the half of the content and questing...

 

Still waiting to know.... lock game content is a very bad move in my opinion

 

Day 20




94 (levelling subclass)
The day was monotonical, was sticking to my goal - to level my 2nd subclass only with raid bosses. Also reached 400milion adena point. Did Some daily quests on main and finally got my 1st R grade full drop from monsters!!!
https://l2wiki.com/Tardyon dropped https://l2wiki.com/Immortal_Sigil and it took only 3 weeks! D:
Since it was 15th of May I did https://l2wiki.com/Antharas_Nest_(Balthus_Knights) that I really recommend for everyone to do. It is easy, fast and gives guaranteed attribute crystal + special reward from https://l2wiki.com/Expedition_Volunteer's_Reward_Box#Open Box
Bot situation was getting again out of control.

Day 21



94 (more levelling on subclasses)
Killed few raids with my https://l2wiki.com/Doomcryer subclass. Also made https://l2wiki.com/Split_Destiny on my https://l2wiki.com/Storm_Screamer and it officially became my https://l2wiki.com/Dualclass. For fun and some extra adena did https://l2wiki.com/Parcel_Delivery and https://l2wiki.com/Gather_the_Flames. Gathering flames quest is changed and it gives ~450k adena for 100 quest items.
Sadly noticed that https://l2wiki.com/Uncover_the_Secret got "nerfed" and now gives only 550k adena :/ Also I can not get mother tree guardians quest since my faction reached level 2, so no more 2kk adena from there anymore.

Once again shared nostalgy about old quests, such as nobless, that was making us camp https://l2wiki.com/Flame_of_Splendor_Barakiel for days, or even weeks in order to finish the quest.

I try to delay my 95 level on main for as long as possible!!! D:

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Day 22



An entire day was taken by doing https://l2wiki.com/Legendary_Quest_Series_"Seven_Signs". It starts with Seven Signs Series and besides there one in the list there are extra quests:

• https://l2wiki.com/Seven_Signs,_Girl_of_Doubt
• https://l2wiki.com/Seven_Signs,_Forbidden_Book_of_the_Elmoreden_Kingdom
• https://l2wiki.com/Seven_Signs,_To_the_Monastery_of_Silence
• https://l2wiki.com/Seven_Signs,_Solina's_Tomb
• https://l2wiki.com/Seven_Signs,_One_Who_Seeks_the_Power_of_the_Seal

So overall 12 quests that explain the past of Lineage 2 and gives some hints about current events. A good example is https://l2wiki.com/Etis_van_Etina appearance back in 2010 and explanation about his embryo army. It shows that Korean devs are trying to keep in touch with past updates and Lineage 2 Lore itself (Marvel style ^.^ )
Quests include interesting cutscenes but in general, it is not really worth doing it unless you want to explore better Lineage 2 realm.

Me trying to be CMFrogola D:

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Day 23



94 (+level subclasses)
Daily most important stuff with main: Seen of Annihilation, Mithril Mines. Also Forge of the Gods daily on subclass for some adena.
Finished 2nd subclass to lv 80 and 100%. Entire 40-80 was done only by killing open field raid bosses, so my goal to make subclass only with raids worked out!
Started my last subclass as Hawkeye since it is allowing to make all quests really fast, making it one of the fastest classes to level.
Ended up doing olympiad for 2x https://l2wiki.com/Giant's_Energy. Talking about Giant energy - it is worth checking your clans' Clan Hall. Every hour there are 5 of them at CH NPC for 5.5kk each. It is possible to sell them for 6.5-7kk, allowing to gain around 5-7.5kk profit every hour just from that.
So, if you have a clan with clan hall - check it out all the time, there might be profit waiting for you.


Day 24


(had a small problem with youtube at the beginning, that's why so rushing at the start)


94-95 (+level subclasses)
Annihilation daily, Solo Kartia just to get free Scroll of Escape to Aden, Spicula and Istina and Freya. That was main activities providing with some income. Also Gathered some Flames to gain some adena and get few % on my dual class.
The rest of time spend levelling Hawkeye with quests in Sea of Spores and Forsaken Plains. And since it was Saturday - OLY OLY OLY!!! To get hands on these 2 Giant Energies.

