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Kamael Archer is TRASH

Discussion in 'Archive 2.0' started by ChickenWing, Feb 2, 2020.

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Kamael rework

Poll closed Feb 9, 2020.
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  1. Copeland

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    Wow, haven't seen anyone cry so hard and be so bad at math and basic class research.
     
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  2. Scarecrow

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    get google chrome and you can auto translate
     
  3. Scarecrow

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    Ok so i tested the damage today with my 60 hawkeye and my 60 kamael archer. Same equipp same mob.

    Hawkeye hitting for 2.5k up to 3.3k (double shot count as 1 hit)
    Kamael hitting for 2.5k each shot so 5k damage.(Twin shot count as 2)
    Thats close to 2k more damage then the hawkeye....

    So just plz st** that they do less damage holy **** with your useless wall of text just mimimimimmi
    but hey you tested on lvl 40.....
     
  4. Thunderbuild

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    I have no idea if it is correct, but I believe the argument is that the kamael is stronger 1-75 (which is why they are so popular with farmers) but weaker from 76 on (which is why there aren't any high level kamael archers, at least on Blue). Your test confirms the first part. Perhaps if you have time, maybe you could test the second part by running the same test with toons after the lvl 76 class change and let us know the results.
     
  5. Numine

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    There is a complete misunderstanding about the kamael archer role
    it exp faster than any other possible toon. Period.
    On red server the tribunal russian clan, which by the way had already 6 months of gaming on silver ru essence server,
    went from lvl 1 to lvl 80 in 1 single week
    petcha did it faster
    the other classes managed to reach petcha in lvls after 1 month and petcha quitted after the 2nd week
    by now petcha could have been by far the highest in lvls on both servers, like lvl 88 or 89

    So the kamael archer lvls up faster than anybody else
    which should be its role

    pve wise don't go after red mobs
    now they aren't red anymore but if handled properly a kamael archer one shots everything
    pvp wise you have to spend a ton of money of your kamael archer because it's a dd
    and i mean A TON of real money

    now there are two possible ways
    the first and obvious one, for the most of us, build an army of kamael archers
    when you have some spare time log in on red server and look for two toons nick givi and sali
    every single day each of these toons buy lcoins for 500kk
    now how many kamael archers do you need to get 500kk in 1 single day?

    the second possible option, if you are a saudi arabian prince with 100 personal petroleum fields is to spend
    a ton of money on you kamael archer
    as someone pointed out one of the top players on both server is a kamael archer
    because of option n. 1.

    So everybody may understand
    tribunal clan
    first cloak +8 on both servers -> a ton of money
    first bop +12 on both servers -> a ton of money
    first agathion gemini +8 on both servers to compensate the fact of
    beeing made of paper -> a ton of money
    first hat +7 +3 str on both servers -> a ton of money
    first aden tali +8 on both servers -> a ton of money
    and all of this only in week #1

    Another consideration.
    In another topic someone pointed out how the support classes are in here OP broken
    that's because we didn't have the event, like on ru, where everybody got at least
    1.000 mana potions for free.
     
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  6. Scarecrow

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    im to lazy to make screenshots and post them, but i dont post anything if i had it not tested myself. I was also curious but the dps of the kamael is much higher.
     
  7. Numine

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    Well scare no, absolutely not
    Lineage 2 has always been a matter of
    levels -> gear
    the kamael archer levels up 2x or 3x faster than any other class
    the items i've listen were made by petcha on week #1
    imagine what kind of items denv may have on month #6

    Ofc the original poster thought hello i'm an arba so i'm supposed to be OP
    but the original poster forgot that he tried his arba completely naked compared to what a real trash
    arba moderate spender has.
     
  8. Leckter

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    Hello SK111 :D
     
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  9. Numine

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    Hello fanboy
     
  10. xHaseo

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    That's not why supports are OP. The MP pots might "help", maybe, vs bishop's debuffs. Otherwise supports are OP due to all their reworks.
    Prophet's debuffs lands 100%, prevent you from rebuff and decrease stats.
    Shillen elders' stigma is quite broken on effect.
    Elven elders' are probably the weakest due to 2 debuffs only, but still lot of WIT.
    Overlords and Warcryers with that 76+ weapon mastery can drain MPs as well as HP during pvp and pve, making them insanely OP. Not to mention all their buffs and debuffs.

    On top of that, remember that all supports got "switches" that increases one stat by a lot of % and decrease the other one. So either you wasted a lot of money to boost ur char, or else gl killing them.

    And i'll stop at supports cause summoners are just obscene. Warriors getting all skills that ignore p.def making tank's UDs worthless.

    KR devs are totally ****** up in the head, gotta say.
     
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  11. dorukasama

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    uhm....OK...after reading all this drama, a not realted question:

    Whats the best class and also the less $$ invested needed for a solo player that wana try and play Essence for, lets say, next 6 months? Just asking...
     
  12. Smajdalf

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    I see the problem in that kamael got dmg skill so few... (i made 76 3rd class and did not received boost on my dmg new dmg skill lvl is on 80lvl and then 85) so every 5 lvl new boost to dmg skill.. which other class got every lvl/other lvl.

    Also having ONE dmg skill and ONE debuff is boring gameplay.. just press F1 and every 20sec press F2