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Discussion in 'Archive 2.0' started by Maxim Nikitin, Nov 28, 2019.

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Who would like to merge RED and BLUE?

  1. I would, that will be fun

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  2. No, this is stupid idea

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  1. Thunderbuild

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    Nice to see you take part in the discussion, Requiem. Here's the problem I have with what you do. One of the big selling points for this version of the game is that it allows AFK leveling. By PKing everyone with the openly expressed intent of preventing people from AFK leveling you defeat this appealing feature of this version of the game. While I don't approve of what you do, I agree that the game mechanics encourage such behavior.

    PKing destroyed the Red server. It is making the Blue server much less playable. It is not good for the game. What I'm curious about is whether you care. Someone said that one of the main PKers elsewhere said he didn't care if the game shut down tomorrow. Do you feel that way, too?

    Also, because I'm ignorant and simply don't know, what official servers have AFK leveling and no PKing? Are any of them English speaking? If so, I'd actually consider taking your advice and moving there.

    Thanks for writing.
     
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  2. Warendo

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    You can play classic, its way more PVE. This is presented as PvP server and still you can spend 12h a day on PVE zone Primeval Isle,I dont know how much of PVE you want on PvP server guys. Those guys who leave bcs of being PKed would leave anyway, sooner or later.
     
  3. Dvyus

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    No they wouldnt, they leave due to *****, plain and simple, enjoy the upcoming empty server 'heros'
     
  4. Thunderbuild

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    How do you get enough extensions to spend the 12 hours a day on PI? I only see 2 in the stores, so a max of 4 hours a day, but perhaps I'm missing something.

    It's not that I want more PVE so much as I want less PK. Those who want PVP can join clans, war each other and PVP completely without limit. PVP and PK are are two different things.

    You are right that this is presented as a PVP server, but not as a PK server. It is also presented as an automated server where you can level as you sleep. That is impossible if you get PKed and are lying on the ground dead most of the time you are asleep (or AFK for any other reason). As he freely admits, Requiem's whole goal in PKing is to prevent people from ever AFK leveling.

    I played Classic before I took a break from the game (I've played since C1 with three breaks totaling about 3 years; something always draws me back; I'm an addict) I don't know about now, but then, you could not legally AFK level (well, you could use repeating macros but they weren't designed for that). Can you now legally AFK level there?

    Anyway, I'm looking for a version of the game that encourages PVP when at war and provides many other opportunities for PVP (olympiad, 3 on 3, sieges, duels, fortress sieges, bring back the battle over flags, etc.), but that allows PVE without fear of being PKed when not at war. The game mechanics should support PVP when at war, and in the other PVP elements, (as here) but should provide PVEers with ways to protect themselves from PKing when not at war (as definitely not here, but there are many easy solutions that can be implemented without harming the PVP element). That is easily achievable, if they want to do it. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think such a server would be quite popular.
     
  5. SK111

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    Posted the same thing but it was deleted by a mod who fears a mass quit in a matter of seconds.

    Dear united clan
    there's no place where the paying customers can hide from you
    that's why there are only 80-90ish active toons on red servers
    aka you and your alts

    GG
    also the fact you don't even know there are only 2 stones to stay in primeval
    + the fact you are lvl 82-83 since 3 months means only one thing
    you aren't spending a dime
    GG
    + ikiosuke has stopped streaming 14 days ago
    GG
     
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  6. Thunderbuild

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    How much PVP do you want? You have clan wars for 24/7 PVP. You have the olympiad. You have sieges. You have 3 on 3. You have duels. You have battles over raid bosses. I think there is a PVP element to the Orc Fortress. Etc. Do you really need PKing, too?
     
  7. andthirteen

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    PvP server is a joke when maybe 10% off the server are lvl 80+
    If we are not allowed to PvE to enjoy the game at max lvl. Come all and pvp at lvl 40.
    What you can ask when you have to pay real money for life stone. When this stones soppose to be drop from mobs. Nobody laugh this server start to be a comedy cuz we had enough drama.
     
  8. Warendo

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    Guys when we had enough PvP, we didnt PK all around the map. But since there is almost none to PvP, we kill entire map. If you need more then 3 months to ding 80 lvl, you do something wrong.
     
  9. Dvyus

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    Get a life!
     
  10. Warendo

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    I play this game +-2h a day lately, thats why I can talk that you dont need to play no-life to be decent in Essence :)
     
  11. Thunderbuild

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    I can't say for sure, because I wasn't on Red at the time, but I'm told the reason there is no one left to PVP is that you, or someone, DID PK all around the map, discouraging people and the people left. Also, I heard something about Russians leaving. I don't know why. Perhaps you can set the record straight for all of us folks on Blue.

