I just spent 2 months of playing and when i reach lvl 76 and they give me no new skills LOL. all i got is soul stigma that makes enemies critical damage hit 20% less. LOL what is this? you gotta put some new skill to this class dude, why you even create new skills for classes that are not even damage but you put NO SKILL AT ALL for a class that is main damage? Are you crazy? It was a hell of a nightmare to lvl up with all those BOW RESISTANCE buffs, And i could never stay a night alive cuz i always got confused with all those adena farmers bot from InfinityS/Avadon/no clan guys. I couldn't even do PVP because the archer is a PAPER compared to other clases, you even gave me no lvl 40 box with a book like every other class. wtf? and TOI is super resistant to bows LOL how am i going to lvl up with a F* -20% critical damage debuff skill "AS A LVL 76 3RD CLASS SKILL" The prophet which is A BUFFER has a freaking death ray cannon from star wars deathmoon planet. A BUFFER. And the kamael trickster has a debuff, are you serious? you even removed the increased pvp damage. in a pvp server? are you serious?. wtf?
Kamael archers are actually OP lol. Dark transformation lv 2 is kinda broken and you can hit TWO times per skill with that twin shot, making your dmg output insane in a moment. Also, that fear skill lands 100%. Dark transform + fear + twin shot is enough to kill players on your same level/gear range in like 5 seconds.
No, it is not OP xHaseo, first the chance for it to happen is less than 20%. 2ND you have to use the Shadow collect souls that has a 20 minute cooldown. 3RD the kamael skill is not updated while eveyone else is. Twin Shot says "Hit the target with 2 arrows with 3300 power" While the double shot of Sagittarius and Moon sentinel/Dark elf says "Hit the target with 2 arrows with 6600 power" + they have another skill deadly arrow that hits the target with 8800 power and that's only at lvl 76. at lvl 77 they have it again with 350 increased power. Check the RU wiki. compare skills between archers and you will see. Its not fair, all clases should have the same oportunities, why the f. would you create NEW spells for supports so they can have pvp and ERASE spells from actual damagers so they can be TRASH. i just wasted my time with this f*ing trash im so mad at this game right now and seems they dont give a sht
Before saying such **** why don't see 80+ lvls pvp? Denv1r, arba from red, is one of the strongest char from both servers. DPS output on shadow transform is insane. And cooldown for soul collecting resets after every fight on oly. Instead of looking at the wiki why don't you just play the game and judge char after u put same amount of money as others and reach 82/83+ lvl.
The only thing that upsets me is why have they removed the crossbows ? The bow animations are so bad....and of course the lack of skills. Twin shot thats all, i dont count the transforms just the attack skills. The damage might be good cause the twin shots damage counts for both hits but come on 1 skill and the **** aoe. Compared to the other archer its kinda maeh for a new class. Even the new deathknight has 5 skills he can use.
Who cares if u use 10 skills or 50 . If the class is broken is broken . if u think about it usually classes are broken due to 1 skills since forever . STS- Empowering echo before After goddess - archers 101 skills etc. Kamaels are insane , and similar to other u just need gear to hit breakpoint
1st, its understandable that if you don't spend Euros in a pay 2 win server you wont get to the top, this is not about equipment. Since they removed patk + skill power, the basic of your damage is your skill, if you have an A grade bow +15 with a lvl 30 archer you will always get killed by the lvl 70 with no grade bow. Basically because the lvl 70 skill has way more "power" than the lvl 30. Kamael archer's twinshot last update is at lvl 75 to hit 3255 power. split in 2 damages. The average damage of THAT against a "same lvl moster" with "bow resistance" is ~2000*2. To a same lvl player, a damage that when you see it you say "i can kill him" would be like 700*2 to a maximum of 980*2 , Greater than that you're hitting someone under leveled. Now i lvled up to 76 and the only remarkable skill that i got is "soul stigma" that makes the enemy hit 20% less when they crit for 10 secs. if they dont crit, damage wont be affected and its only 10 secs. After that, twin shot has a 3.5 seconds casting with an average damage of 980*2 while 76 because my skill is the same, is not even upgraded to hit more. now when i see sagittarius scheme, i see that the double shot gets updated so it hits 6629. (double of twin shot) so 1700*2 damage is expected since its only one shot, would be like 3200 - 3700 damage to a same lvl target with average armor. Dont tell me 900*2 is the same than 1700*2..... Now something funny is that the next upgrade of my twin shot is at lvl 80, and it will hit 3533 split in 2 ofcourse. while the skill of the sagittarius, moon sentinel and ghost sentinel is WAY MORE BETTER and they even have more skills, they have Deadly shot wich hits with 8617 power and is upgraded to 9187 at lvl 80. funny story, double shot which i already explained is way more better than twin shot has a 2.5s Casting while Twin shot has 3.5s casting. Have you seen a sagittarius/moonlight sentinel/Ghost Sentinel