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Old School Raids (Freya, Tezza, Zaken)

Discussion in 'Archive 2.0' started by Cryptowitch, Aug 17, 2017.

  1. Cryptowitch

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    Hi!

    I just love doing Freya and Zaken. I know its weird, but I love doing them. HOWEVER, I would like to do Freya in extreme mode and also Frintezza. Maybe I would also like to try the other modes of Zaken, to see how they are.

    So I am wondering if there are any other people out there like me, or if there is a group of people already doing this where I could join.

    Why do this?

    First of all for exploring these raids. I have never done Frintezza and I did Freya Extreme only once. I feel I am missing something of the game, not knowing these raids well. Secondly, I would love to regularly farm these, maybe one day they drop something nice, like the Sword from Freya Extreme :p.

    I currently have a Wynn dual 87 level that is suitable (my main Aeore 94 is already too high), but my plan is to have 3 more chars available at these levels.

    So, does anyone else want to do these raids? For the fun and the loot?
     
  2. cmec1

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    freya extreme and frinteza are hard, u need to be prepared group to farm it, and have apropriate gear to do it succesfully
    zaken night time (low one) requires 56 ppl to enter
     
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  3. Cryptowitch

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    When you say appropriate gear, you mean the top R armor (twilight) with full element resistance? And Apocalypse weapons 300?

    I remember Freya Extreme was my first raid few minutes after awakening :D in the new post GoD l2. The clan leader needed a healer... but none of us was prepared. I am not so sure if it was the gear or the fact that nobody knew tactics about when to use the core... You don't use it when she starts casting the spell, you use it halfway through (at 50% or even at 75% of the casting bar) so that it lasts. I am quite confident that if people understand exactly when to use cores, it can be done. Of course element resistance and 300 weapons would be very helpful.
    Aug 18, 2017
    Anyway, I would be prepared to invest in the gear to do these raids. I wanna do them :p .
     
  4. cmec1

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    i mean twilight+3 full atri and apo +4 300 will not work there (well maybe it will if u go 35ppl) to make 5 partys for instances like that is almost impossible, which means u need to go in lower amount of active ppl which increases gear requirements exponentially, teza has insane regeneration and if no dmg the hp doesnt even move more than 1mm


    at epic freya before was able to enter ppl way over 90 (99-100 didnt get curse) that helped alot with killing tons of minions flooding, now its 90 max to enter, and that means u need good gear to be on par with ppl of 99 or all will be killing minions not raid itself because it gonna take too long to kill them
     
  5. Cryptowitch

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    So the only way to do these raids is with r99 runes? If its to have 2 parties only? Are you saying that?
     
  6. cmec1

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    im telling if u go 2 partys u need tauti weapons(and 4 titans to use them) rings and etc to boost dmg as much as possible (some of those with 7s and etc etc) characters deleveled, and so on
    ppl who farm those make it on boxes and transfers majority of gear to make it faster (belts, jewels, brooches if have lv5-6) sets dont rly matter that much, just equip to boost dmg as much as possible

    last time we tried teza we were 4 titans with tauti, 5 sumoner boxes with apo retris 300atri, isses, sos, cw, healer just for lumi and some debuff to ease hp regening
    and even in that setup it took 20mins to kill boss itself not to mention all that waiting, videos, first-second stage and etc

    3 partys and they not <90 lvl like now limit is
     
  7. St0ne

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    Cmec1 when it was exactly u tried that tezza?!
    I know it supposed to be changed,but not as much s ure saying.
    I think u can still do it easly with proper gear and one titan and 1pt of proper classes?
    Also movies and waiting it self was removed.
    If I remember correctly it has only two stages now.
    And I was doin it under 10mins.
    Obviously at Ramona it may be a diffrent story with gearing.
    Low lvl Zaken is simply no worth time/reward.
    For e.freya u may need 95lv pple 2pts, all active,and 300attri in weps as a must.
     
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  8. MrScubba

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    Unfortunately the expected profit does not really worth the invested time / efforts.

    Low level Zaken (daytime) is same as the higher level - few players, regular gear and buffs can do it easily. Minimal reward.
    Low level Zaken (nighttime) requires the 8 parties on CC to enter - very high chance (80%?) to standard earring drop. Less than 1m/char profit.
    High level Zaken could be a viable option, you can go in, do it quick, you can get useful rewards (a drop can worth like 20m, BRES scrolls, hat) and you can do on countless chars. I would not say it is a great entertainment but once in a while it can be enjoyable especially if you go with friends or group.

    Freya normal is just like the previous Zaken - easy to do with regular gear, but takes much longer. Still recommended for players who plan longterm and desperately need adena.

    Freya Hard - to be completely honest haven t tried for years. That requires some gear and coordination - if you don t have proper damage you run out of cores and that makes it messy. Personally, I do not think it is anyhow more fun or profitable than normal one, but much more efforts.