    One other thought. By Pking all over the map, you prevent anyone getting sufficiently strong to be a worthy PVP opponent. The one thing I liked about NOVA (on NA servers) back in the day is that they would beat the snot out of you in sieges but then let you keep you castle so you could continue to grow stronger and oppose them. Perhaps you should help some opposition develop, rather than preventing it from doing so.
     
  12. Warendo

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    Mate, we made a peace with our enemies like 1 month ago, we let them farm in top locations like TOI or Lizard 24/7, but they are still behind, because their spend is very low. They simply dont wanna catch up, they need us to log out for 1-2 months, then they may catch us a little in lvls, but what more can we do. We also farm 24/7 and we use more boosts, so there is still bigger an bigger gap, what can we do. If we didnt come to server as a clan, we would break into 2, but we are bunch of friends, we play together for a long time, we dont wanna fight each other just because are enemies are ****. And russians left because they played for RMT and we did did great in fights so they didnt get epics and had nothing to sell. They were winning most of PvP, but when we need, we spend thousands Lcoin for ress and keep porting back to win important PvP for epics. So we were loosing for hundreds points in war score, but they couldnt take any epic, so russian papa RMT told em to go on another server, where they may sell something for RMT. Our problem is, we are only 30-40 people, but we are willing to donate hard if it brings the fun :) I dont donate a shiet lately, because its boring in game, but I am ready to buy L8000 daily after merge if it will be necessary and spend it only for proper PvP. You can say this game is pricy and prolly it is, but if you compare it with any other "fun", its still quite okay. I play tennis daily, 2h of tennis costs like 10Euro, for 10 euro daily I can have fun 10 hours daily in Essence if you know what em I trying to say.
     
  13. tabelata

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    why dont you buy an expensive sports car and cut the **** spendings in l2,just like the way normal people do? tesla S p100D will fix your problems and you will forget the lineage
     
  14. Warendo

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    Thats the "problem", I am not materialistic, I dont need expesinve cars, boats, helicopters even I prolly can afford it. I only spend money for experiences, for moments, traveling etc. so I am able to put non-sence money into tennis till it brings me happiness, same with Lineage and many other things. I have like "casual car" which takes me from point A to point B which is enough for me. It may sounds weird and nerdy, but for me its better invested money into game that into car.
     
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    The Richest Man Is Not He Who Has The Most, But He Who Needs The Least.
    I am poor as hell. :(
     
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  16. SK111

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    Ware stop writing ****
    1] poorly marketing by innova
    they launched the dk update in ru first
    all the ppl who were able to speak russian or to have 2 clients [1 eu - 1 ru] opened went to play on ru [myself included] especially in the brand new 2 ru servers
    -> tribunal clan, the dominant one left en masse
    2] without any really opponent united clan began to pk all over the map everyone including allies [armada like me]
    3] ware i've posted a video of 18 days ago where ixpy [who's nick has always been red since day 1] called xtn for a 1 vs 1
    and insted xtn was 1 but there were 4 united [3 of them perma red] so you didn't peace out with nobody and i bet ikio
    has stopped spending so you have like what? 3 days remaining untill innova will plug off everything?

    It doesn't take a genious to get what's going on
    make a toon lvl 40 on blue and you won't be pked for days
    make a toon lvl 40 on red an you will pked as soon as you port out of aden cathedral in a matter of seconds and if you are 60+ don't even bother to log in because
    some one is camping where you've logged off
     
  17. Thunderbuild

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    That has not been my experience. I started a character a couple weeks ago just to find out. It's lvl 72 and has been PKed 4 times. That's not all that bad. As for United making peace, the man said they PKed all over the map, then said they'd stopped. I'm not sure what to believe. I can only tell you my own experience.
     
  18. Dvyus

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    My lvl 40+ phantom summoner has sea of spores all to itself on red, havent seen a single player there, granted i dont log on red that often majority of chars are on blue, but the difference in aden on both red and blue is gobsmackingly worrying, looking forward to a dead blue like dead red, thanks 'top players' you are truly amazing, only irony is you will have wasted the €1k's of euros you are all so happily bragging about to be 'on top' on a game that is dead by your very own actions {APPLAUSE} #idiots
     
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  19. Warendo

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    You do lvl 70+ in 24h after creating character, thats why you dont see anyone in sea of spores dude :D Give it a month, when you are 80+, you will meet tons of players on both servers I think.
     
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  20. Dvyus

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    Sea of spores is full always on blue, nuff said