use the skill? its almost instant casting And you can verify the difference on any leveling spot you will see lots of kamaels using the skill with patience. SO NO, ITS NOT THE SAME, THE KAMAEL IS NERFED Annnnnnnnd they took away the increased % pvp damage so basically kamael has nothing. This m*f*n*g iVoid talking about Empowering Echo and lvl 101 skills... dude this is f*ing Essence, i dont have a f*ng Empowering echo and i cant even reach 101. are you stupid or what? Go ahead and test it for yourselves, create a fraking kamael. play it, dont leave it farming. join olys, try to pvp someone. You say kamael 80+ is better because some russian nerd spent 1000 euros on it? wtf? that doesnt even makes sense i dont wanna be hero, i just want to play with the character i created. And i dont want to create another character since they MADE/CREATED new skills for buffers to be decent at pvp they can freaking modify a skill because the only thing that the archer can do is DAMAGE and this archer the only thing that doesnt do is DAMAGE and dont tell me im wrong because im talking with solid number from the wiki and from my Upgrade skill window because I DO HAVE a kamael. And its unacceptable that the same skill you have for 2nd class is the same skill you keep for 3RD class and it doesnt even get upgraded so what the f* am i doing changing my f*ing class? so i can get a debuff that people hit less when they crit? wtf is this... a joke? so my 3rd class spell is a 10s buff... while other archers have 2,3 passives and 2+ skills + skill upgrade. Do i have to say thanks? They have to fix it, atleast let me have double shot even if its not from my class, atleast put some sor of change class at Lcoin store because this is bulls*t how is it even possible that after 3rd class transfer i hit the same 4k damage while everyone else is hitting 8-10k damage.
And it will take more than a month to lvl up to 80 since i cant leave my character afk in top lvl areas for many reasons, including the fact that i cant kill fast enough because my skill set is 2nd class skill set.
Well, next time read patchnotes You spend 2 months of leveling, but we have already DK patch for 2 months.
I'm talking with numbers and REAL information from the game, from the wiki and from the fairness concept of the l2 because all classes must upgrade skills in order to kill. All you're saying is "donate donate donate, you're bad because you don't spend 1000 euros as i did" the fact that you need to donate to become "someone" and have your room in your clan is pathetic boy. Don't you have skill as a player? cant you pay attention to the strategy of the game? cant you read the information that im telling to you so you can realize and i am right and this class needs a fix? This situation is not about donation. if i take out my credit card and spent 1000 euros, my skill set will still be 2nd class, i still wont have spells. Feb 3, 2020 That is true, but patch notes doesn't say "kamael has been left behind, if you wanna play something you can get real progress don't create a kamael, btw the more you lvl up the more resistance to bow you will suffer so think it twice if your wallet is not fat enough to overcome the bow resistance" I don't care if you're a Volunteer, a refugee, a faker o what ever you are. if you're part of the staff you should answer as a part of the staff. Go ahead and read the patch notes for yourself and realize that the information input by ME in this post is nothing related to patch notes, not even close. Now if you want to comment something useful, you can read my notes, compare it to the RU wiki (surprise we don't have a wiki yet so the RU is the most accurate) and let your brain process an apropiate answer, Compare the kamael with other class and think "¿does it need a rework or not? There is also a poll if you want to vote. I know you're not a developer but if you go around placing non-sense comment like the one you did all you gonna get is shame. As a volunteer if your comment is not useful don't comment or if you have a point (even if you're wrong) we can exchange some ideas. But avoid doing that, you lose reputation.
Keep it for farming afk since it never runs out of mana and be sure to have plenty of hp pots in inventory. Create a new char with a class you like. Use the adena you farm to equip and enjoy your new char
I think what Constance is saying is that the wiki information that you are now quoting to us was available to you when you started the character. If you had looked at that information before you created the character you could have spent that 2 months on a character you feel is more powerful, like the other bow types, for example. That's not to say you are wrong. AnimePower is the Race #1 for kamael on Blue and he is 37th on the server. The top Trickster is 56th. That does suggest kamaels in general are underpowered. But you could have seen that, too, before you started. The best thing to do, I think, is to take this as a lesson learned to research your character before you start, to prevent this from happening again. I'm sorry you had to learn the hard way. But maybe by speaking out here you have stopped someone else from making the same mistake.
Its not kamael but archers have playstyle that maybe is not for you. You are not supposed to stand and take damage. When mounted nobody can catch you.
