Amen! If only it were that way! However, it will never happen because the developers would be too worried that everyone would farm like crazy with alts and multiple accounts, rather than spending money. Their big money-makers are the items they can sell (or better yet, sell a low chance of getting) that are not available in the game by farming. And they are, after all, a business. They are not going to do anything that they think will hurt their profits, nor should we expect them to.
While in essence EU, we talk about merge serves. In Russian it is said to open serve, as they were opened 2 more. with capacity of 2.5k each, the other 2 open full https://eu.4gameforum.com/posts/9223127/ The innova developers
I saw many times this stupid topic about money, for now you can obtain EVERYTHING with no exception by farm, farm adena, buy L8000 and then buy the items. If one day the L8000 are not available to sell in private stores, then, that day you will be able to say that some items are out of scope for non donators, meanwhile, farm, make adena and buy L8000.
Just a correction innova aren't developers when they discovered on month 2 that almost 300 ppl used the same software they used in ncwest giran classic server to bypass the 1 account limit innova eu cms perma banned them all without a single word or a single topic on those forums open the ranking tab on blue and red all the 500+ toons lvl 77 inactive since 1 months have beeing banned they could have banned the perma pkers aswell, at least for 1 day to send a message but they choosed to don't do anything, therefore encouraging them to act even worst Also i would like to ask to DIL how many players on scarlet ru server are from eu and originally played on red eu server and still have an account on innova eu the answer will be 98-99% When red will be closed you can tank ixpy and tiapka, and generally speaking the united clan, for all the money and time you wasted
A serious question. Is this how you play the game? You are technically correct. However, it is impossible (without cheating, of course) to earn enough adena in game to buy enough L-coins to have even the slightest chance at the better items that are available only by the use of L-coins. Certainly, even by farming 24/7 there is no way a player can hope to compete with the big spenders, or even the little spenders. The way the game is set up now, the people who don't spend significant cash are wasting their time. So your point, while technically correct, is all but meaningless. Furthermore, the game mechanics are set up so that a person like Requiem can prevent someone from farming anything close to 24/7. Let me stress Requiem is not cheating in any way, as best I can tell. He is simply taking advantage of poor game mechanics to ruin the game for many players. But his actions do have an impact on your argument, since, if one is constantly PKed, one can hardly farm enough to be able to afford L-coins.
Just to illustrate the above, forget boss jewels, boss weapons, ice crystal breastplates and all the stuff the big spenders have. Let's assume the player is trying to use your method just to get a simple A grade heavy armor set. The set costs 396 seals. At the average of 66 seals per 8,000 L-coins spent (which is about the actual average), it will take six packages of 8,000 L-coins. Those packs sell, on Blue anyway, for about 40,000,000 each. So, the player needs to farm 240,000,000 net adena for a simple A grade set, sealed, clean. Taking account that the player has inferior gear (otherwise, why does he still need to buy an A grade set?), has to pay for things like soulshots and healing potions, and is quite likely being regularly PKed by Requiem and the like, how long do you think the player would have to farm to net 240,000,000 adena? And this is just for armor. Don't even think about a weapon, jewelry, talismen, jewels, agathions, belt, headgear, etc. This is not a practical approach to the game.
Free to play players needs to have 2-3 alt chars farming 24/7. I am able to make like 8-10kk adena daily on one character if lvl 80+ and goes non-stop. If you have main + 3 alt, its 40kk adena daily. Thats how you can compare with donate guys. You either play or pay, if you dont do any of that, you are behind.
Can you please explain how do you run 3 alt chars 24/7 legal? I dont count 4 computers at home as a gaming standard.
To farm 24/7 you need time to guard your char if somebody PK you. For exemple people who work and let the char to farm and after 30min they are dead. Happen to me many times. I believe I do some adena but instead i'm dead. Just because somebody want to PK you.. And yes i'm way behind but I don't care. I'm not play to be competitive, i'm playing just cuz I love this game.
