PA for adenas

The whole process happens inside the game, you are basically trading one item obtained ingame for a second item obtained ingame, on the same server, in a way that's allowed by the game, since the items are giftable/tradable. It does not matter that you paid real euros for one of the items first, since that's allowed as long as it's via L2Store.

 

You guys don't get it... RMT is when a player buys from another player goods or services with real money. When you give money to a company and get "euros" or "NCoins" you don't have real money anymore, you have a digital currency that only has value in each game's playerbase. So any exchange made with that currency technically doesn't count as RMT. Obviously the company is fine with players selling L2Store because that's how they generate revenue, that's not RMT though.

 

Funny, since you cant read yourself... While first part states for out of the game benefits, the second part which you forgot to highlight mentions "any other benefits" which as by definition talks about any other benefits both in game or out of game if not specified otherwise.

So you are saying, that if I give my account to someone, so they can boost me or i.e. farm raids while I am sleeping is not considered "getting the benefit of the account transfer to 3rd party"? I mean you can defend it all you want and while I understand while sharing iss between cp or some box char to enter instances is a "soft" violation, sharing raid char to farm raids 247 should not be considered so.

 

Let me be clear.
- you cannot resell services provided by Innova (with real life currency)
- you cannot transfer them (change ownership) in order to get any benefits not foreseen by the game design (which automatically means that you CAN transfer them to gain benefits foreseen by the game design, so sell them for Adena or other items if they are tradable, or sell them via gift, if they are giftable). Keep in mind this point says "in-Game items", doesn't say they have to be L2Store, your Elven Long Sword D Grade is also a service provided by Innova, and if the way you understand the definition was true, selling it to another player for 1 adena would violate this point, and it doesn't
- you cannot transfer them for any other advantage NOT COVERED in previous points. "Any other" in law documents means "not mentioned yet"

If account sharing was not blocked by another point of the rules (and it is), then no, this point would not block it. This point blocks reselling accounts, and transferring accounts to another user (changing ownership of account). Account sharing violates none of these cases. It violates a different point entirely.

However, let's look at Violations and Penalties, which describes penalties for breaking particular rules:

Decision in each case is made by Innova, taking different aspects of the case into consideration.

This point alone grants Innova the right to impose (or the right to not impose) any penalty for any violation of the Rules. Meaning they can withdraw from penalizing you for any reason they want (like let's say zero degree of danger). With the Innova's announcement that they will not investigate account sharing reports from anyone else than the owner of the account, it's pretty hard to get penalized for it (but still possible if you yourself admit it via official communication channel like tickets)

Let's go further:

8.2. Sharing your Account information with other Users.

From warning to permanent character/game account blocking, recall of the last exchange deals and item displacement from one character/account to another.

"From warning". Even if you yourself report that you've shared your account, the lowest penalty they have "planned" is a warning (and as we have said before, due to point 1 of Violations and Penalties, they can choose to refuse penalizing you if they feel like it.

 

Why you are all discussing this? Innova is just don't see a point to put some Premium membership bundle to L2 store, that can be gifted. Like there is one in Blade&Soul. They simply would need to manage these premiums manually, while implementing an automatic option would require to work. And sadly we know our game providers are bad in that case.

Adding a new L2storee promo is way easier to cover expenses then making a new feature to make people happy.

 

We are arguing about single point but in the end it does not change the fact that account sharing (which is so strictly prohibited that Innova does not care at all) can give a lot of unfair advantages and it makes no sense to treat transfer of the account as some incredibly damaging breach of EULA while ignore account sharing when in the end it has the same effect - loss of income for innova and unfair advantage for players doing it

 

It's an increase of income, since top donators have 4-5h per day to play (working otherwise) and all they wanna do is pvp and they need a driver to level them up (on full donate). If they had to level up slower than nolife low-donate players, they would no longer win everything, and simply stop donating and move on to another game. And yes, 1 donator like that probably gives Innova more revenue than 50+ "PA-only" players.

As for regular players - this game has a small community, it's not what it's been 10 years ago, finding an Iss for an instance that's not boxed is close to impossible, so it's due to the fact that some people share an Iss account between themselves, that you can actually do the instances.

L2 is a CP-driven MMO, meaning that your magic group of 7 people can accomplish much more than a group of 7 random people. If there was no account sharing, imagine 1 person going out for a drink/funeral/being late, it would simply make the other CPs do nothing that day. Parties doing nothing mean parties that don't XP mean parties that potentially don't buy L2Store. Not to mention a situation where account has two "half-owners" (as an agreement between them, breaking the rules ofc) who don't have a lot of time to play but they have opposing shifts at work , and they both donate as much as they can to that account, that's even more income.

Also nothing is unfair if everybody "can" do it. The fact that you choose not to is your own choice with your own set of consequences.

 

And again, you cant really read as I said exactly the same thing but you again left out the other part. What about all those cases where people start from 0 or have very little but have a friend with stacked tyrr which they borrow when he sleeps along with his iss and go farm atelia or raids? Is this fair? Is this not a lost income for Innova? As you and Innova said themselves all cases are treated the same as non threat and nobody gives a **** just because "donors" do it and made it part of the game. And all your arguments are also applicable to RMT, because you can buy chars, boost or whole accounts for RMT, which is fraud but when you get the same exact service by sharing your account with many other people then its magically ok? Many others would like to play this game but cant find cp or enough time to lvl up nor they have friends who can boost them. I guess tough luck for them, right?

And fyi this game would be so much better if we had 50 Pa players instead of 1 of those donators...and Innova would be so much better off

 

That would be a hard no. 50pa players can't replace 1 top donor on a monthly basis, they don't even come close.

Also what are arguing about? There are 2 kinds of rmt, from one Innova benefits, the other Innova don't care about.
As long as Innova benefits more than its losing from the rmters everything is legal.

 

You are comparing to top donors when there are very few people that can do more than 500+/month. And it was more of an idea overall not for one donors ofc...

Oh yea, lets not forget all the same donors who share accounts to get boosted also make billions of adena for themselves and friends just to cash out at the end.