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Good to see the "forgotten" 1-time and daily quests. I'm little bit sad party exp (dailies etc) <101 is quite dead. Partly because people rush levels and there is no ppl low lvl, but main reason is they don't know what those party rooms mean, how to behave in those spots and what those dailies can give (for example SOA is 500k-1 mil adenski and a crystal/ enchant chance if I'm not mistaken - not bad).

Overall It's guide / vlog for the 5 people that gonna join this year xD As many mentioned this game is ancient (in computer terms) and there are better options for 20 bucks. I play because it was the 1'st mmo I ever tried and because dark elfs look good in robes.

 

Day 25




85(+ working on the last subclass)
Most of the time it was taken by doing Octavis quest line and killing Octavis himself.
1. https://l2wiki.com/Orbis'_Witch
2. https://l2wiki.com/Decaying_Darkness_(quest)
3. https://l2wiki.com/Owner_of_Hall
4. Killing https://l2wiki.com/Octavis
Octavis is quite a difficult raid but with current classes strength level and that it was introduced as endgame raid over 7 years ago it is relatively easy.

So overall entire Octavis quest line provided me with 38,831,278 adena + some attribute stones/crystals and enchants.


Spend quite a lot talking again about drops, that is lacking... After 2 hours farm you find 1-3 materials, maybe 1 armour piece and that is demotivating. Getting something, that is maybe worthless ever few mobs is quite morale boost. QQ memories of unidentified items, their parts and tons of basic materials (aka lv1-2 are equal in this update).
Also, we agreed that quests that require fishing or any other PA exclusive feature are really unacceptable (95+ 1-time quest from Santiago and Exalted quest for example).

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Day 26



95 (+ finishing last subclass)
Finaly made my 3rd subclass lv 80 to receive all Subclasses Skills. Levelled a bit dual class and did https://l2wiki.com/Gather_the_Flames and https://l2wiki.com/Kicking_Out_Unwelcome_Guests to gain some adena + XP.



Day 27



95 (awakening dual class)

The day was really productive!!!
Finally sold https://l2wiki.com/Skull_Carnium_Bow for 199kk!! And that pushed me all the way to 700kk @95 level SO DO YOUR FREYA AND ZAKLEN!

Started doing a quest in https://l2wiki.com/Dimensional_Rift. All you need is to check quest at Tarti and enter through Ruine. I strongly recommend doing that daily, since it has a great chance to provide with amazing rewards +some shots/xp daily. Not forgetting Seal of Shilen daily for extra xp and adena.
At 95 some daily/ one-time quests are unlocked at https://l2wiki.com/Guillotine_Fortress. I started with https://l2wiki.com/The_Invaded_Execution_Grounds and followed with few other 1 time quests, that can provide with extra 15kk and are relatively easy to do (I managed to farm there duo, just avoid archers).

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Congrats bro but not everyone is equally lucky

Jokes aside, and probably a bit offtopic, after watching your streams I realized that a more or less new player won't even do half of the thing you do, or other players who have some past knowledge about the game. The game set up a custom path for you that doesn't include Freya, Zaken, Frintezza, SoA and other forgotten content. Nor that there are many or any guides for official servers. You're already a very experienced player trying out the path of a new player. The only thing a bit similar but from the perspective of a noob player was the clobberstomp salvation series, that I saw just a few weeks ago. He did put some rl money into the game and reached 100, but his series ended not so optimistic. I hope it won't end like that.

 

It's an experienced player showing new/ returning after a long break, what CAN be done. There are better ways to get gear or exp than what he's showing, but for 1 account and no pa/ clan/ CP it's about what you can expect the game to look like.

freya/ zaken gonna get changed next patch, I don't understand Korean logic why lvl 85 insta (easy to make 30 boxes with PA) has better drops (on average) than tauti.
similarly octavis, 3-stage long-ish instance (if done with proper, low lvls), that drops nothing. It's weird.

 

Actually it's more of an experiment to prove himself, and to the company in case the experiment fails, if the things that new players are saying are true. This isn't about teaching new players what it can be done, although they can learn from it, as that implies it can already be done. If you watch the stream you will see there are no new players, it's mostly players that have played L2 in some point in time.

They developed a new game on top of the older one. Not only that older bosses are somewhat rewarding, some open fields used to be rewarding as well, and changed every time bots were swarming them. Probably a new team took over development in time.