You need 4 computers, I think most of europeans has 2 PCs and 2-3 notebooks in family, you can run it on old notebooks you dont use anymore or something. If you have only 1 PC and no money to donate, I feel a little bad for you.
You need 4 computers, I think most of europeans has 2 PCs and 2-3 notebooks in family, you can run it on old notebooks you dont use anymore or something. If you have only 1 PC and no money to donate, I feel a little bad for you. Thanks for the reply. You didn't answer my question as to whether you play without spending. As for your answer, you note that your main is 80+. I agree if you have an 80+ character, well geared, farming 24/7 and don't get PKed you can make decent adena. The problem is how you get a character to 80+ and gear him well, much less get a main and 2-3 alts geared well enough to hunt in areas that give a decent adena return. I don't think you get there without donating. Did you? By the way, if you do happen to have 4 computers capable of running the game, you probably have enough money to spend some on the game. The problem is for folks who have one computer, or even play in a cafe, and not enough money to spend. Yes, I feel bad for such a person, too, because that player can play 24/7 and will still not be able to enjoy large parts of the game. And, of course, there is the PK problem which you don't address and which makes 24/7 pretty much impossible, unless maybe you are a clannie of the PKers.
You know, if you have no money to spend (or dont wanna do it), only one computer and you make yourself enemy of some top player, you are not in good position Its social game also, so try to join some clan who helps you etc. but it wont be easy, developers of this game needs to eat so the game is designed to spend at least some bucks montly.
I agree completely that the game is designed to make the developers money and I have no problem at all with that. They don't make money, we have no game at all. However, I was responding to your comment that all items are available in game if you just farm adena and buy L-coins. My response was, and still is, that this is not a workable way to play the game. One other point, and I think our discussion has run its course. You talk about making an enemy of some top player. The problem with that is folks like Requiem PK indiscriminately. You don't have to make an enemy of him to get PKed by him. And the game mechanics not only allow such behavior, they encourage it. It ruined Red and it could well ruin Blue if the decision makers refuse to make the easy corrections. But that is a whole other discussion. Thanks for the civil discussion.
It's how I play the game and it works, but I am math fan, so if you don't understand numbers is hard for you to have benefits while exping
I dont know Requiem, but lets say its some hero lvl 84. If he is really killing anyone, take 3 ppl lvl 81-82 and make him pay for it. I dont know, our Kyosuke is lvl 86, donates over 1000xL8000 (confirmed), probably so far strongest player on both servers and still he dont PK anyone, because when he did that in past, we ganged him all day in 5ppl. He died many times and stopped killing our entire ally. But as I said before, if you do nothing against player who bully you, you will be bullied, thats how it works in this game.
warendo go back to your pve server and stop spamming everywhere when you have no clue what is going on ok?
After Innova's answer https://eu.4gameforum.com/threads/671303/ , it makes no difference to unite .... because there will only be more pk. The goal of the union would be to have more blue serving players, with red being empty by the pk system. Warning, the blue is emptying every day ... the future is the same ... no matter the union
In theory I agree with you. We should police our own. In practice, it will just mean Requiem's clan Pride (Lord know what they are proud of!) would just become more active PKing and we would have, in effect, a PK war. Note, Pride is already at war with the most powerful clans and those clans do hunt Pride. It makes no difference. If anything, it makes matters worse. But thanks for the suggestion.
Ok ware that's was clear since the beginning If you run at least 4 pcs = 165 pc run by 40 ppl and it's clear only ginto is running 7 ladtops, at least so what's the difference between united clan and a chinese farmers' building 3 floors in height filled of pcs? Also many from united clan barely sleep so they are clearly jobless The game wasn't meant to be played like this and no one needs 4 pcs to play a 2003 videogame lets say you found a way to own everyone on red server acting between the lines of the EULA with the money you gained that way you got the gear to pk the rest of the server Imho even you ware, if you speak sincerely, won't find this normal. Btw stop QQing in here because nobody cares. It has been told since week 3 by every red server player nobody did anything to solve the pk problem and nobody will uninstall essence eu install essence ru change locale problem solved
