There's a complete misunderstanding iApache The only thing you need to oe by yourself it's the aden talisman non tradable [in the death knight update it can be traded within the same account] with 180 € i've got not 1 but 3 + 7 As for the rest pendant cloacks hats 20% exp buy from other players As for the armor a grade in the l2store and purchase safe scrolls as for the weapons b grade +8 from the l2store then purchase safe scrolls So as you can see there's no need to risk anything in here, but for the aden talisman you can get lucky and get it with only 100 € or you can be unlucky but still you can get it as for the rest skip it and invest the money on lvling If you get the +50% exp you can skip both the dragon pendant and the cloack+6 saving something like 1.5 - 2 billions Very important DON'T PURCHASE A GRADE ARMOR AND WEAPONS FOR INSANE AMOUNT OF ADENA THEY WILL BE IN THE L2STORE DON'T BE SCAMMED PLEASE SAME GOES FOR THE BROOCHES LVL 3
There is no such thing as a 100% mathematical chance, once any of the steps falls below 100%. I must admit I could not follow the "luck" analysis. However, mathematics does absolutely apply here, assuming the odds given by the game are honestly applied and assuming there are no modifiers (for example, based on the "luck" stat of the character). To compare it to flat earth or homeopathic medicine is simply incorrect.
I love that Somesay video. It makes me like my +6 Aden Talisman that I made with the first attempt even more.
Hello MiyakoBD. Thanks for making the spreadsheet. I have 1 question, in the excel it says "You Will Need 2 Dragon Belt +0 to make x1 Dragon Belt +1 at 100% Rate and Small Chance for x1 Dragon Belt +2" So I bought 2 belt chests. However, they both broke. Why is that? Then I bought 2 more and they both broke too :S I thought you said it was 100% that's why I spend money :S Can you calculate the exact enchant rates? I have 16 more chests, I want to get +3 or +4. Thank you
Dunno what u mean,sorry if right math makes u upset i hope u are a troll,no one with a brain will write this seriously
You're wrong, again Maths doesn't exist in here Luck doens't exist in here The only thing that counts in here is the sheer amount of money and therefore the sheer amount of attempts I've already wrote after x attempts even the most powerful RNG God goes completely on tilt mode so you can get things that mathematically you couldn't get when they launched the ancient cloacks on ncwest they thought someone could do a +20 in 2022 or 2023 using only the sheer amount of money [aka 250 thousands $] tevas did one cloack +20 in 2018 the same applies to lower enchantments aka no one mentally healty could think somesay would have spent 200 € just to get a bunch of pixels to +7 but that +7 means +50% bonus exp so you won't need to spend any more money on bonus boost, never ever. What I'm try to say it's let the fools act like fools on red server someone managed to spend more than 10k euros in less than a month lets see how fast he will quit. @DapperBae It's almost impossible to fail a belt to +1 let alone 4 times in a row eventually the luck stats on your server are completely facked up so re-try after the mainteinance when the server restarts get a belt to +1 sell the rest do 2 lvls and you will get the same stats bonus as a belt +4 for a cost of ZERO €
well if u think those ideas are mathematically right i guess we will have to cancel centuries of progresses,say Bernoulli,Poisson,etc were tools (whatever it means) and start to study this brilliant theory at school once again,im not saying that in game it work like it should and math says cos probably there are other "modifiers" as u say,so not knowing them we cant say exactly how is enchantment % in L2.what im saying is that mathematically his assumptions are wrong,his calculation of the % in the example is wrong,and so on,or better is not me saying this,math is. Then,if u want to stay on this go on,you are not forced to make calculations as they need to be done.
