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  1. MaoMao

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    More propaganda.
    This works outside macro too. The fact that some people can see it in time does not mean it's more than a simple exploit, even if scammers continue to spew propaganda here like their deity, Trump. Everyone but the scammers and GMs can see the truth.
    Guess what, I do not care about your connections, the moment they started to encourage scammers, the game is over for me, so go on and "do the dutiful". You won't be able to scam me anyway, so no loss for the "business", one more win for the good guys, one more loss for the "bots". The server will be cleaner without small legit L2Store users.
     
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  2. zauliuz

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    isn't you was that guy in ncwest forums who write text walls about bots and complaining how it's unfair that peoples boting and legits can't play the game? now you protecting them? what's changed?
     
  3. MaoMao

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    More propaganda.
    The exploit works without macro too, the fact some people see it in time so it is much harder to scam them, does not change the nature of the cheat.

    Macro is legal, therefore=/=cheating as everyone can do it while botting was allowed only for "factors". Just try to scam some "factors", you will see what happens.

    Are you suggesting macro=cheating? I was protesting cheaters and the fact NCWest tolerated them for money. Now they don't pay anything and are banned.
    Using exploits=cheating, using a game feature specially implemented for factions to do factions is not, so, I am still against cheaters, you are the one protecting the exploit users and RMTers.
     
  4. zauliuz

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    what propaganda? if macro bot is ok, then making them red using only game mechanics also ok. or it's bad because someone lose their hard earned items in just few seconds because he was too lazy to play game as intended?
     
  5. MaoMao

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    Macro is clearly intended, pk bug is clearly not, so, are you going to continue this propaganda in spite of all of the evidence?
     
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  6. zauliuz

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    so as i said. if it turns against you it's bad... or i'm wrong?
     
  7. MaoMao

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    You are wrong, using bugs is wrong, no matter the justification, even if there was a real one and the server would have benefitted from your scams. And no, it is not turning against me, you will never scam me, I mean, not with this bug, you may find other such "normal game mechanics", though. So, keep trying, who knows, maybe one day...

    Until then, we've just finished 3 hours session in atelia refinery, I haven't even seen you or your militia around, so, what gives?
    If you are still interested, you can find me at EV doing mother tree guardians completely AFK. Try to scam me in the name of defending the server from "bots" and "non-factors".
     
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  8. zauliuz

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    if that would be a bug then it would be fixed same day when peoples started "exploit" it.
     
  9. iEmily

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    I don't understand you. But problem is simple. Some people always want to be rich in short way . it is in real life or game life. Pk bug users making that because they want to get adenas in short ways. I am sure they don't care about macro users or botting . You can see proofs at AH everyday. When they scam a player, they are putting to ah without delay.
    If they are honest about "they are making pk-bug because they don't want botting" they can kill and left them there. Also when they get the items from their victims they can crystalize and send them with mail too...
    Simple , all about getting rich in-game very fast...
     
  10. zauliuz

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    so if you know that this "bug" exists why you still on afk mode? if you didn't value your items and macro is still profitable and can get your lost gear back in few days of afk. it's win win situation.
     
  11. MaoMao

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    Well, they are fixing other loopholes like that for some time, the fact they don't move quick enough does not mean it is not a bug. Why do you think there is an option to target only monsters? You have found an exploit that allows the player to suffer PK penalty even like that. Good for you, but it is clearly not working as intended. I mean, for everyone who has a brain, of course.
    In normal circumstances, people who exploit bugs are punished. I am not saying, give back the items to the scammed people, I agree that you take a bit of a risk and the warning covers for this somewhat, but punish the bug users as you would normally do with any bug user.
    Pretending it works as intended is not going to make anyone believe it does. Let's be honest here, not even zauliuz believes that, if he did, he wouldn't have passed level 85 in the game, let alone use bugs, so he is clearly not that stupid, therefore cannot believe that BS.

    This macro has been introduced along with the factions quests so the koreans go out of town and can be charged. Their pay model is different, so, using macro to farm factions IS working as intended, if you really want to punish bots, go SoS and scam those, much better than TW, much better win for you, right? Why don't you do it? You are afraid that GMs won't allow it, right?
    I thought so... Brave with the poor PvE people, afraid to upset the powerful and the connected.

