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Plz remove max Karma points or take some action about pk's.

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  1. zzBoy

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    Players kill everyone all time, that is so ******* idiot.
    Remove max karma points or better make impossible teleport to Primeval qhen karma is up, i know is impossible clean pk in primeval but some players pk each player in every spot and port to primeval and go sleep.
    More one option, make when you death PK the cust for 100% ress become doubled
     
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  2. Endrju

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    This is pvp server. PK is a part of it.
    However, dead penalty should be applied only when player die from monster attack (Simply no penalty at all for fighting players). With this we could more enjoy a fight (Or less cry when PK'ed).

    //Cheer
     
  3. procc

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    Killed by pk should be -0.5%
    Killed by pvp should be -0.3%
    Killed by war should be -0.1%
    Or something like that.

    Now people are afraid to pvp... Many people cry about losing %, and they don't go to pvp with others... :(
    This system is not encouraging to pvp, only pk afk players...
     
  4. SK111

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    To me things are totally different
    now i play on innova l2 essence eu
    but i played for 14 years on ncwest then on skelth
    noone in 14 years nor on ncwest nor on skelth pvped before hitting cap lvl limit
    noone
    in here the cap lvl it's 90
    they started pvping at lvl 72
    there are several videos of lightalliance red server on youtube and there's a guys, i don't know who could he be,
    who is trashtalking about those videos but i couldn't agree more
    noone in the l2 history pvped while there was an exp event going on like it is right now in here
    to be more specific on chronos server ncwest for 14 years no bishop dared to do a pvp without max con tattoos
    this guy in the videos started to pvp at lvl 70-72ish without more than 30.000 hps
    it's just na kiddo style
    but in na at least the kids with a wallet do have a working brain too
    that bishop doesn't have a working brain either

    those are just kids with a big wallet but a really bigger anger management problem
    they aren't trying to pvp they just want to bash something
    another example the lightalliance tank who is beeing constantly oneshotted by lvl 80+ toons because
    he is a kid with no brain lvl 76

    He could waste his time and money far way better.

    What can I say. In 14 years i never seen this way of acting on official servers
    and eventually all of those kids played only on pirate private servers.
     
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  5. SK111

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    I've seen another video of those
    WTF
    there's a dude and i won't tell the name on charge of the lightalliance
    he has declared wars to all the clans on the red server
    LOL
    while he is lvl 78 [cap lvl 90] on the other side [t alliance] a dude scaled 9 ranks
    someone is saying in an hour and now he is lvl 81
    WTF
    lol dudes return to your pirate servers please
    hahhahahahah

    yeah congratz
    now you can teach worldwide how to lose an entire server on day 27

    LOL
     
  6. IplayPVE

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    This is not pvp server, it's pk server, most people most of the time are afks so having no pk penalty could be one of the dumbest Dev decisions in gaming 2019
     
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  7. Aurimys

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    Pk without drop is not bad idea, problem is that donate bros get 78+ fast and now they just killing lowbies to satisfy their ego. Something like newbie protection from gatekeeper should be available till 76 lvl that protects from any higher lvl character, problem solved. Donatelos can fight each other instead killing lifers not letting them to catch. I know, for some ppl it's better to 69 each other for taking epics without competition, rmt a bit, give some drop for clan meat to keep them happy, send cw and pk growing clans to prolong dominance. U should send l8000 for them to help them grow, so u can have fun in game, unless coming whit 78 archer and pking 8 guys 68-72 lvl who doing solo elite its fun for u.
     
  8. Copeland

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    Don't want to get pk'ed? Fight back. Afk when it happened? Shrug it off. Other players peeing in your Cheerios is the "essence" of L2.
     
  9. Volotron

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    Pk system is a very clever idea.
    Pk starts pvp.
    Pk forces you to fight for your farm spot.
    But 2 things i disagree in pk are the control button and some skills that you cant use when the other player is unflaged.
    Fixe and those 2 and everything is ok with pk.
     
  10. Dvyus

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    The pk system needs karma penalties back, plain and simple, you can't pvp against a player that is 20lvls higher than you and perma red, that's not initiating pvp that's someone believing they have bigger balls than you, instead of pking afk lower lvl players go seek out your own lvl's and initiate 'pvp' by trying to pk them.....

    Karma system all the way, some ppl need to just experience to only being able to trade at floran village, and dropping anything in their invent upon death.....