iApache again, you are wrong the only important thing in here is to choose which items are worth investing aka only 1 the aden talisman to +7 skip the rest spend as low as it is possible to lvl up enjoy the game if pked twice exit from the game and go outside or play something cheap a steam game collection it's 1/1000 of a dragon pendant lvl 3 with the dragon pendant you can't play with that steam game you can play forever period now tell me what this has to do with maths eg the new battletech offer on steam it's 44 € the player base it's 250k users if you put togheter blue and red you can't reach 2.5k players and to go full boost 1 day in here you will need 40 € now what do you think a mentally health dude should do? about the lcoins to resurrect without xp loss this game is made by koreans with a sadistic culture for the koreans and in some extent for the japanese if you fail it's always your fault lets say today you have to go to work but someone shots you in the head so you can't go to work for the koreans and the japanese if you were shot in the head it's your fault and therefore your family fault for the rest of the world the guilty it's the shooter and not who has been shooted that's why they charge on top of whom has been pked the additional damage of the lcoins cost to resurrect go the fack off
why u spam every post with your considerations about game,items,who enchanted what,updates,etc. i am not talking of this,im talking of pure %,so only u know how your answers are related to mine. is like if i talk of % of throwing a coin and u say im wrong cos dollars are better than euro and some cars are not worth to invest coins ad some are. I hope u will get better,sometimes u make me worried
Dude you have to be sick for sure Tell the players not to invest on useless p2w items but, with wisdom, only in exp boosts that beeing said your maths it's completely useless if you want to use it use to calculate how much € it will require to go from 76 to 85 on different conditions [saisha storms on and off - other boosts - before and after the death knight update] tell the players to log off if pked twice because this system it's wrong and if it does exist it's innova and ncsoft fault and not the players' fault otherwise stfu
yeees im sure im the sick one here.. look u seem to have serious and real problems,so im not gonna answer u again,wish u to recover from your situation.
First of all yeah i have a problem because i keep replying to a kid wanna be matematician yeah continue to apply maths to an online casino no one has ever won in a casino lol
Casino is always winning, because of mathematical negative expected gains for players. So yeah, indeed, "lol" Maths can be applied everywhere, while your posts are the opinion of a dude living in his own lonely world Denying this can only prove what a monkey you are And last, you're the only one faulty for your situation, don't blame Innova or other senseful players, put yourself in question old man. It's really sad to see how obsessed you are.
Hello MiyakoBD. Thanks for making the spreadsheet. I have 1 question, in the excel it says "You Will Need 2 Dragon Belt +0 to make x1 Dragon Belt +1 at 100% Rate and Small Chance for x1 Dragon Belt +2" So I bought 2 belt chests. However, they both broke. Why is that? Then I bought 2 more and they both broke too :S I thought you said it was 100% that's why I spend money :S Can you calculate the exact enchant rates? I have 16 more chests, I want to get +3 or +4. Thank you Can someone help me please
And this, my friends, is the reason why this game became what it is now. Monkeys paying no matter what, with no ability to connect 2 brain cells... What a sad time to be alive...
@Leckter No need to be insulting and condescending. Thank you @MiyakoBD Can you take a look at the example i presented above and apply your theory to it? Thank you very much.
Hi DapperBae, I'm unable to give you straight answer and i see where all this calculation can break - at the end of the day its just theory. For me personally it worked, with a big BUT - 1 out of 7, 6 scenarios where predicted accurately, I was able to tell how many user will have at the end of the enchantment, But there was 1 scenario that happened week + some days ago, I've spent 100 eur (before this spreadsheet) to try make belt +5, I've failed, but i had similar amount of +4 as i predicted. ( x4 ), but i broke on going to 5. any who, i tested this once again last weekend, and i got +5 (but +4's were accurate, x4 of them). I did yesterday another test with land dragon pendants, wanted to make it +6 and with 3000L's i made x2 pendants at +6, that was recorded and streamed via discord. To be short, i cannot explain that and maybe I'm wrong, but as mentioned before this is my view of chance vs Luck. Would be awesome if Jumi could experiment it
Thank you MiyakoBD for the effort you put in this Shame that other people has to go on and insult people for trying.
@DapperBae if there are not hidden things in game,enchanting 16 belts u have more or less 87% of chance of having at least one +3 and a little less than 50% to have at least one +4. If u are looking for something that give u mathematically 100% to have it,sorry,not in this universe.