    To answer your question why am I doing it, well, take it as a challenge, go and scam me, I am in EV doing factions afk, I promise won't do anything to stop your exploits, just try to scam me. Char name: MamaBuff, if you need complete /loc results: 107,421 /46,980 / -3,720. You have at least 10 hours.
    This is not a pro domo plea, unless you consider the fact that my intention is to keep people playing here. You won't be able to get anything from me, macros can be safely setup, at least until you find a way to abuse other "normal game mechanics" which intend to make PvE char PvP while AFK as a method of punishing people that do it.
     
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  12. zauliuz

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    wait until "fix" or innova statement "that from day X all abusers will be punished" (i really doubt or they'll do anything against that). you wont find free spot even in talking island. so you want server with live peoples or full afk macrobobs?
     
  13. GecKos

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    And you think 100% macro afk they farm to buy gear?... this game is not for you if you pretend to be afk 24/7 and after rmt... i dont know why you play a game to be afk...(not cry about family, work etc..)
    You have a lot of things to do to farm adenas.. the problem is you need to be active and is much work... so better cry because someone drop item for afk macro with a game mechanics...
     
  14. MaoMao

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    Your "connection" is wrong. When management will find out that an exploit which rewards RMTers and punishes people which buy L2Store to gear up or play since the beginning paying PA and all, things will change. They won't be able to ban everyone who talks about it (basically, the whole server), eventually, word will get out and, if not that, then the Koreans will fix it, if is not fixed already in their version, because, unlike here, they don't like to lose paying customers and reward RMTers.

    You will need to find another way to make money, then, how about getting a job? It is not as bad as you may think. You can find one you like, even playing games can pay, sometimes well, much better than bug exploiting here, I guarantee you that.

    Besides, for every person you scam and quits, less chances for RMTers to sell their adena at a price worth the effort, so, what gives? An empty server is not in your interest either.

    Wow, a dream come true...
    Unfortunately, it is only a pipedream, because:
    1. The amount of dead parties shows people do use macro, even with the exploit live in the wild;
    2. Punishing bots was never intended to be carried out by a militia using an exploit or another;
    3. Revenues for Innova will grow from PA and whatnot, therefore there will be more servers open, ergo, more hunting places and kindergarten where people can start with a clean slate attracting more players.
     
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  15. iEmily

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    Ok.I accept pk-bug is legal and the players who made it are honourable persons. I left 10+ friends because of this situation. Now I am sure those people are trying to make server unplayable by new players. And I am thinking who will win at end? How is ur PVPs ? or How about parties for lvling ? Can you have new friends? Maybe you don't know but server lost many players because of ur kind (pk-makers) . I hope Innova will see their mistake and correct violations and penalties ...
     
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  16. zauliuz

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    here is a picture what describes innova and other games companies:
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    by the way, this "problem" with "pk bug" is not only in EU.. in RU peoples drop more valuable items, and guess whats happening there?
     
  17. MaoMao

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    That is absolutely normal, any company is out there to make money, however, this bug does not help the company, only the RMT-ers and is enabled by the lazy GMs which do not wish to clean up the mess made by Koreans. How to do that, it is not my job do suggest, while I do have some ideas, I am sure they know better and will find a way if they wish, but at the very least don't blame the victim and threaten people talking about it. After all, caring for your player base is your job, at least pretend you are doing it.

    The company (management) has no idea what people they pay are doing with their player base. As soon as the word gets out they have created a system to reward people that steal from the company through a "game mechanic" clearly not intended to be there (RMT-ers) and punish and chase away people playing as designed, using L2Store and giving them money as intended in the process, something will change. I think you might lose your "connections".

    This time no amount of threats, bullying and bans will stop people talking about it and, eventually, word will get out. What will you do, then? Get a job?

    By the way, my "bots" are still farming faction on macro in EV at the designated coordinates. Come and "enforce the law", make a buck in the process, if you are that good and you really are hell-bent on chasing away people that use a game feature. Come on, I dare ya!
     
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  18. Notic

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    No people. no honey, no money.

    But again your 5 IQ is not capable of making any other intellectual argument apart "play by hands" and spamming some random ******** - go back to your cave and play that other game that is so awesome, why you spend hours crying on forums of the game you dont even play anymore? Instead of promoting simply killing afk macros which takes 1min you support shady game mechanics which makes people leave server en masses. You cry there is no pvp on server at the same time support killing one of the few remaining methods people can make adena which is by far also one of the easiest ways to interrupt. How stupid can you be?
     
  19. zauliuz

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    if your 200IQ brains say to bot while peoples hunting bots for profit then i have no arguments for this discussion.
     
  20. Notic

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    Good tip, probably exceeded your limits with this one, but has nothing to do with the underlying issue we are discussing here.
     
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