    Frintezza is a bit trickier. There is potentially good drop (the weapons can be around 300kk, bottle 1b, some elcyum) but you need preparations and I would not go with random groups.
    I am not sure when cmec tried it last time, but some of our groups were farming it lately.
    Either you need a minimum or 2 parties with TW/Apo DDs with full attri (still will take really long) or you need perfect coordination and proper classes. 1 titan can solo it, assuming it has a decent blunt weap (decent as R grade Tauti, Improved Shadow or PvE) with SoS, CW, rhapsos etc, but it is better with more DDs of the same gear tier. Keep in mind you need 2 parties to enter anyway.
    Might be fun and challenge few times, but only recommended with good friends, group and with voice communication.

    Tbh the best way to go for it / them is to find a clan with the same explorer / adventurer attitude and try to organize something yourself. But prepare, you might get disappointed.
     
  9. mYzor

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    There's someone that did " solo " tezza on ramona.
    Seems to take a long time to do it
     
  10. cmec1

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    did it like 3-4 months ago
    waiting i ment: to log boxes and bring them all near npc (takes some time u know, to transfer gears and so on), then inside u kill mobs +statue, then again wave of mobs, then u got to mirrors stand there for 2-3min (it wasnt removed), kill those, and then raid itself ~15-20min (p.s. we had +8 sets, tauti weps, sos x2, cw, sumoner boxes, rings, only no brooches since we just made a test to see if it drops anything and we too poor for lv5 ruby's/opals)


    p.s. e freya has limit of 90lvl max now i think that makes it dificult
     
  11. zauliuz

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    frint is just wasting of time. with cp we tried to do that instance few times in this chronicle. with titans + sos + cw and some iss with BR was fast enough, around 15min whole instance, but drops was the reason why we wont go there anymore... better to do balok or octavis. faster and higher profit.
    drops from 3x tezza:
    3 vorpal parts
    7 spirit stones
    and overall ~20 brez/bsoe
    so just wasting of time. + need 14 peoples cc..
     
  12. St0ne

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    Pple shouldnt be a problem since most players use PA. So u basicly need 1 active pt.+boxes of each.
    Also I still think it isnt that bad.
    Its just 85lv boss ,so u rly can farm it like crazy unlike high lvl bosses were u need to lvlup high lv toons. Besides u still have a chance for bottle which brings best profit of all farmable bosses.(except tauti)
    Since u can transfer 90%of gearing u can farm it as many times as u like.
     
  13. Cryptowitch

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    Woho. We do Freya normal (and Zaken) on every available cooldown. Freya normal is ridiculously easy (to the point no healer is necessary) and very fast. Doesn't take much longer than Zaken. Of course we do it for the cloak quests and it can drop some neat things sometimes.



    There is always the quest that gives you the permanent core. It has some cool down but you can't run out of cores.


    Of course I am talking about 7 ppl for example who have some basic social and language skills and can coordinate :p .
    Aug 18, 2017
    I also noticed that the articles on the Freya instances have been removed from the wiki. No way to see the drops now, I wanted to link to the sword.
     
  14. MrScubba

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    I meant by much longer, that a zaken with friends take 3 mins, while Freya takes 12 which is 4x longer! :)


    Inside the instance there is limited amount of people, let s say 2 parties.
    Everyone has a core (14 cores inside).
    The reuse of the cores is 20 mins.

    So when the huge AoE skill is used approx every half min, you group can hold max 10 mins with celes and UDs inside. Logically, the boss should die before you 'run out of cores', that is why the gear is needed.

    Freya
    Not sure which sword you mean, Freya has a cool staff, the dream of female witches!
     
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  15. Cryptowitch

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    If the wiki article would be working we could see the sword :/ https://l2wiki.com/Freya_(improved)
    Aug 19, 2017
    Ok I found it from the internet archives. The sword I was talking about is the Archangel Sword https://l2wiki.com/Archangel_Sword
    Aug 19, 2017
    Anyone who wants to attempt Freya, so that we can prove everyone that it can be done!?

    I am waiting for replies from brave warriors!
     
  16. akaaWins

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    Be happy doing these raids because next update s80 drops will be gone xD

    Right now zaken/freya are less than 20 mins raids easy to do in 1 pt, even if u manage to box 7 chars u would do that.

    tezza needs minimum of 2 parties to enter, with CW, SOS and 6-7 wynns with apo its really quick raid. First 2 rooms wynn aoe clears pretty quick from mobs. In boss room you gotta kill 4 mirrors in corners pretty quick but with wynns its really easy if u use 2 wynns per mirror. Firdt stage of halisha just attack him anywhere you want. When he grows and 2nd stage starts just go as close to the frintezza piano as you can (theres a gap near piano) and thats it - maximum of 30 mins if you do it in 3-4 ppl and less than 20 if u do it in 7 ppl.

    About drops - out of 25-30 tezza kills 8 necks, 2 bottles, lot of s80 armor parts, about 10 s80 weaps.