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100 Bilion PVP Char?

Discussion in 'Archive 2.0' started by Dergand, Sep 22, 2017.

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  1. StabStar

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    Heya peps,

    im 101 WR, +10 r95 La Set,+12 r95 DD, low budget Epics ( aq soul,octavis warri ring, Frint soul, Istina earr., 40% stun earr)
    Ruby 3, diamond 3
    and 50b cash.
    actually im in a pve clan, but would like to join a pvp clan.
    im scared to push my cash in the wr, coz i dont think it would be enough for a dagger in pvp.
    i am able to learn other classes (have some alts on 99 (Duelist,Archer,Maestro,Evi,Bish,Wynn,PP,DA) coz rerolled alot, so i have all the adena, coz i didnt invested money for stuff i coudnt trade, coz i started another then...)
    Finally im tired of rerolls, and i look for fun in pvp...is there any class thats worth with my budget to play if i lf pvp? (last reroll possible)
    im not think i could become a pvp god with this gear/money, just lf for some fun on sieges,oly and may in open pvp, last not again top pvp player for sure.

    any advices?
     
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  2. Padj1l

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    Should be more than enough to play tank/iss/heal in pvp and have fun in a mid clan, if you those invest 100b. For a damage dealer it's probably harder, but i'm guessing it's still not too bad, lots of good geared players left mid clans recently so the situation is probably easier than 4 month ago. You won't be one of the strongest players but it should be fine.

    For top clans, as a damage dealer don't think about it, as a support it's possible. You'll get 1 hit by most people on skill but if you play smart you can do your job i believe. My cp for example would accept an Iss with 100b gear x)
    Oly as a support with this gear will be terrible however.
     
  3. StabStar

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    hmm,so may its more about find the right clan...at least i like my dagger (dual iss lvl 100)...
    so archer or nuker with my budget wouldnt be an improvement with my money/gear? at least dagger/archer can use kelbim weapons, what in my eyes is a solid mid grade pvp weapon or?

    i guess its right that their is no 100b king class, but what would be most worth? dagger,archer or nuker?
     
  4. St0ne

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    May I ask why supports,especially healr,requires less adena than dd?!
    Imo its not,
    But I gladly hear another opinion.
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    Only massive diffrence can be a weps price tag,but if we think to play oly on heal its still need nice wep.
     
  5. Preslav

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    Obviously damage dealers would need everything support needs + better weapon, offensive jewels and brooches, no? If you bring olympiad to the table, sure, healer also needs, but even if he cant kill too fast, he is not as ineffective as a dd without any damage.
     
  6. St0ne

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    We r talking about heal and dd items not a role of it.
    I know weps and ruby vs obsi is a diffrence ,but other than that?
    Also as far as dd can manage in weaker armor an healer cant.
     
  7. Padj1l

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    Well it's exactly as preslav said, as a dd you need both offense and defense, as a supportyou need only one. You can run as a supportwith apocalypse weapon, no ruby/saph, no opal, no amethyst, no red/blue cat's eye, you can neglect on longing/desire, enchant skills are not so vital as having +20 dmg skills, you can run with CON dyes that are worth almost nothing, etc etc. So yes, you can pvp with a support for much less money it's pretty easy to undertand.As a healer in olympiad you won't do anything unless you're fully stacked so I don't think it's relevant.
    I'm running in TH with approx 100b gear ( when i don't borrow from my slacking cp members) and it's fine as a healer, as a dd i would be completely useless.

    Now on topic @Dergand i'm no expert for damge dealers, I would say maybe mage is the most cost efficient now because you can have lower defense thanks to mana barrier and focus on damage items, but maybe i'm wrong.
     
  8. StabStar

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    Think iss should be easy lvl up with duo/trio kartias, kama and so, also my gf plays a mid geared titan...

    on other hand, im not sure if it is that funny on siege run around like a headless chicken :D
    So if it comes down to dds, i guess feoh and archer may on top coz they are range dds...that mages may need lil less def investment makes sense to me, so pick necro coz the pet (if it still transfer pain)?
    How about pve compared nuker to archer? i guess on archer elf or delf is the way to go...how about nukers?
     
  9. Padj1l

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    Go stormscreamer it's the best, necro is **** now. You'll be much tankier with mana barrier than transfer pain. Mages are very good in pve, i'd say better than archer.
     
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  10. St0ne

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    Sry,but as a healr cant agree with ur arguments.
    Imo amount of adena is quite simillar.
    The fact that DDs got that much dmg boosts is only a game mechanics,but imagine a situation in times where they werent here?
    Forget brooches. Simple as that.
    And wep is relevant also as heal u must have an HP,so pvp pve wep is also a must.
    Im NOT talking about doing so-so in pt while pvp,Im talking about keeping myslef and pt alive during mass pvp.
     
  11. Skizzo

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    DD: +12 pvp weapon 3sa = 150b atl.
    Healer: Pve Weapon 3sa = 65B atl.

    No 3sa on weapon? 100b(pvp +12 2 sa) vs 15b( pve 2 sa).

    DD need like 30b+ than healer for brooches (talking only about lvl 4)
    You can't do pvp on top clan without brooches, Simple as that.
     
  12. St0ne

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    So basicly we r down to brooches again and their insane prices.
    As for weps 12+ Im pretty sure that every,ambitious, healer there would like to have that kick *** m.atk.
    So again lets forget brooches,is the amount of money that diffrent heal vs dd?
     
  13. Eyon00

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    Yes bro it is not even close, being a mediocre healer is useful but being a mediocre dd does nothing in end game situation.
     
  14. Padj1l

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    What you don't seem to get St0ne is that we're not comparing stacked healer and stacked dd, because the OP is nowhere near stacked, we're comparing useful healer and useful dd and what's needed for it. I've given several examples on my previous posts. Anyway this is off topic as he said he's gonna go for a dd anyway.
     
  15. Preslav

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    First I think we are not talking hypothetically in some alternative universe, we are discussing about current situation. Forget brooches? That's like 75%+ or so of the items in terms of value. Weapon healing on pvp is affected from matk, but it's not that related as the dd's damage output from oe difference. Also healer dont need blessed valakas, can skip lindvior, ring of truth seeker could be nice but dd gains more from it, perhaps we might forget those also. So - brooches, weapon, jewels. Not so many things have left
     
  16. St0ne

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    Best example might be our "classic" server ,so u rly dont need to be all sarcastic sir.
    Secondly I never stated healer = dd.
    Thridly,Im just a bit of tired when pple saying that supports r so cheap.
    Thats all.
    Chill.
     
  17. idevvv

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    WR is now pretty much best dagger in game and u should play what u liked most. IF u sell that r95 armor u can buy +8 pvp light armor +- ..Why not? That will be pretty much good .If u asking ppl what is best thats like 100 ppl 100 arguments what is better..Otherwise if u dont know what to play u are lost. Daggers are good in oly and pvp but they are meelle dmg.. If u like shooting and making dmg from distance go for feoh/archer..But every chars have some pros/cons vs other chars ..There is no top pvp fun char cuz nerfs are coming every update. IF u like supporting ppl nice char is healer even u are nonstop in enemy targets ,if u like standing long good way is to go tank or tyrr and max HP .So there is no best answer and vs top dds with ruby/sapph 6 u will be anyway with every char licking floor even with pvp set.
     
  18. SnoWyz

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    GH > WR in this update.
     
  19. idevvv

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    Why u think snowyz? :D everything depends on gear,hands and gamestyle. Not true that GH is better than other dagger classes.
     
  20. Naito

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    GH is better, end of story...
     
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