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Is the iss duty to br healer ?

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  1. SirYuky

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    so , i got a problem , first i know losing some xp ****s , it really does , but come on , i count all heals deads who were with me in inst from today , were 12 deads that mean 12 br that mean ~ 11 mil /day , cause they die alot each day +/- 10 deaths /day . some of them forgot to salva/some die fortuna/other istinia/some get war in prison or die by mobs/and they die at kartia also ofc :) , they got ***** by repti or die at tere etc ...

    most of the times i use br ( ofc they never get my br or adena back) , but i'm out of adena lately and i saw that i spend more adena that i make so i decided to use my angel ress that gives now 50% xp back . and you should heard the healers omg omg i lost xp noob iss , sdasxasxas xasxas , screming like a baboon .

    so what should i do , is my job to br them ?
     
  2. Ronove

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    if you have brez, you can use them. is it your job to do this ? no, but someone has to do it, and 80% of people just don't care.
    if you don't have brez, dont ress unless they specifically say its ok to use iss ress.
    if the party wipes maybe the people in that party will take more care to have brez, or the healer to not fail (if he/she did).
     
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  3. Zebedin

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    nope, good healer rarely die in pvm. if he die like a garbage player just turn to stone or celestial and gtfo from there

    healer can die once per 1hour due to hes salvation, its more than enough !
    good healer always safe salavtion on fortuna baylor and istina

    if you want to continue instance you can rez him, no matter who is it cuz yuo(6 members)
    choose to play with trash player

    and if you really want to rez ppls, make brez agument in c grade :p
     
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  4. Alarielle

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    it's the duty of the party, not only the iss.

    healers shouldn't usualy die in pve but it can happen.

    for players like zebedin, who like to call other players trash i carry some normal shop rez scrolls, all healers must carry them in case of ******** players in party.
     
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    thread moved to appropriate section as this is more of a discussion then a simple question.
     
  6. Olympian

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    well, once i ressed a healer 95+ and he started yelling at me ;d after that, i bought some bress, but its so expensive to carry on many scrolls and resurrect every dead healer. after my cp reached 99lvl, i stopped using bress, and everytime i go somewhere with not cp members, i'm telling healer that i don't have bress, and if he wants, he can give me 1 :)
    so the answer to your question is no. if you want to avoid some random rage, just try to find cp. and the next time when healer will fall down and call you idiot etc., tell him its not your job to resurrect every handless healer in this server, if he can't manage with skills - reroll to any damage dealer ^^
     
  7. khaot

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    olympian: maybe u try play with healer, then post anyrhing about it.ppls who talk about healers how they havent brain wtc... and this ppls never played it, its really funny.its not about healers only, but about party.
    bress should be use all the time.
     
  8. dafernandes

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    i guess i will start to rez with rez scroll from grocer every time and iss dies because lets be honest, every iss that dies ever even in pvp is trash.
     
  9. Zebedin

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    in perfect world, healer know mechanics of the game, most of the time has heavy 120 set defense option, duals or shield + buster with 2sa and know what is pvp and pvp heal but it wont happen :p

    game gave you a skill that allows you to die once per hour, if you die more than this its your fkin problem
    i always carry 2 brez with me and i ask for trade me if i fail


    on the begining was realy hard, i feel sorry for every fresh awaken healer cause i dont get those time as a good stage in game, this game is hard, always was
    even now i can be 2 shoted with soh mob or insta jib in gf lethal

    you always shoult try to focus, look around what hapen and what can i do
    dont be afraid to use sleep push attack speed degen, you have allso something to defend yourself
     
  10. Hanta

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    ofc its not your job . its every pt members job . your job is to remind them that .
     
  11. Olympian

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    my dualclass is healer 95 :( and read my post again, did i said do not use bress? i just said, it is not iss job to ress, as some people mentioned before, all party should do it. so before using "**** random rage" and posting smth, read it twice.
     
  12. SirYuky

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    most of the time they die because tank lose agro , but hey , if they give br back i'm ok to br, but they don't ...

    lf iss angel ress 100% :)
     
  13. Shatten

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    i am healer, is my first time with this class. i've always thought that the "bres" should be used only to resurrect the healer. in low level no problem, but high level, recover only 40% of the exp is painful.
     
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  14. Sweetnight

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    the problem here is that the server as it is still only 1 year old, doesn't have a lot of money. economy is still weak and the blessed scrolls of resurrection are too expensive for the money enchanters are making (one day for enchanter is 10 k ssr, i'm crafting them myself but it is still a lot of money). the op is right, that if a healer doesn't give back the bres, it is a pain to be his bresser. due to the party is expecting faster casters to res the healers asap, they expect isses to do so, but guys... this is including and feohs, so not only isses are ressing fast. and there are some newbie healers there, who are dying way too much. usually i'm wearing 1 bres in me but it would be nice, if healers are giving it back. we are not billioners you know :)
     
  15. Ronove

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    you're right on all points except one, all classes cast brez at the same speed (1s cast).

    healers should accept responsibility when they die, and give back brez to the people who used it on them. however, again, as sometimes people in a party won't care to brez healers, some healers won't care to compensate... one way to do it is to ask for trade of brez to use it, but you risk your party getting wipe in that time, it's your decision.
     
  16. RedWind

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    brez -> healer

    iss res -> only for noobs, wars :]
    and 00c[00b] in all cases ;)
     
  17. samariedas

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    till 92lvl, i ressed healers, and other players with angelic, becouse exping at theese levels is easy. later on, angelic in my skillbar was changed by bress. but i don't use it on everyone. just sometimes 1-2 times per day. if i see, that i am running low of bress, i say "no bress", and someone else resses healer. i/m always saveing 3 bress for unexpected situations, healer got dc, while i'm dead, or i die during pvp, or to ress clanmate.
     
  18. Inverse

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    last 3 times i was ressed, people did not accept bres in return :confused::rolleyes:
     
  19. ginaki7

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    well i was healer on ncwest and i can say that you mostly will die at lvl 85-87 a lot and in kartia when zelaka target the low lvl :p after 88 i didnt had that much trouble with deaths...my husband was tank and always had b rez on him cause some dont brez me or they dont want.but i hardly saw healers die after 88 :/ if they keep distance from the aoe range of mobs and they run when mob or spez chase them or mobs in tuna then they will most likely not die :) dont forget they have apart from salvation celestial and crystal regen to do when one boss is on them :) so i just dont believe that pt will need so many brez after 88 and more after 90...at least i rearly died as healer.now as rogue i die a lot on low lvl :p but yet again you are not obliged to use b rez cause healer didnt kept safe distance or forgot salvation or didnt use cele or crystal regen....
     
  20. Sweetnight

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    looks like you stopped playing before 97. soh was the place i was dying most. but eh well we were going with 2 healers there anyway because of the pvp. but you can't compare the economy on the ncwest where bots are making the money with economy here. 800 k for a bres are a lot of money here, comparing to naia for example, where this is nothing.
     
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