[Core] FAFURION DRAGON (pve)

The first dragon 118lvl died..

 

How long did it take ?

 

~56min

 

I thought it'd ve much harder, gz

 

I think it's because they failed two times before killing it, that means it was stage 2 when it died. That's why they couldn't kill Antharas, because it's fixed stage 4.
But I gotta give it to NCSoft, they killed PvP completely and now they made PvE so hard that you need even more gear to compete vs mobs.
What would be the next genius business move when people quit PvE also? I guess L2 would just be a pixel collecting game.

 

When pve dies, then they can just turn this into a full blown l2 themed casino. Replacing instances with blackjack, roulette and sluts. Oh wait..they are half way there already

 

Lineage was one of MMO that had brain dead PVE style game.. where you do not need to do anything ( now macro is more than enough for that).. at least they added some challenge. No mechanics, no tactics.. just brain dead keyboard smashing. Ofc after all firepower > tactics. But that's how this game is by default in the current state of game.

 

Tell me MMO that does not have the same concept of pve?

 

Even though pve is simple in l2, fighting for spots and raids with other players makes it more exciting.

 

Pretty much any mmo i played had a much better pve than l2, which is ok, pve was never the fun thing in l2 but the fact that it's a fully open world with free pvp makes up for that.

 

Blade and soul, I believe WOW, Aion and probably many many more.. That has some sort of mechanics - you fail something wrong - you and your entire team is doomed.
In L2 the worst you can do is, misclick PR D:

 

Next one will be harder but most hard dragon will be Valakas

 

And once you get the strategy in place, its the same numb grinding as everywhere else, repeat steps 1 2 3 - dead boss. The only different is, it takes more coordination between people maybe and just maybe, but when you do it for the 100th time and with stacked toons its same everywhere. And just because you have to stand in one spot and run away at times does not bring any dynamics to it. It's like saying istina or tauti is good pve content because you have to run/stay close lol

 

Well true, but everything gets like reflex after the 100th time, here it took EN 1h to kill the newest and strongest boss. For example it took 1 week for the best WOW guild to take the strongest and newest boss. Do they do it on autopilot now? Yes. Do a first time player do tauti on autopilot? Ofc, just wait for someone to say run/close.
But I don't remember pve being selling point for lineage, at least to me. Back when you was dropping items from mobs, that was the interesting stuff, sieges, territory wars, raid pvp. Pve has always been means to an end.

 

Game is good and always was.
Players are problem.
Players are afraid to take challenges, compete and fight. They prefer to sit around table and do shady deals to establish peaceful farm instead of fighting eachothers.

Because L2 is game, where u need to develop your character for longer period of time than i.e DotA, LoL, PUBG, players are not mentally strong to accept long fights and prefer to farm without competition to not waste so much of their time and effort.

Developers in games like L2 can hardly change attitude of players without dramatic changes and those dramatic changes in game system would make L2 absolutely different game. So its like magic circle. Either players change and game can be competitive or not

 

You need to add things about the fact that not everyone has time to spent that much time , and order to compete against Battle Royale type game or Moba , developers should have made it easier to drops things. Not as fast as you're getting things in those other games , but let's say , that playing 4h should show you an improvement already , because you're losing faith if you're playing for nothing.

The best way to get items in L2 right now , is either donating , either playing a lot , and if you're not in both of those categories , if you're still ready to try to compete , you're meeting players that you can't play against because they have spend much more effort than you in the game just because they have a better salary or more time to play than you. Which is completely absurd when most of the players doesn't have more than 4h/day and already 4h/day is something that all the players can't afford.

I agree with you that players wants everything so easily , but there is a gap between having things easily and having almost no chance/hope to compete if you're not fully invested in the game.

 

You are missing some key points here @yLogy. People who started L2 at a younger more carefree age are now grown, have more responsibilities and less time to play. Humans are genetically predisposed into seeking the easiest, safest and least painful way to complete a task. So people naturally choosing the easy routes NCSoft provides through L2 Store. If you noticed these conveniences didn't come from day one but are being introduced gradually and often contain RNG, it's all about driving profits by exploiting human nature and psychology. Let's also not forget about the terrible management, like how they "dealt" with bots or the ever-increasing L2 Store content which are big factors to the constant player decline.
Bottom line is that the game, like the people who play it, have changed and there is no way to relive the old gameplay. If you want a more challenging game without easy routes you consider playing something else.

 

Someone give this tranpe a medal, over a year he qq about l2 store in every thread, its smth what u can proud off rly time or money, no other way play this game atm

 

@Anxxonymous
People don't even want to invest that much and with 4h/day you can make a lot of money, but not solo. They want adena to pour from the sky when they do kartia or kamaloka, but exping and making money almost never follow the same path.
A well cordinated cp with 4h gameplay can eventually start making 3-5b+/day easily.

@TranpeGG
L2store is the reason many average players can get their hands on many shiny stuff which otherwise would be pretty much unavailable to them. And as I said before due to he same reason only top clans would be having top items so average joe would have no chance in fighting them either way.

As @yLogy a lot to the downfall of the game have people crying and whining constantly and when you ask for a real argument they have none. Even if you tell some secret method to make adena they will still say it's too hard, its too long, it needs too many people etc etc.

I also agree that Innova does pretty bad job at managing the game, their actions alone could bring some positivity to the game and community of l2.