You have no idea how to play that char then. Fear lands 100% on me (like any debuff but w/e, 80% resist hold and sleep still get sleep/stun first try, lol) and delay is around 6 seconds maybe. As for the Dark soul, you simply collect 98 souls pre-pvp and when you jump in get the last 2 soul and ggwp. Fact is that dmg output of other archers is made by them spamming 4 different skills while arba can do the same dmg with pushing down 1 button. It's useless that you speak about "same opportunities" in L2, it means you never play this game. Or any game at all. Wind riders got a dodge that lasts 40 seconds and which makes them unkillable with that 70% dodge rate, while DE got a useless reflect and TH a skill named "mirage" which is not even a "Mirage" anymore cause the effect has been removed. And yeah, they don't give a **** cause there's no **** to give. You have no idea how ur class work at all and you complain. And you still have to get to the point where you waste 10k euros to gear up, learn to play and then you lose to random garbage cause they drink 5000 melissa potions per pvp. GGWP.
Teach me please how to cast spells while riding or how to cast a spell while moving with an archer, teach me please that sacred playstyle. Help me pls, because im not understanding how my trickster is going to override the damage of the other archers while my skill is still 2nd class skill and everyone else has skills leveled up and upgraded to 3rd class. Help me please because i don't understand. Wait a minute, you're dagger... let me check the dagger in the wiki. Let me see, you have Backstab at lv 76 -6461 power Mortal blow /deadly blow at lv 76 - 7888power Deadly impulse at lv 76 - 6068 power. And bloodletting at lv 76 - 2427 power. Let me ask you, can you kill someone only using bloodletting? OFCOURSE YOU CANT. it doesnt hit hard enough you *****, so why the fnck are you saying that? So according to what you're saying. im the same than the other even having a skill with half of the power (knowing that skills doesnt have p.atk multiplier) are you reading your own words? The fact that the 3rd class has no new aggressive skills when you're A ******* DAMAGE DEALER is enough. and now you say that a skill with 3300 power will overcome a skill with 6600 damage that casts almost immediately. Drink some water dude because your brain is getting dry. By the way, you got deadly blow upgraded to 8390power at lvl 80. while my super awesome twinshot has 3500 power at lvl 80. you do almost 3x damage than me, just because the skill says so. I remember the day that i asked you some pvp questions, i regret. i can see that you only play with your eyes and not with your brain. is it that hard to imagine yourself hitting 3x less than what you're hitting right know and think... ¿is this fair when everyone else is having fun hitting 3x more than me? just because the skill says so. you must be really really stupid man. Everyone starts lvl 1, everyone has the same quests, everyone has the same class transfer lvl, each class has its own skill to kill/lvl up at the same level, all classes have the same opportunities, ALWAYS, IN EVERY GAME, SINCE THE FIRST GAME WAS CREATED. And everyone has skills for 3RD class transfer except the kamael, a**hole. Tell me how would you feel if they give you only the 3s stun at lvl 76? with no upgrade at all for your blows. imagine being lvl 80 hitting like you were 72. in addition imagine all mobs you kill to lvl up with a buff "very resistant to daggers" Would you like to play that way? at this point what im asking is stupid because i already know the answer, and everyone knows the answer you just keep talking nonsense cuz u r stuped, im not going to reply anymore... you said like 4 things and you were 4/4 wrong. go hide Feb 3, 2020 I couldn't talk to anybody since they were all afk. When i asked through discord the reason for the bow resistance they told me my class is one of the best archers for beginners that i will lvl up fast and kill everything and things will get better at lvl 76. I stood in line, always farming in low lvl areas to get stronger for higher lvl areas. always alert for REQUIEM, Free player. being killed afk, losing exp, it,was,a,*******,nightmare. almost 2 months of the same sht, now finally im 76 and i just cant stand this **** anymore. I need to farm like 800m adena to be full A-grade and i wont be able to, the weakest monsters are in plains of lizard and it takes 4 or 5 SkillsShots for me to kill a single monster. The guardian dies with 7 skills and it takes me down to 30% hp more than twice. I wont be able to play this char if they don't fix skills and that's what i will do. i just wont spend another 2 months leveling up another class to 76, hell no. the server wont miss me... i know, and if they don't fix the class... i wont miss the server either. i'm done with this sht
1st of all, you got some anger issues mate. 2nd You sound a bit like Sheldon Cooper I have a kamael archer alt who is mostly afk all the time, yes I agree that the skill bar looks too empty, and normal hits barely scratch the mobs with my C grade bow, but all it takes is a couple of twin shots, and you have to manage your hp pots or die but when the transformations kick in ( Which happens pretty often) there is nothing left to complain about IMO. You are either obsessed with skill description and numbers or there is something really wrong with your build. The whole server was complaining not so long ago about not getting mobs cause kamael archers take them all. Are they (we) all stupid then?
To be sure i understand the twin shot. For example the HE double shot hits for 7000 power and the twin shot has 3500. The 7k from double shot counts for both shots and the twin shot 3500k counts for 1 so its also 7k. Im wrong ? Does anyone know why they removed the crossbows ? Since the other 2 Kamaels still have the weapons. What i also not understand is how is the skill Death sting hitting for so low damage. (videos i watched) 13k power and hitting the same like the other skills but has double the power. I think even Lethal shots hits harder.
