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Allow f2p or dead next year

Discussion in 'Archive 2.0' started by Intheas, Oct 27, 2019.

  1. Intheas

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    Let f2p drop adena to buy SG and shots from grocery to keep progressing. I will continue to pay but do so much happier than when I am actually forced to pay and also when not sure if the game will survive. Cash shop should only allow to progress faster... not to actually only progress.
     
  2. ScovY

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    Agree
     
  3. SK111

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    I actually begin to think you have played just one day, you've finished your daily free SG pots and you tought this game ***** cuz it isn't for free.
    Please link in here a 2019 videogame which comes for free.
    About the cash shop
    it does exactly what you wrote aka it allows to progress faster aka you can play for free with the SG pots 4hxday but the ones who are using
    the cash shop can play it 24hxday, in teory but practically speaking they have some serious kiddo anger management troubles so they are paying what
    they aren't using and they do, withouth the 3rd class skills nor the lvl 4 tattoos, wars vs not even God understands who.

    I'll make an example
    if you google a lil bit on youtube you will find hundreds of videos of those kiddos pvping
    at lvl 72 without something like 20.000 hp and none of the post 3rd class skills.
    What are they doing then? Wasting € or $ cuz they can't afford a real rehab.
    Or if you prefer it's like the banana republic declaring war on the USA.

    So you need your ingame timex3 to catch up with those loosers nerds for free
    + if you leave your toon exping without sg and ss you will still be able to farm lanterns so lets say you need your ingame timex2
    + there are a lot of kids from all around the world who went kamael archers hit lvl 65 couldn't progress any further and quitted a week ago
    so if you reach lvl 66 you will move from ranking 3000 to ranking 400 in one hour so you need your ingame timex1

    The real problem will be the real p2w items, and i bet the first one will be the dragon pendant.
    At that point you can come in here and rant but not now.

    Please before posting at least play this game 2 days in a row.
     
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  4. Intheas

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    You cannot progress without SG at all because you dont get adena for soulshots. Have you actually tried to play without SG? ....
    Oct 27, 2019
    And yes, I play just one week but enough to see the economy model. I already bought 21€ stuff just to actually... play
     
  5. SK111

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    So not only you don't want to play this game 2 days in a row but you don't want to read the solution either.
    Btw if you think 21 € will allow to play this mmo please uninstall it.
    As soon as the real first p2w item will hit us (and i'm talking about the next week) 100 € a month wont' be enough
    to be cannon fodder in a mass pvp
    It seems you are in a damn hurry so it's obvious this game isn't for you, simple as that.
    L2 lasts years and not hours or days.
    Can you please have the decence to log in and port in to aden plaza on your server?
    Take a look at what many toons are selling in there. B crystals
    That means that they've tried to make a top b weapon at least +7 and failed multiple times
    and a b weapon it's 20 € for each try.

    This, all in all, it's a videogame for adults with a monthly salary.
    For the fps videogames you can download them from steam.
    Have a nice day.
     
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  6. __i7__

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    I saw a streamer with nothing to do ingame today (no sayha, no spirit ore and no way to drop adena), bcs the math of game not allow u to be sustainable, and to be "playable ", u need to create a lot of birds to farm and let behind your main account, so its is what we do in classic ,right? Play with boxes to do adena goes contrary to what was proposed before the server opened with "New free version of Lineage 2" and "Self-sufficient and accelerated level up", I think the ads were just a big lie, the reality is different and not only this streamer as other players of my clan are having this same problem right now, not make me think that NA (which is a disaster) is in heaven compared to here, don't make me go back there.

    Essence it will be when the company hear the players, what we most need is to be heard(cliche, about 12 years without being heard in l2 forums), till there they will separate the paying players from the unpaid players, and with this 100 player base, keep the server with many milk ways to explore those 100 ones addicted, and after open another with death knight or l2M, and we don't need a list of servers that it happened, right?

    And idk why i'm writing here, cuz is a "player to player" secton, and not a "player to adm, mod , gm" section , is just a "words thrown in the wind" section.
     
