Anyone making statistics about jewelry?

Hi!

I opened this topic to see if anyone has statistics about perfecting the brooches with "discounted" jewelry boxes we may buy. I had 200 box, which is not a small invesment on crew holidays (well, maybe some will troll me that it is nothing for him, her, daddy's purse). From that 200 box I got practically nothing. Really. I failed ALL lv3 tries, and i had not one.

You may say that "wtf u expected, it is pay to win" etc. It is, yes. But after 13-16 lv1 fails in rows it is way over abnormal "chance". Ofc i decided that for the future sooner pacman investments not on innova, but, lets see how lucky you guys out there.

Pls tell here who and how many boxes. And how my at least lv3, etc. (btw fun fact, from 200 box i got ZERO from red cat new thingie, which is extra strange "random").

Lets say, can anyone experienced in marketing or pr or else prove that this "fullfail" rate is it ok on the cashier side? I mean at first income increases as ppl tries hard to get something, but maybe the downward effect on ppl investing intents can have harder effect (a.k.a. less income in total than have a fair rate).

I have no problem if i am encouraged to invest on my hobby. Nope. But i think this mechanism on success rates maybe kill my invests.

Pls no trolling, just talk. In hope some, if not all, but some may get trought to innova too.

 

In this event i only gambled with 5 red cat's eye boxes of which all succeeded and gave me a level 3 red cat.

edit:I remembered also that i tried to make a "chain reaction" with leftover rubies 1 2 and 3 that i had and failing wasting me 500kk+-.

 

Damn, i forgot my gamble on those. Yes, for me too, they gave me lv3 red cat. But as i got zerom from the boxes itself, i think it was "artificial success". so, i took it out from the pool itself.

 

1st time i made ruby lv3 almost w/o fails. just from 5 boxes.
2nd and 3rd try in this event was 10-15 boxes to make lv3.
and lv4 still 0/2

 

I want back "top statues" to see adena usage

 

100 opal boxes
10 lvl 3
3 lvl 4
0 lvl 5
Do not try to make some statics, is pure random.

 

Not just pure random, it's really a very low chance. Statistics would probably prove that. One of friends also failed many diamonds just trying to get them to level 2 (the same happened when he was upgrading his seed talisman). You can burn through adena in L2 pretty fast if you decide not to save it up and buy "lucky" 5% items instead of 100% items.

 

The point is in normal life a shop close fast with wrong pricing. And remembering the old days when even 2 eu servers existed, core was HIGH on traffic, i think wrong pricing is here. Bad rate shows less profit than good rate (i DONT qq for 100% max jewel. but 12+ fail in compund and not even once in a life time, is fail, not success). i think i would sooner buy vita replenish than jewels once more. for sure...

And i am sad we see no respons from gms about this topic. We see sooner closed topic cos of questions or bad languages

 

That's the secret of Casinos. From time to time, you make people win, even if a little. Because they'll play -and lose- the little they just won anyway. But you're not giving them money, you're giving them hope

You can always make stats on random, that's what the law of large numbers is made for. But you'll need a big enough sample for that.
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Have 21st century recorded his 2964 compound sessions ?

 

From what I have seens myself you need around x10 level 1 boxes in order to make a lvl 3 jewel
Around x5 lvl 3 jewels in order to make a lvl 4 and x10 level 4 in order to make a lvl 5, so that makes around x500 level 1 boxes to make a level 5 most probably

 

620 Ruby Boxes
2nd stage = 260
3rd stage = 60
4th stage = 18
5th stage = 2

Well i spend like 62b. One ruby sold for 75b. Secound one i keep. So im on Profit anyway. Goodluck.

 

i could afford such amount of invest in 1 pack. 60+b is like skyhigh for me. But it is nice to see numbers for such, as it is a lot closer to "large numbers" than i can afford from irl money. Maybe i will try to make better jewel only from farming. Well, i think i will have lv5 ruby before server close D Rnika, when did u bought and tried these 620 ruby?

@Seivlas, thought about casinos is right, i only doubt it is same here that in a casino u cant see fail-runs those amounts we have. So I will never go to korean casinos maybe 10+ fail on lv2 jewel in a row seems a lot less chance than black or white on roulette. Especially it is not heared from 1 person only but more than 3 even i know personally.

 

From what I remember, is something like this:

lv 4 to lv 5: 10%
lv 3 to lv 4: 15% or something

And normally takes around 50-90 boxes to make a lv 4.

That's in my experience anyway..

 

Made lvl4 ruby and lvl3 ruby (for sale) with total 32 boxes

 

I think you must consider youself extra lucky ,)

 

Yes, i thought so too BTW there is one person i clan who did lvl 5 in just 50 boxes, but it was not ruby, and cant remmember witch exactly

 

well, other ppl spent 1300 boxes and didn't get a level 5..

 

the problem is the spread of the results. way too wide. 50 vs 1300. it is rather nonsense

 

Thats why i told you that is not even worth to make static, its totally rng. If u have luck you make it if not, keep trying.
I know people who tryed 500 boxes and ended with 1 lvl 1, 1 lvl 2, 1 lvl3, 1 lvl 4, he bougth 1 chest and he made 5. Its pure random

 

He shoudl've been pissed as ****, HAHA