    Enjoy your gaming folks
     
  11. Aurimys

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    Fight back, dude u on drugs, i just said that 79 archer one shots 8 of us one by one, we hitting him back 200 dmg, we don't even compete for elites when we see him, we making soe, he just pk us, one skill one dead body. I agree that if u wanna compete for some boss u must fight for it or leave field, if u leave afk char to farm and someone wanna take that spot, they should be able to do it. But those 78+ one shooting 70 players its ********. Or at least remove exp loss from deaths, buff cost its enough penalty. U saying l2 its fast leveling pvp oriented game, but u giving for non donators 2 free ress and one 50 lc then 100 lc, well 150 its plus minus what ppl get per day, so pvp server limited to 4 pvp per day. I saw ru stream on maintenance where gm was asked about ress, answer was, but in l2 healer suppose to ress others, was thinking wtf they talk about, in l2 buffer suppose to buff, recharger to recharge, if u make it solo oriented game, even removing benefits from pt exping, remove healer needs after u get pked. Ru gets free ress, why u cant give it to eu, or u wanna milk a bit more and wait till ppl start protest here like they did in ru l2e, i guess it never happens, because of eu mentality. And those vengeance teleport back its absurd, saw ru ol streamer on zaken fight where all he diid its die, rebuff, and tp back, cast couple debuff, die, stands, rebuff, tp to garden of eva, refill mana from mob, tp back to fight, die and again. After 2 min watch i turned off stream thinking wtf it is. No need regroups, u die u can go instant back to battlefield, just pay a bit. L2e its so huge potential, i give it shot after last 7 years in wow just because i see l2 where u no longer need 5 windows to buff self and where u don't need sit days active and grind mobs. And i'm ok on over enchanted l2 store items, i'm ok on saihas and other l2 store items. But paying for pvp in pvp oriented game version its not fun. Free ress and no teleport back into battlefield, or at least no teleport on bosses trough map or trough tp scrolls or vengeance will make pvp much interesting, but ofc i guess innova loses huge pie of income from those. Like top players in ru servers spending 8k l coins just for pvp. Ofc i'm only 72lvl, i reach that point maybe early next year, but still, i'm scared.
     
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  12. Dvyus

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    Totally ****** up...why, ok I just rolled a toon to 40 lvl and finally got the last amulet I wanted, wahoo happy days!!! then though screw this lets pk toons now see if I get a kick out of it, so yup I turned red pk'd about 5 toons, all kam archers I might add, them one killed me, and i was absolutely gobsmacked that I had the "vengeance" icon for the toon that killed me for attempting to PK it!!!! WTF!!!!

    Seriously game providers sort this bollocks out perma PK'ers should have no f'king game privileges!

    PS. I didnt get a kick out of PK'ing what is the actual kudos of having a red player????? help me on this coz im at a loss
     
  13. Msilver

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    I am a level 76 player and agree with most here, pk system here is a joke, there has to be penalty for pk yes :)
     
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  14. GunBuk

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    perma pk actually don't get privilege, u can easily pk some1 that is perma-red you know this??? at 4 pks u get a bad defence debuff where ur basically a 1-2hit kill, u need to look into it, but I don't like how some of the perma reds as u may seen in farm areas just random pking anybody how they can just roam like it on a daily basis ... that is uncool & I hardly even got L-darn coin to get the rez since I was pked by another random dikhed at the spawn of PoG spot... craze... life, oo in L2 Essence EU, Red server PK is only for extremists ....
    Nov 8, 2019
    Also where is good old Dark Elf Bladedancer dance gone when they do their nice dance it is much different. This should be changed to original, soo much changed in this version which isn't so great.......
     
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  15. xHaseo

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    Yeah, give us back the old animation! IDK why devs are so lazy or...idk, stupid, to change such features...old animations were way better.

    Beside that.

    They should actually fix a couple things, some features are just stupid :

    1) Block ports/Bsoes for PKs.
    2) Remove revenge from wars or for PKs (if i kill a PK, he must now have the revenge option on me)
    3) Re-introduce the PK drop BUT make it so you need to have like hundreds of PKs. Doing so will still make possible for normal players to PK, but will stop the plague of the PK chars.
    There's a guy in Blue server named Evil...he's a Kamael lv 74 that goes around for Plains of Glory and such zones to PKs other archers kamael...when he PKed my kamael and i kindly asked him to **** off, he told me that he PKs other kamaels to...amh...preventing them from farming adenas cause he (he said "we") sells adenas...and i was like "oh...okeh" so.
    4) Empower the PK debuff.

