Core Daily Discussions Part 2 - Clans, PvP, Olympiad etc

anxiety we will ask u about playing healer with only 3-4 keys, we know that u are professinoal on it.

 

This man for president , each time he posts something , it's something useless. Exactly like presidents ! Follow Konra's advices !!


Now waiting for the haters that will say that I'm exactly the same. But it's ok I wanna be president So I do it on purpose !

 

Totally agree and the thing is dat L2store creates items from thin air + adding nonegzistant items... Noone needs to farm, fight for it. Playing game makes no more sense... Compare it with rmt(smone farmed items) is pointless. L2store and L2GOD was acceptable just in first year, with bounded items for newbies etc, that was real L2... mby a bit too easy, but for newbies was perfect = attracting a lot of new players.

 

At least there is some people that have full capacities to brain about the situation. I'll have to like Nyweris' post ><

 

God totally agrees with me *_*
I can die in peace now, thank you, GOD

 

Lectuna pls...

 

professional *

 

Atm there are maybe like 20-30x more items than classic will have ? Each of those items create bigger and bigger gap between players.
Pvp weapons/sets,talismans,brooches,shirts...
The more items you add to the game, the more you make items important, easy.
At least on classic there wont be such items so ppl wont be outgeared like now.

I guess that difference between average and top players wont be as big as now.
And if it's like old L2, skill > gear so still there will be a chance for ppl with lower stuff... coz atm no way.

Anyone who played in the past know that you can have fun and make things good if you know what to do, even without top zop mop endgame gear.

 

L2 god was the biggest "scheme" ever. First, they intruduced a practly 100% new lineage. New classes, new skills, new areas, new items, new setup of parties. It was a HUGE hype. Many ppl came back, and some left. The hype stayed for quite a long time, since many randoms/newbies still could get items, cuz camon, they were dropping. if u done fortuna many times u could do ur seraph set and etc. Be with a cp was perfect, u could hit 95 full r95 with 300 weapon. But, the server started it's hit. Started to low drop, low adena, with the excuse of "bot", cuz it's always better to nerf, then prevent. So l2store came, ppl coudln't farm right anymore, randoms started to see a bigger gap from top players even more. So, MORE l2store and ppl started to buy even more. Now we are like this. Can't farm properly and l2 store is your best friend or worst enemy.

 

Don't compare classic with GOD... It's just two different games... Like smone said, clasic pvp is: "f1+f2 & run forward+backwards= Enjoy your classic pvp guys... ryly epic gameplay after over9000h farming dat 60lvl...

 

F1+F2 and yul AoE whole cc here is better ?
Dunno how classic will be and if they will update chronicles but I feel like core is going down day by day.
Not mentionning that ridiculous delay on skills that we have for months Which ruins everything.
And for classic the point is to pvp as much as you farm. If you wait lvl 60 to start pvp ofc better dont play at all.

Anyway it should start soon so we ll see.

 

You guys are delusional who say "AOE and wipe whole CC". Archer HEROES do that after popping every single skill

 

And not all of them i only know 2 19th and vllm. And it was in arena zones vllm did it with every boost poped+grandeur+mass bullseye on their enemies, and all of them were regrouped near kelbim npc dont were splited , and 19th poped everything, killed much of them but not wiped whole cc. Archers are unbalanced no1 doubt it, but they will get nerfed just matter of time.

 

Yul are balanced #confirmed

 

Kobu and Harvey are correct. There are few archers who could do it, on all three sides i guess, but most of the rerolls doesn't even matter nearly as much as an average feoh would. Sometimes you see someone with a huge kill ratio on some less geared or bad coordinated people, while leaving important targets run around undisturbed and ultimately not helping at all with this amount of kills. Cause lets face it out of BA, RG or EN command channel there are people that dead or alive make some but not nearly as huge difference than other people, yes they get wiped by archers, but they were getting wiped by aoe before also, surviving 40 seconds more or 40 seconds less doesn't make so much of a difference.

 

Except if you look at frapses from your own group, the reason why you win mass pvps has nothing to do with killing "important targets".

 

If you kill important targets , those important targets can't kill your CC. It's simple thought. So killing important targets will always help to reach the victory !

 

I happen to play with my group and I know that unlike other people we do take and keep targets of actually strong people instead of aoe where the weakest targets are, rest is collateral and doesn't in any way shape or form change the outcome of the actual pvp. If you don't understand the difference between mindless aoe to see your name in blue and actually tracking important people to kill or disable them and if possible kill them straight after res then it's your problem, no mine.

EDIT: And if you look at troy group's frapses you'd notice also how they don't get carried away to get in blue, instead they do their job to a level of perfection. I personally was extremely impressed by the amount of discipline they show in mass pvp.

 

You indeed sound very clever, but sadly the truth remains that the "collateral" that you speak of is the biggest reason why you are winning the mass pvps.

It has nothing to do with "getting in blue". Nowadays most people don't get to play because of the ******ed gear/damage (given and received) and honestly, most of the top groups in this server only have to play at a mediocre level because it's simply enough.

Again, you can try to spin it around like your group is so good that you can walk on water or something, but honestly anyone can watch the movies and see it for what it is.

 

If you think that a guy who cant survive aoe skill for yul, not pinpoint, aoe, do make a lot of difference on the siegefield you're seriously delusional. Stacked yul on aoe does 5-15k on those stacked people who actually win you the mass pvp. The others are responsible for less than 10% of the overall damage anyway. Yes sure they draw some attention and they're useful for a lot of reasons but not to the extent you think. Because (and i don't want to offend anyone I was one for long time) we lack good meatshields on Core in general, people who realize their gear is low and know how to actually play with bad gear to be useful.