  7. TearsOfBlood

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    have u ever played classic ? the sayha grace potions you get for free let you exp/overall progress WAY faster than you would on classic. if you arent satisfied just leave, many more versions of l2 out there, theres no need for you to play l2 essence

    You're probably too ignorant to see more than tip of your own nose.. innova is only hosting l2 essence in Russia and Europe, they cant change the game, want the game to change? go spam korean branch of NCSOFT.
     
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  8. Intheas

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    The level of saltiness lol it really reminds me the good old days. Its about adena drop, not exp. Also, this is a f2p game. I play one week and I bet have spent more than both of you salty trolls together. What Im about is the fact that absolute majority of people that join f2p are not willing to pay and will leave if the most essential gameplay is hidden behind a pay wall....
     
  9. SK111

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    I'm sure you are right.
    That's why from monday to saturday and from 13.00 p.m. to 00.00 am, when all the kids from all around the world are back from school,
    l2 essence eu it's totally unplayble so yeah ctrl+alt+canc uninstall bye.

    Otherwise the next mant when, i guess, they will unleash the dragon pendant thingy you will die for sure and uninstall the game as well.
    So please do a favour to your family, uninstall it now.
    Oct 27, 2019
    So return in there with items that costs x55 if not x75 compared to innova or with 3 p2w events running at once.
    Do it. Why are you still in here? Wait maybe you are still in here cuz ncwest in 2017 had 9 servers running and now
    it has only 2 which, btw, will become 1 on january 2020 the 1st?

    Lets be honest with yourserlf, you don't want to pay a single dime to be entertained
    so you can't afford
    - a movie
    - a videogame
    - an hamburger
    - a football match
    - an hokey match
    - a basketball match
    - a dinner with your gdf/wife
    and all of you come in here to post you don't have a dime but still want to play.
    Dude this is just a forum where ppl, with an actual paid JOB, do post.
     
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  10. Leckter

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    Not a mmo, but still : Path of Exile.
    It's actually amazing how it's rich in content for a real f2p. Sadly, it requires effort, and companies nowadays just don't do it.
    I mean I can understand, why would you go hard, when you can deliver **** tier games for no cost. People will leave and complain, but still spend decent money. Repeat that regularly, and you get a nice profit.
    The trend of good games you could spend a life on, with joy and accomplishment is something from the past and the memories, I'm afraid.
    And looking at the "standard" gamer nowadays, without a brain and selfish to the bones, well, there is no hope :D

    Yet, when you take a look at PoE, you can see it could be possible, but meh...
     
  11. __i7__

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    So, as I could see, u run around forum telling ppl to unistall the game , to complain about RU kids , and trying to give a moral lesson about ppl lifes and about what you do in the game and what you are in personal life.

    You suppose anyone complaining about the things in the game didn't put a cent in there, you suppose anyone here doesn't have a job, you just guess and guess but don't know about people's lives and walk through the forums directly attacking people instead to give a constructive idea to evolve the conversation in a healthy way. Do not complain about Russian children within the game if you act as one within the forums.

    I playied NA when opening, i left, i returned , i left , i played when store button was created and before that, i played in retail before NA was created, i participated in alot of forums since 2007, and i can tell u one thing, don't enter the forums just to pvp against ppl here, pvp is in game, be more smart on ideas, and when u quote a sentence, make it right and quote all sentence that gives a real means, not half one that u can distort, in this i will help you --> "not make me think that NA (which is a disaster) is in heaven compared to here".

