Experiment 45 Crafting Normal and Blessed items

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  1. Tully

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    Tully, Apr 10, 2013 | Last edited by a moderator: May 29, 2015
    tags: [god] [other game mechanics aspects]

    y u m i: what are you crafting? grappling hook?
    t u l l y: another cutter. have a look.
    y u m i: to tell the truth, i’m not impressed.
    wait… holy maphr, the cutter’s blessed!
    you’re kidding!
    t u l l y: nope.
    y u m i: no chance!
    t u l l y: why not? i’ve even crafted quite a lot.
    sometimes it’s usual, sometimes – blessed.
    the chance of both we need to test.


    the purpose of this experiment was to find out the chances of getting normal and blessed items through crafting, using recipe: unidentified amaranthine cutter (60%).

    1,714 attempts to craft amaranthine cutter were made in order to get 1,000 amaranthine cutters.

    {tr}{tr}{tr}{/tr}{/tr}{/tr}
    successful crafting1,00058.3%crafting failed71441.7%total attempts1,714100%
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    as a result of 1,000 successful attempts at crafting, the following items were obtained:

    {tr}{tr}{tr}{tr}{/tr}{/tr}{/tr}{/tr}
    [​IMG]unidentified amaranthine cutter54354,3%[​IMG] amaranthine cutter42042%[​IMG] blessed amaranthine cutter373,7%successful crafting1,000100%

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    {tr}{tr}{tr}{tr}{tr}{tr}{/tr}{/tr}{/tr}{/tr}{/tr}{/tr}
    [​IMG]unidentified amaranthine cutter 54331.7%[​IMG] amaranthine cutter42024.5%[​IMG] blessed amaranthine cutter372.1%crafting fail71441,7%successful crafting1,00058.3%total attempts1,714100%
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    the chances of getting a blessed item as compared to normal:

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    [​IMG] amaranthine cutter42092%[​IMG] blessed amaranthine cutter378%successful crafting of a normal or blessed item457100%
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    we identified the unidentified amaranthine cutters we had crafted and got the following:

    {tr}{tr}{tr}{tr}{/tr}{/tr}{/tr}{/tr}
    [​IMG]unidentified amaranthine cutter543100%[​IMG] bound amaranthine cutter51695%[​IMG] amaranthine cutter193,5%[​IMG] blessed amaranthine cutter81,5%
    account taken of the unidentified amaranthine cutters that we identified, the chances of getting normal/blessed/bound items were the following:

    {tr}{tr}{tr}{tr}{/tr}{/tr}{/tr}{/tr}
    successful crafting1000100%[​IMG]amaranthine cutter43943.9%[​IMG]blessed amaranthine cutter454.5%[​IMG]bound amaranthine cutter51651.6%
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    after the unidentified items were identified, the chance of getting a normal amaranthine cutter grew by 1.9%, while the chance of getting a blessed amaranthine cutter increased by 0.8%.

    considering the unidentified amaranthine cutters we identified, out of the total number of attempts at crafting we obtained:

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    [​IMG]bound amaranthine cutter51630.1%[​IMG]amaranthine cutter43925.6%[​IMG]blessed amaranthine cutter452.6%crafting fail71441,7%successful crafting1,00058.3%total attempts1714100%
    the results obtained after the items had been identified are also shown in the diagram below:

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    conclusion:

    1. the crafting success rate was 58.3 %, which is comparable with the success rate indicated in the recipe description (60%).

    2. if the crafting is successful, the chance of getting an unidentified item is about 10% higher than that of getting a normal/blessed item.

    3. the chance of getting a blessed item through crafting is 2,6%. thus, considering the fact that the cost of one attempt at crafting is sometimes equal to that of an unidentified item on the market (and in some cases the cost of a normal item), trying to obtain a blessed item through crafting hardly makes any sense.
     
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  2. tcetso

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    what recipe was used for the craft? for unidentified cutter?
     
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    they already mentioned in the conclusion that the 60% cutter recipe was used :)
     
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  4. Leckter

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    dunno what tcetso meant, but probably what i'll ask.

    to be clear, what recipe was used ? :
    recipe: unidentified amaranthine cutter (60%) ? or
    recipe: amaranthine cutter (60%) ?

    never really crafted in god, but getting blessed or standard through unidentified recipe would be new for me, and getting unidentified while using normal recipe would be strange...
     
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  5. DeepBlue

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    well one would normally assume that because of this:

    it would have been the amaranthine cutter 60% but i am double checking that and requesting that in future they be more clear about the recipe used, i will update as soon as i get confirmation.

    regards.
     
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    and we can stop assume after seeing this :p
    better know 100% what we talk about than "assuming" things. thank you for getting the info !
     
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    well the only thing that can explain getting blessed item from unidentified craft is that there has always been a chance to gain standard or blessed items since goddess of destruction

    and on a "quick" look through later patch notes i didnt see that they removed that particular chance but as i said it was a very "quick" look through xd

    im still waiting for the testing team to get back to me with confirmation though so we will have the answer soon :cool:
     
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