Daily PvP 25/4/2016

wrong, I can do that too.

 

If for "your skills" you meant "my" skills,before,i don't see how this can be related. Since i meant another thing with that "sengato would disagree"

Nono,you can,i saw lots complaining about stuffs,but they were 'golden players' complaining about 'golden players' or players asking "ehy,i've no idea how to play L2,what's the most broken class to play? ".

And for get an answer from someone with 30 messagges and with an account old 2 years..it still burn deep inside? I wonder!

 

I wonder what kind of pleasure decently geared people get by pvping seraph warriors in Parnassus. (Finally got some time to watch the video)

 

mitsa dont be so rude with ur clan members

 

Actually you are mistaken to think that "big boys" are only top geared ppl. In all big clans there are low geared ppl (well, maybe no so many in EN ). especially lately, with the new recruitment. Majority is mid-geared and only some are top geared, and they fight amongst each other anyway. Moreover, only in big clans you can get near stuff like gainak or lilith/anakim to have at least possibility to farm items. Also there are some top geared ppl who cant kill anything. Yes, in EN also.

With this setup you know its impossible to hit low dmg. There must have been something wrong, either no harmony, no selfbuff, no shots or simply didnt land crit (perks of STR build)

Careful. It's different in this update. Test

 

I did few test some weeks ago with a NG dagger vs B grade dagger,landing blows with both and damage was the same,maybe not even 100 damage difference. But p.atk was like 10 times higher...how should a BR which double my p.atk change my damage? It would have sense if there is a 'break-point' where the blow damage got a real hiiiiiigh boost...otherwise i can't see the difference with p.atk boost on blows

 

ur test is worse than innova tests

 

Right.To see how p.atk change my damage i'm suppose to test with a NG shaper vs a R99 PVP shaper +15 2 SA,crt dmg augment,300 elemental.

Feel free to enlight me how i should see the difference on p.atk damage with blows please. Coz i could feel the difference on auto-hits,yet nothing on blows. Enlight me HeeronV :3

 

Sadly, for once I do agree with Iron. Comparing 100+50000 power against 1000+50000 power seems a little bit... ridiculous. Read stabs, it's x THOUSAND power added to patk.

Put your hand on a no grade and then a +15 apo or w/e and compare (w/o shots to deny the bonus from shots) the damage.

Long story short : patk on dagger doesn't matter A LOT. BUT it DOES affect blow damage, and a R99+15 will do way more damage than a S+15 for example (w/o pvp and w/o sa ofc)

 

sadly

 

Eh eh eh

 

Yeah,+15 apo shaper. The day i'll get a +15 weapon you should not worry about p.atk.

Yet even with a Kelbim (like sickplow) p.atk is around 10/13k (with warrior),if you get BR,let's say...mhh...20/30k p.atk...so at that point you think damage will get from 50k to 60k? i think it will barely go up to 51k? 52k?

I heard about the "your damage get higher if your p.atk is closer to the p.atk of the skill" yet,not sure if it's true

So...i still think p.atk is useless for us ^^ if it's worth for people with +15 apo/pvp weapons,that's another story.

 

Guys where u go with this discussion? Stuff like that always summons "experts" who chip in with thier w/e opinions about class they dont play...
I mentioned to test dmg on rapso and without it. THATS IT. Leave weapon patk or w/e patk alone

 

i'm gonna do that sooner or later then