Experiment 177 Skill Critical Rate on Yul follow-up

Palkah · Oct 31, 2018

SnoWyz said: ↑

Basicly with other stuff, is possible to go 100% crit rate?
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Yup, as both the table and calculator show, I did get a 100%, and it is possible to get it with Dragon Weapon 1/2 and full skills on pretty much any archer class with high enough DEX

Hax · Nov 8, 2018

Palkah said: ↑

I've finally got my PTS access back and retested everything for high values of DEX (110), with 1000 hits in each scenario:

With 110 DEX + passive I got ~38% crit rate
With 110 DEX + passive + 10% AP Skill Crit Rate I got 42.6%
With 110 DEX + passive + 10% AP + PoM I got 53.6%
All of the above are well within the statistical error so no red alerts there

So then I thought "hey, maybe you were testing with Pinpoint, so I'll try that one too. maybe it has some extra bonus for rate". Took me ages with that one due to high cooldown.
With 110 DEX + passive + Pinpoint Shot instead I got 39.2% Skill Crit Rate, so within the error margin too, meaning it has no extra bonus

So lastly I checked the Focus +20 on Quick Shot:
With 110 DEX + passive + Quick Shot +20 Focus I got 47%. Which means that enchant bonus is multiplying everything instead of being added to base SCR, exactly as I said before.
Again, within margin of error.

So:
1. My tests were correct
2. I've rechecked every item, buff, and passive I had to make sure the results presented are for the items I claim they are.
3. Your different values are due to one or some of these:
a) level difference between characters
b) low number of hits (keep in mind that after retest some data points were confirmed with 1500 hits already)
c) you have an effect which you forget about while testing (AP, some SA) which adds to your value of SCR
d) invalid way of counting the crits
e) the way this game's RNG system works
f) using a skill enchanted to ++Focus without noticing it
g) having an item/buff that has a hidden effect of extra SCR
h) using skills that get reset via Skill Mastery, or multiple skills instead of one***
i) some other factor we are unaware of that gets eliminated in my test environment but not on Live

*** - I've noticed that if you perform actions in a small timeframe (so casting a skill two-three times with Skill Mastery, or two separate skills one after another) they often get the same RNG result, meaning they both crit etc. This happens due to RNG seed not 'resetting' fast enough, assuming it's even based on time.

That's all I can think of.
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doesnt convince me there must be smth either missing or changed with this update

Zeitgeist · Nov 15, 2018

Hi,
still waiting for it

Now the yuls archive miss the info about the same gain turned to power.
STR dyes
skill: break/power enchant
SA: skill damage
AUGMENT: skill damage
etc
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Could you?
And coult you write the exact formula of damage calcuation?

Regards,

TheDeathAngel · Nov 21, 2018

I revisited my tests and I got much better skill crit rate than here described. 67% on a setup where your calculator says 42%.

Palkah · Nov 21, 2018

TheDeathAngel said: ↑

I revisited my tests and I got much better skill crit rate than here described. 67% on a setup where your calculator says 42%.
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As said before, it simply must mean that one of the passives/items gives extra Skill Crit Rate (that's missing from description or we simply don't notice it in description), since I've retried and retried and I've always reached the calculator results +-4% with the setups mentioned

asdefit · Apr 7, 2020

I know that this topic is old but I didn't find another one of this style.
any modern and active website with the damage test formulas?
thanks in advance.

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