    GL replying ppl in this post, as i said, is lost of time. god bye :Thumbsup:
     
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  12. SK111

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    Dude i don't want to start a flame but you are in the wrong forum of the wrong mmo
    In here and now there are 4 categories of players
    1] ru kids without a dime [i've never seem them be4 in any other videogame] - when they reach lvl 60-70 they turn perma red threatening the paying customers
    to pay to them a l800 pack or they will pk that customer nonstop. The problem is that there are more than 50 of those guys x server so all in all you have to
    pay more than 50 l800 packs x week. You can call them the poor ru kids
    2] the poor na and eu kids, like you, who can barely afford the air they are breathing who bump from the ncwest forums to here, and viceversa, ranting all the
    world should be for free. Go to a MCDonald and ask them a burger for free so they can kick you *** from town to town
    3] the moderate spenders like me. Atm i've spend 210 € in less than a month dropping the l2store **** into some private shop so i can afford the next crazy
    p2w item.
    4] the insane spenders, aka the whales as they call them on ncwest. There are already bops +12 on both servers and the ones who own those bops are the
    same ones who made aden talisman lvl 8 [750 to 1.500 € each] and are selling something like 50k b crys [aka 2.000,00 €]

    Please uninstall the game cuz tomorrow you have to go to school.

    P.s. to Lectker :*
     
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  13. Totxoman

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    The main problem of most of the players who don't donate is that you didn't stop 3 minutes to think. You are lvling like a top donator with storm all time on. Ofc you run out of SG and money. You are getting half the adena. And also most of the ppl is using blesses soulshots that aren't worth the price at all. I'm farming 24/7 without a single euro fine full of SG.

    Everyone is talking about the wall at lvl 60, the wall at 65, the wall at 70+, I'm almost 73 getting around 30% per day. That's not a fricking wall.

    Do your maths, look for what is worth and what is not. Why do you think most of ppl is not complaining in this forum.
     
  14. SK111

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    I agree on everything you wrote but this. As i've wrote elsewhere it's just a timing problem.
    Whoever joined l2 essence eu since day one and managed to get past lvl 65 before all those kamael archers logged in didn't have any problem at all.
    The others are simply living in an hell, honestly, with a pker horde from one side, as they are forced to revert back to cemetery or enchanted valley,
    and the players' horde, on the other side, if they try to exp in every single fracking normal 65+ exp zone. Try by yourself.
    I'll post a screenshot of the top 150 for each race on both servers
    there are more than 2000 players at lvl 65 who can't go any further.

    Then those who are ranting are just kids, no more than kids, no less than kids, who consider l2 like an fps with elves and dwarves
    instead of terrorists and hostages.
    Again there are so many ways to lvl up while living a normal real life you can't even imagine.
    Eg. i'm lvling as my main a tank and i went sk
    on skelth [l2 classic innova] before the kamael update the sk was simply too much OP
    after the kamael update the sk is the weaker tank amongst the 4
    do you know how many years it takes to reroll a tank and lvl it to 84? 3 or 4 years
    instead of acting like kids do eg. an archer for each race with the free sg pots while on other accounts you begin to tank other free sg pots
    play no more than 3 hour x day. day 1 you lvl up a soul hunter tanking free sg pots with the other accounts day 2 lvl you silver ranger while
    tanking free sg pots for your soul hunter and the other archers and bla bla bla bla bla
    if ncsoft nerfs your actual main not all it's lost

    Ofc if you want to act like a kid keep ranting more but keep in mind that tomorrow you have to go to school or your parents will beat up
    your azz
     
  15. Intheas

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    This game needs players of all kinds and a lot of them. Telling people they are "russian kids" and to uninstall is not really helping anything. As I have said already I do not mind paying for boost and extras (to a reasonable point) but without constant influx and dedication of people this game will not survive and everything you have put in will just be voided. Game is really good but you can already see too many people turning off very fast and complain because clearly the current system is not enjoyable. You deplete your sayha and there is literally nothing to do, zero.
     
  16. Intheas

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    Really the only thing I ask for is to allow adena drop w/o sayha. Buying sayha pots and soulshots from the store just to break even on a super slow exp is fair for both players and devs.
     
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    it will be added , maybe, depends on EU community. RU players made riot, logged out and stopped playing on massive scale and innova had to react, they added option to get 140 sahyas grace bottles per day with no l coins. Basically RU now is f2p, you can afk most of the day for free with adena you pick up from mobs, here , no idea, they know that Eu region has richer players, they may just milk you like cows till the end
     
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    Did that replace the 20 sayha + consumables or is it an additional option?