    So. Since the introduction of this Auto-hunting feature, we have people literally going afk 24/7...in my case, i've fanboys coming to PK me w/e they can...but they only PK me when i'm at work or sleeping. Why? Cause i don't leave my toon afk 24/7. If they start hitting, i can either fight back or bsoe. My kamael got PKed, most of the times, by players around his level. I just didn't mind to fight back or bsoe since it's just a farm toon so if it loses xp, i don't care.

    Just because they made "afk xp" available to anyone, doesn't mean you can abuse it w/o paying a "little" price. Try to be smarter and turn on ur brain a bit. You will get PKed 10 time lesser than you get PKed now.
     
  16. Lysandros

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    this is stupid there is very little or none penalty to red players i wish i knew it before i gave my money on this game.If you were a top donator and max gear you can go to low lvl spots to freepk all the low lvls ...well i m quitting ...i mean there is no point in trying ...i see ******s saying dont be afk or fight back ...when you r 60 or 70 and you get an 81 multipk you and the worst thing that can happen to him is not exping afk for a while...anyone who read this dont give your money for this...and if you dont believe me the 2nd top player that nohands ikyosyke is always red from pking 50+ lvl spots and his title was his pk count
     
  17. GunBuk

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    Indeed this is sickening, I also get pked by this ky0sukei & what.... all they expect is an exp loss, no drop item nor any special way to farm off the karma except by killing mobs which is so easy to do. 4000+ PKs is extreme and how they are still able to move around like how some1 already said they can get killed by you Chaotic, then they can port straight back to you & PK you again.. what?? What is this 4game????? Bring back atleast the layout of L2 Classic & official, where the great Dark Elf Bladedancer dance is all normal & not very disfigured like the one in this Essence, I feel why take it? It was a true master piece of the game then you replace the animation with this junk that's never been seen before & very unoriginal.

    However, I do like the leveling & l-coin shop, it's a challenge but I do not like it when something original is changed and the actual races actions are completely altered, I made a BD just because I liked the dance they do, previously in other Lineage 2's. You took that spirit away in this Essence and just replaced it with an ordinary action that was not expected instead of the extraordinary, the Bladedancer dance was what made Dark Elves their compassion of play.

    I just suggest 4game, your team sort it out & get this fixed, may be you get more players, more old fans of the real Lineage game, come on, think..... You're taking away our spirit for the game and the actions we once had in previous Lineage gaming, it is not right.......

    Suggestion for 4game 1.) Bring back the old Dark Elves blade dance, the original one was intriguing & encouraging for all the Dark Elf players of all over Lineage 2...

    Suggestion for 4game 2.) Adjust the PK system as ppl said, don't allow them to port back to you if you was able to kill the Chaotic... Give them some more debuffs (slow movement[SOMETHING!]) & able to drop anything droppable above 20PK's is a good idea, I think... or 50, your choice 4game.....

    Suggestion for 4game 3.) Take away the Cursed Bone having to be used for those that are Necromancer class, we really need this skill & having to just use Vampiric Claw or having our health lowered for the skill CDL isn't great neither....

    3 things you could change, as I've suggested there & people that love Lineage 2 will be happy and benefit from these changes I assure.... Having the PK at bay, with the more debuffs instead of just dumb -%M.def & P.def, uncool...Pls sort it 4game, L2Essence, I have faith in you & like the game but some things you have taken away from us I must complain for....(Sorry I am a very OLD L2 player & like to see good in newer versions of the game!)
     
  18. GunBuk

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    Wow, even the Human Fighter stands wrong with the duals, instead they hold their swords a bit higher now, very unoriginal, even the Dark Elf stand normal but have different dance actions instead. Plz fix it eu.4game & EU L2Essence creators, please get onto making these things back to original. The dance actions & way people stood with their weapons in the old days (original) were much better, don't change everything like dam.... Keep everything like L2 classic is, NORMAL, original...
     
  19. D3fus3@

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    PK on Dino Isle for cleaning his Karma? …
    --> maybe will be good Allow to kill Chaotic Players on Dino

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  20. Dvyus

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    What something like you can kill them but as its no pvp area they cant fight back, I think that would be awesome ;)