 

Well clobberstomp played on chronos ncwest and had an overdonated toon [1.000 $ +] ending up playing on classic [innova classic]
Ncwest the most expensive l2 servers ever - chronos the cheapest compared to freya and naia [freya and naia are merging due to the quitting players]
Clobber has to give up because at lvl 100 or
1) you have at least a +6 armor [he had] and a weapon at least apo +12 for warriors or apo +7 for mage [he hadn't]
2) or you will instantly quit [like he did]
Lets say 4 bill for the armor + 7 bill for the weapon no dyes no talisman no jewels no cloack no circlet nothing at all but armor and weapon [everything in game 99+ will 2 shot you pve or pvp].
That's the 100-101 wall.

I wish to andrious the best because no one in l2 history managed to climb that wall without hitting the l2 store button.

 

For new players:
If you won't gamble at farm events and sell event items u can make 2-3b per event. At many events selling event bags,pouchs,etc... are better then gambling. So if You want to have +6 armor and +12 weapon at 100 lvl you have to save adenas that you got from farm event trades.
I think Andrius can show us this way too. How many carrots will he collect and sell at galup event we will see...
Good Luck.

 

I know 5 players who did. But not using 1 character (more like 30), or using gimmics only few people know about (+box or two, so still not 1 account).

There is also trade, theoretically best income source, but trading is not really playing the game, it's watching a spreadsheet (insert eve online joke). The fact that you need an online buy character and an online sell char (a lot of items can't be put in AH) during prime time (when you presumably also want to play) doesn't help here. You need 3+ accounts online (shops, main, box...)

 

That is what I was trying to say. More than 1 account = Pa. Ok the pa is affordable -> pa salvation = monthly fee on classic = affordable.
The problem isn't the gear by itself but the mere fact that at lvl 100 you have 2.5kkk, best scenario, and the basic gear [to don't be oneshotted by mobs]
is worth 11kkk so you are missing 8.5kkk and even if you manage to collect those 11 billions you are still a two shot moving target for everything.
To get a proper toon at lvl 100 you will need something like 25 to 35 billions and you have 2.5. That's the point. Math it's simple you will need to lvl up 10 toons to gear up one.
Toon + box = 2 you need to lvl up 20 characters to lvl 100
Just multiply the days andrious needed to reach lvl 100 x 20

 

Day 28



95
Daily stuff as usual: SOA, Dimensional Gap, Guillotine Fortress, Seal of Shilen, Kartia. And obviously did Zaken, Freya and Istina, since they were ready - never skip them!


Some complaints were related with the community, that old players in PvE clans are not helpful and all they do are logging themselves and their boxes and going to farm afk, do some instances without any interaction with their clan members. There are no interests to do instances with a clan, go for Octavis, Istina, Tauti, Baylor, Balok, etc together.
But to not blame macro, we agreed it is a good feature allowing you to relax when there is a boss (f.egz Octavis 1st stage) to avoid monotonical skill spam for 10 or 30 minutes. It becomes a problem when people are relying on them for their entire gameplay, logging, setting up macro and leaving like that for hours... reminds mobile game.
Also, there was a suggestion to put back buffs to clan halls (weaker than ISS) like old days when you could get buffs from ch and at least try to go and do some easy solo content (like solo kartia) also to make an elixir of blessing crafting more accessible.
Some people don't like that dual class HP bonus is a toggle instead of passive, it makes not much of sense (even if I personally don't have an issue with that) and Clan Quests requiring to press 3 times instead of getting reward with a press of 1 button.

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Why do we even need to click "ok" for the clan points? It's like... "I acknowledge I killed 1500 mobs.... yes", we don't take the quest ourselves, it's automatic by default, imho the point acquisition could also be automatic..

But it's not really important, just annoying for people with boxes or multiple chars. Speaking of boxes, while watching stream I noticed you struggle to do dailies because of lack of buffs. There is definitely a low lvl "buffer void", but, as someone who has a dd ~100, it doesn't get better at higher levels either. For solo dailies/ rift/ gc/ hb faction (1-4 ppl small party/ solo zones) having a box iss is pretty much a must. Not having one is 30% long wait and going to bed because bored/ tired/ no time, 30% not finishing the quest because iss had to go or is too paper/ too noob/ afk / had Q partially done before, and 30% actually doing the quest. At least that's my average after 2 weeks not boxing iss, maybe people have better results xP